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From: "Mattias Rönnblom" <hofors@lysator.liu.se>
To: Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org>,
	Tyler Retzlaff <roretzla@linux.microsoft.com>
Cc: "Morten Brørup" <mb@smartsharesystems.com>, dev@dpdk.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v9 1/8] eal: generic 64 bit counter
Date: Sun, 26 May 2024 16:46:47 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <c4408e98-487b-48ba-ba7b-e802ea6436d2@lysator.liu.se> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240522125153.08e612f1@hermes.local>

On 2024-05-22 21:51, Stephen Hemminger wrote:
> On Wed, 22 May 2024 12:01:12 -0700
> Tyler Retzlaff <roretzla@linux.microsoft.com> wrote:
> 
>> On Wed, May 22, 2024 at 07:57:01PM +0200, Morten Brørup wrote:
>>>> From: Stephen Hemminger [mailto:stephen@networkplumber.org]
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, 22 May 2024 17.38
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, 22 May 2024 10:31:39 +0200
>>>> Morten Brørup <mb@smartsharesystems.com> wrote:
>>>>    
>>>>>> +/* On 32 bit platform, need to use atomic to avoid load/store
>>>> tearing */
>>>>>> +typedef RTE_ATOMIC(uint64_t) rte_counter64_t;
>>>>>
>>>>> As shown by Godbolt experiments discussed in a previous thread [2],
>>>> non-tearing 64 bit counters can be implemented without using atomic
>>>> instructions on all 32 bit architectures supported by DPDK. So we should
>>>> use the counter/offset design pattern for RTE_ARCH_32 too.
>>>>>
>>>>> [2]:
>>>> https://inbox.dpdk.org/dev/98CBD80474FA8B44BF855DF32C47DC35E9F433@smarts
>>>> erver.smartshare.dk/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> This code built with -O3 and -m32 on godbolt shows split problem.
>>>>
>>>> #include <stdint.h>
>>>>
>>>> typedef uint64_t rte_counter64_t;
>>>>
>>>> void
>>>> rte_counter64_add(rte_counter64_t *counter, uint32_t val)
>>>> {
>>>> 	*counter += val;
>>>> }
>>>> …	*counter = val;
>>>> }
>>>>
>>>> rte_counter64_add:
>>>>          push    ebx
>>>>          mov     eax, DWORD PTR [esp+8]
>>>>          xor     ebx, ebx
>>>>          mov     ecx, DWORD PTR [esp+12]
>>>>          add     DWORD PTR [eax], ecx
>>>>          adc     DWORD PTR [eax+4], ebx
>>>>          pop     ebx
>>>>          ret
>>>>
>>>> rte_counter64_read:
>>>>          mov     eax, DWORD PTR [esp+4]
>>>>          mov     edx, DWORD PTR [eax+4]
>>>>          mov     eax, DWORD PTR [eax]
>>>>          ret
>>>> rte_counter64_set:
>>>>          movq    xmm0, QWORD PTR [esp+8]
>>>>          mov     eax, DWORD PTR [esp+4]
>>>>          movq    QWORD PTR [eax], xmm0
>>>>          ret
>>>
>>> Sure, atomic might be required on some 32 bit architectures and/or with some compilers.
>>
>> in theory i think you should be able to use generic atomics and
>> depending on the target you get codegen that works. it might be
>> something more expensive on 32-bit and nothing on 64-bit etc..
>>
>> what's the damage if we just use atomic generic and relaxed ordering? is
>> the codegen not optimal?
> 
> If we use atomic with relaxed memory order, then compiler for x86 still generates
> a locked increment in the fast path. This costs about 100 extra cycles due
> to cache and prefetch stall. This whole endeavor is an attempt to avoid that.
> 

It's because the code is overly restrictive (e.g., needlessly forcing 
the whole read-modify-read being atomic), in that case, and no fault of 
the compiler.

void add(uint64_t *addr, uint64_t operand)
{
     uint64_t value = __atomic_load_n(addr, __ATOMIC_RELAXED);
     value += operand;
     __atomic_store_n(addr, value, __ATOMIC_RELAXED);
}

