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From: Andrew Rybchenko <andrew.rybchenko@oktetlabs.ru>
To: Dmitry Kozlyuk <dkozlyuk@nvidia.com>, dev@dpdk.org
Cc: Qi Zhang <qi.z.zhang@intel.com>, Ori Kam <orika@nvidia.com>,
	Thomas Monjalon <thomas@monjalon.net>,
	Ferruh Yigit <ferruh.yigit@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 1/6] ethdev: add capability to keep flow rules on restart
Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2021 13:39:43 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <c7fbb63d-23e5-680a-97a4-870d51559ab9@oktetlabs.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20211019123722.3414694-2-dkozlyuk@nvidia.com>

On 10/19/21 3:37 PM, Dmitry Kozlyuk wrote:
> Previously, it was not specified what happens to the flow rules
> when the device is stopped, possibly reconfigured, then started.
> If flow rules were kept, it could be convenient for application
> developers, because they wouldn't need to save and restore them.
> However, due to the number of flows and possible creation rate it is
> impractical to save all flow rules in DPDK layer. This means that flow
> rules persistence really depends on whether PMD and HW can implement it
> efficiently. It can also be limited by the rule item and action types,
> and its attributes transfer bit (a combination of an item/action type
> and a value of the transfer bit is called a ruel feature).
> 
> Add a device capability bit for PMDs that can keep at least some
> of the flow rules across restart. Without this capability behavior
> is still unspecified and it is declared that the application must
> flush the rules before stopping the device.
> Allow the application to test for persitence of rules using

persitence -> persistence

> a particular feature by attempting to create a flow rule
> using that feature when the device is stopped
> and checking for the specific error.
> This is logical because if the PMD can to create the flow rule
> when the device is not started and use it after the start happens,
> it is natural that it can move its internal flow rule object
> to the same state when the device is stopped and restore the state
> when the device is started.
> 
> Rule persistence across a reconfigurations is not required,
> because tracking all the rules and configuration-dependent resources
> they use may be infeasible. In case a PMD cannot keep the rules
> across reconfiguration, it is allowed just to report an error.
> Application must then flush the rules before attempting it.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Dmitry Kozlyuk <dkozlyuk@nvidia.com>
> ---
>  doc/guides/prog_guide/rte_flow.rst | 25 +++++++++++++++++++++++++
>  lib/ethdev/rte_ethdev.h            |  7 +++++++
>  lib/ethdev/rte_flow.h              |  1 +
>  3 files changed, 33 insertions(+)
> 
> diff --git a/doc/guides/prog_guide/rte_flow.rst b/doc/guides/prog_guide/rte_flow.rst
> index 2b42d5ec8c..ff67b211e3 100644
> --- a/doc/guides/prog_guide/rte_flow.rst
> +++ b/doc/guides/prog_guide/rte_flow.rst
> @@ -87,6 +87,31 @@ To avoid resource leaks on the PMD side, handles must be explicitly
>  destroyed by the application before releasing associated resources such as
>  queues and ports.
>  
> +If ``RTE_ETH_DEV_CAPA_FLOW_RULE_KEEP`` is not advertised,
> +rules cannot be created until the device is started for the first time
> +and cannot be kept when the device is stopped.
> +However, PMD also does not flush them automatically on stop,
> +so the application must call ``rte_flow_flush()`` or ``rte_flow_destroy()``
> +before stopping the device to ensure no rules remain.
> +
> +If ``RTE_ETH_DEV_CAPA_FLOW_RULE_KEEP`` is advertised, this means
> +the PMD can keep at least some rules across the device stop and start.
> +However, ``rte_eth_dev_configure()`` may fail if any rules remain,
> +so the application must flush them before attempting a reconfiguration.
> +Keeping may be unsupported for some types of rule items and actions,
> +as well as depending on the value of flow attributes transfer bit.
> +A combination of an item or action type and a value of the transfer bit
> +is called a rule feature.

As I said before a combination is very hard to test and
unfriendly to applications. Do we really need to make it
that complex?

Which PMDs are going to support it? Which cases will really
be distinguished and will have different support (keep or not)?

> +To test if rules with a particular feature are kept, the application must try
> +to create a valid rule using this feature when the device is stopped
> +(after it has been configured or started previously).

Sorry, it hardly makes sense. Does it suggest an application
to:
 1. configure
 2. start
 3. stop
 4. check/create flow rules
 5. start again
as a regular start sequence instead of just configure+start.
IMHO, it must be possible to check just after configure without
start. Otherwise it looks really bad.

> +If it fails with an error of type ``RTE_FLOW_ERROR_TYPE_STATE``,
> +rules using this feature are flushed when the device is stopped.

Which entity does flush it?

> +If it suceeds, such rules will be kept when the device is stopped,

suceeds -> succeeds

kept and functional? I.e. transfer rules still route traffic to
other ports which could be up and running.