->

x86_64

add:
         mov     rax, QWORD PTR [rdi]
         add     rax, rsi
         mov     QWORD PTR [rdi], rax
         ret


x86

add:
         sub     esp, 12
         mov     ecx, DWORD PTR [esp+16]
         movq    xmm0, QWORD PTR [ecx]
         movq    QWORD PTR [esp], xmm0
         mov     eax, DWORD PTR [esp]
         mov     edx, DWORD PTR [esp+4]
         add     eax, DWORD PTR [esp+20]
         adc     edx, DWORD PTR [esp+24]
         mov     DWORD PTR [esp], eax
         mov     DWORD PTR [esp+4], edx
         movq    xmm1, QWORD PTR [esp]
         movq    QWORD PTR [ecx], xmm1
         add     esp, 12
         ret

No locked instructions.

> PS: looking at the locked increment code for 32 bit involves locked compare
> exchange and potential retry. Probably don't care about performance on that platform
> anymore.
> 
> 

  reply	other threads:[~2024-05-26 14:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 179+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-04-25 17:46 [RFC] net/af_packet: make stats reset reliable Ferruh Yigit
2024-04-26 11:33 ` Morten Brørup
2024-04-26 13:37   ` Ferruh Yigit
2024-04-26 14:56     ` Morten Brørup
2024-04-28 15:42   ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-04-26 14:38 ` [RFC v2] " Ferruh Yigit
2024-04-26 14:47   ` Morten Brørup
2024-04-28 15:11   ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-05-01 16:19     ` Ferruh Yigit
2024-05-02  5:51       ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-05-02 14:22         ` Ferruh Yigit
2024-05-02 15:59           ` Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-02 18:20             ` Ferruh Yigit
2024-05-02 17:37           ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-05-02 18:26             ` Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-02 21:26               ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-05-02 21:46                 ` Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-07  7:23     ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-05-07 13:49       ` Ferruh Yigit
2024-05-07 14:51         ` Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-07 16:00           ` Morten Brørup
2024-05-07 16:54             ` Ferruh Yigit
2024-05-07 18:47               ` Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-08  7:48             ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-05-08  6:28           ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-05-08  6:25         ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-05-07 19:19       ` Morten Brørup
2024-05-08  6:34         ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-05-08  7:10           ` Morten Brørup
2024-05-08  7:23             ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-04-26 21:28 ` [RFC] " Patrick Robb
2024-05-03 15:45 ` [RFC v3] " Ferruh Yigit
2024-05-03 22:00   ` Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-07 13:48     ` Ferruh Yigit
2024-05-07 14:52       ` Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-07 17:27         ` Ferruh Yigit
2024-05-08  7:19     ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-05-08 15:23       ` Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-08 19:48         ` Ferruh Yigit
2024-05-08 20:54           ` Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-09  7:43             ` Morten Brørup
2024-05-09  9:29               ` Bruce Richardson
2024-05-09 11:37                 ` Morten Brørup
2024-05-09 14:19                   ` Morten Brørup
2024-05-10  4:56                     ` Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-10  9:14                       ` Morten Brørup
2024-05-26  7:10                         ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-05-26  7:07                     ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-05-26  7:03                   ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-05-26  7:21         ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-10-04 17:40           ` Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-07 15:27   ` Morten Brørup
2024-05-07 17:40     ` Ferruh Yigit
2024-05-10  5:01 ` [RFC 0/3] generic sw counters Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-10  5:01   ` [RFC 1/3] ethdev: add internal helper of SW driver statistics Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-10  5:01   ` [RFC 2/3] net/af_packet: use SW stats helper Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-10  5:01   ` [RFC 3/3] net/tap: use generic SW stats Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-10 17:29   ` [RFC 0/3] generic sw counters Morten Brørup
2024-05-10 19:30     ` Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-13 18:52   ` [RFC v2 0/7] generic SW counters Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-13 18:52     ` [RFC v2 1/7] eal: generic 64 bit counter Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-13 19:36       ` Morten Brørup
2024-05-13 18:52     ` [RFC v2 2/7] ethdev: add internal helper of SW driver statistics Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-13 18:52     ` [RFC v2 3/7] net/af_packet: use SW stats helper Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-13 18:52     ` [RFC v2 4/7] net/tap: use generic SW stats Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-13 18:52     ` [RFC v2 5/7] net/pcap: " Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-13 18:52     ` [RFC v2 6/7] net/af_xdp: " Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-13 18:52     ` [RFC v2 7/7] net/ring: " Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-14 15:35   ` [PATCH v3 0/7] Generic SW counters Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-14 15:35     ` [PATCH v3 1/7] eal: generic 64 bit counter Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-15  9:30       ` Morten Brørup
2024-05-15 15:03         ` Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-15 16:18           ` Morten Brørup
2024-05-26  7:34         ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-05-26  6:45       ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-05-14 15:35     ` [PATCH v3 2/7] ethdev: add internal helper of SW driver statistics Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-14 15:35     ` [PATCH v3 3/7] net/af_packet: use SW stats helper Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-14 15:35     ` [PATCH v3 4/7] net/af_xdp: use generic SW stats Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-14 15:35     ` [PATCH v3 5/7] net/pcap: " Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-14 15:35     ` [PATCH v3 6/7] net/ring: " Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-14 15:35     ` [PATCH v3 7/7] net/tap: " Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-15 23:40   ` [PATCH v4 0/8] Generic 64 bit counters for SW PMD's Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-15 23:40     ` [PATCH v4 1/8] eal: generic 64 bit counter Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-15 23:40     ` [PATCH v4 2/8] ethdev: add common counters for statistics Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-15 23:40     ` [PATCH v4 3/8] net/af_packet: use generic SW stats Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-15 23:40     ` [PATCH v4 4/8] net/af_xdp: " Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-15 23:40     ` [PATCH v4 5/8] net/pcap: " Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-15 23:40     ` [PATCH v4 6/8] net/ring: " Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-15 23:40     ` [PATCH v4 7/8] net/tap: " Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-15 23:41     ` [PATCH v4 8/8] net/null: " Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-16 15:40   ` [PATCH v5 0/9] Generic 64 bit counters Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-16 15:40     ` [PATCH v5 1/9] eal: generic 64 bit counter Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-16 18:22       ` Wathsala Wathawana Vithanage
2024-05-16 21:42         ` Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-17  2:39           ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2024-05-17  3:29             ` Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-17  4:39               ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2024-05-16 15:40     ` [PATCH v5 2/9] ethdev: add common counters for statistics Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-16 18:30       ` Wathsala Wathawana Vithanage
2024-05-17  0:19         ` Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-16 15:40     ` [PATCH v5 3/9] net/af_packet: use generic SW stats Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-16 15:40     ` [PATCH v5 4/9] net/af_xdp: " Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-16 15:40     ` [PATCH v5 5/9] net/pcap: " Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-16 15:40     ` [PATCH v5 6/9] test/pmd_ring: initialize mbufs Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-16 15:40     ` [PATCH v5 7/9] net/ring: use generic SW stats Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-16 15:40     ` [PATCH v5 8/9] net/tap: " Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-16 15:40     ` [PATCH v5 9/9] net/null: " Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-17  0:12   ` [PATCH v6 0/9] Generic 64 bit counters for SW drivers Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-17  0:12     ` [PATCH v6 1/9] eal: generic 64 bit counter Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-17  2:45       ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2024-05-17  3:30         ` Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-17  4:26           ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2024-05-17  6:44             ` Morten Brørup
2024-05-17 15:05               ` Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-17 16:18               ` Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-18 14:00                 ` Morten Brørup
2024-05-19 15:13                   ` Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-19 17:10                     ` Morten Brørup
2024-05-19 22:49                       ` Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-20  7:57                         ` Morten Brørup
2024-05-17 15:07             ` Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-17  0:12     ` [PATCH v6 2/9] ethdev: add common counters for statistics Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-17  0:12     ` [PATCH v6 3/9] net/af_packet: use generic SW stats Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-17  0:12     ` [PATCH v6 4/9] net/af_xdp: " Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-17 13:34       ` Loftus, Ciara
2024-05-17 14:54         ` Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-17  0:12     ` [PATCH v6 5/9] net/pcap: " Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-17  0:12     ` [PATCH v6 6/9] test/pmd_ring: initialize mbufs Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-17  0:12     ` [PATCH v6 7/9] net/ring: use generic SW stats Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-17  0:12     ` [PATCH v6 8/9] net/tap: " Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-17  0:12     ` [PATCH v6 9/9] net/null: " Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-17 17:35   ` [PATCH v7 0/9] Use weak atomic operations for SW PMD counters Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-17 17:35     ` [PATCH v7 1/9] eal: generic 64 bit counter Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-17 17:35     ` [PATCH v7 2/9] ethdev: add common counters for statistics Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-17 17:35     ` [PATCH v7 3/9] net/af_packet: use generic SW stats Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-17 17:35     ` [PATCH v7 4/9] net/af_xdp: " Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-17 17:35     ` [PATCH v7 5/9] net/pcap: " Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-17 17:35     ` [PATCH v7 6/9] test/pmd_ring: initialize mbufs Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-17 17:35     ` [PATCH v7 7/9] net/ring: use generic SW stats Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-17 17:35     ` [PATCH v7 8/9] net/tap: " Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-17 17:35     ` [PATCH v7 9/9] net/null: " Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-21 17:00   ` [PATCH v8 0/8] Common statistics routines for SW based PMD's Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-21 17:00     ` [PATCH v8 1/8] eal: generic 64 bit counter Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-21 17:00     ` [PATCH v8 2/8] ethdev: add common counters for statistics Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-21 17:00     ` [PATCH v8 3/8] net/af_packet: use generic SW stats Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-21 17:00     ` [PATCH v8 4/8] net/af_xdp: " Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-21 17:00     ` [PATCH v8 5/8] net/pcap: " Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-21 17:00     ` [PATCH v8 6/8] net/ring: " Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-21 17:00     ` [PATCH v8 7/8] net/tap: " Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-21 17:00     ` [PATCH v8 8/8] net/null: " Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-21 20:16   ` [PATCH v9 0/8] Common statistics for SW PMD's Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-21 20:16     ` [PATCH v9 1/8] eal: generic 64 bit counter Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-22  8:31       ` Morten Brørup
2024-05-22 15:33         ` Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-22 18:09           ` Morten Brørup
2024-05-22 19:53             ` Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-22 20:56               ` Morten Brørup
2024-05-22 15:37         ` Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-22 17:57           ` Morten Brørup
2024-05-22 19:01             ` Tyler Retzlaff
2024-05-22 19:51               ` Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-26 14:46                 ` Mattias Rönnblom [this message]
2024-05-26 14:39               ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-05-21 20:16     ` [PATCH v9 2/8] ethdev: add common counters for statistics Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-21 20:16     ` [PATCH v9 3/8] net/af_packet: use generic SW stats Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-21 20:16     ` [PATCH v9 4/8] net/af_xdp: " Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-21 20:16     ` [PATCH v9 5/8] net/pcap: " Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-21 20:16     ` [PATCH v9 6/8] net/ring: " Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-21 20:16     ` [PATCH v9 7/8] net/tap: " Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-21 20:16     ` [PATCH v9 8/8] net/null: " Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-22 16:12   ` [PATCH v10 0/8] Common statistics for software PMD's Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-22 16:12     ` [PATCH v10 1/8] eal: generic 64 bit counter Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-22 16:12     ` [PATCH v10 2/8] ethdev: add common counters for statistics Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-22 16:12     ` [PATCH v10 3/8] net/af_packet: use generic SW stats Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-22 16:12     ` [PATCH v10 4/8] net/af_xdp: " Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-22 16:12     ` [PATCH v10 5/8] net/pcap: " Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-22 16:12     ` [PATCH v10 6/8] net/ring: " Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-22 16:12     ` [PATCH v10 7/8] net/tap: " Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-22 16:12     ` [PATCH v10 8/8] net/null: " Stephen Hemminger

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