> +provided they do not use other features that are not supported.
> +Rules that are created when the device is stopped, including the rules
> +created for the test, will be kept after the device is started.
> +
>  The following sections cover:
>  
>  - **Attributes** (represented by ``struct rte_flow_attr``): properties of a

  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-10-20 10:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 96+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-10-05  0:52 [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 0/5] Flow entites behavior on port restart dkozlyuk
2021-10-05  0:52 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 1/5] ethdev: add capability to keep flow rules on restart dkozlyuk
2021-10-06  6:15   ` Ori Kam
2021-10-06  6:55     ` Somnath Kotur
2021-10-06 17:15   ` Ajit Khaparde
2021-10-05  0:52 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 2/5] ethdev: add capability to keep shared objects " dkozlyuk
2021-10-06  6:16   ` Ori Kam
2021-10-13  8:32   ` Dmitry Kozlyuk
2021-10-14 13:46     ` Ferruh Yigit
2021-10-14 21:45       ` Dmitry Kozlyuk
2021-10-14 21:48         ` Dmitry Kozlyuk
2021-10-15 11:46         ` Ferruh Yigit
2021-10-15 12:35           ` Dmitry Kozlyuk
2021-10-15 16:26             ` Ferruh Yigit
2021-10-16 20:32               ` Dmitry Kozlyuk
2021-10-18  8:42                 ` Ferruh Yigit
2021-10-18 11:13                   ` Dmitry Kozlyuk
2021-10-18 11:59                     ` Ferruh Yigit
2021-10-14 14:14     ` Dmitry Kozlyuk
2021-10-15  8:26       ` Andrew Rybchenko
2021-10-15  9:04         ` Dmitry Kozlyuk
2021-10-15  9:36           ` Andrew Rybchenko
2021-10-05  0:52 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 3/5] net/mlx5: discover max flow priority using DevX dkozlyuk
2021-10-05  0:52 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 4/5] net/mlx5: create drop queue " dkozlyuk
2021-10-05  0:52 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 5/5] net/mlx5: preserve indirect actions on restart dkozlyuk
2021-10-15 16:18 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 0/5] Flow entites behavior on port restart Dmitry Kozlyuk
2021-10-15 16:18   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 1/5] ethdev: add capability to keep flow rules on restart Dmitry Kozlyuk
2021-10-18  8:56     ` Andrew Rybchenko
2021-10-19 12:38       ` Dmitry Kozlyuk
2021-10-18 13:06     ` Zhang, Qi Z
2021-10-18 22:51       ` Dmitry Kozlyuk
2021-10-19  1:00         ` Zhang, Qi Z
2021-10-15 16:18   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 2/5] ethdev: add capability to keep shared objects " Dmitry Kozlyuk
2021-10-17  8:10     ` Ori Kam
2021-10-17  9:14       ` Dmitry Kozlyuk
2021-10-17  9:45         ` Ori Kam
2021-10-15 16:18   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 3/5] net/mlx5: discover max flow priority using DevX Dmitry Kozlyuk
2021-10-15 16:18   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 4/5] net/mlx5: create drop queue " Dmitry Kozlyuk
2021-10-15 16:18   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 5/5] net/mlx5: preserve indirect actions on restart Dmitry Kozlyuk
2021-10-19 12:37   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 0/6] Flow entites behavior on port restart Dmitry Kozlyuk
2021-10-19 12:37     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 1/6] ethdev: add capability to keep flow rules on restart Dmitry Kozlyuk
2021-10-19 15:22       ` Ori Kam
2021-10-19 16:38       ` Ferruh Yigit
2021-10-19 17:13         ` Dmitry Kozlyuk
2021-10-20 10:39       ` Andrew Rybchenko [this message]
2021-10-20 11:40         ` Dmitry Kozlyuk
2021-10-20 13:40           ` Ori Kam
2021-10-19 12:37     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 2/6] ethdev: add capability to keep shared objects " Dmitry Kozlyuk
2021-10-19 15:22       ` Ori Kam
2021-10-19 12:37     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 3/6] net: advertise no support for keeping flow rules Dmitry Kozlyuk
2021-10-20 10:08       ` Andrew Rybchenko
2021-10-20 22:20         ` Dmitry Kozlyuk
2021-10-19 12:37     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 4/6] net/mlx5: discover max flow priority using DevX Dmitry Kozlyuk
2021-10-19 12:37     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 5/6] net/mlx5: create drop queue " Dmitry Kozlyuk
2021-10-19 12:37     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 6/6] net/mlx5: preserve indirect actions on restart Dmitry Kozlyuk
2021-10-20 10:12     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 0/6] Flow entites behavior on port restart Andrew Rybchenko
2021-10-20 13:21       ` Dmitry Kozlyuk
2021-10-21  6:34     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 " Dmitry Kozlyuk
2021-10-21  6:34       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 1/6] ethdev: add capability to keep flow rules on restart Dmitry Kozlyuk
2021-10-21  7:36         ` Ori Kam
2021-10-28 18:33         ` Ajit Khaparde
2021-11-01 15:02         ` Andrew Rybchenko
2021-11-01 15:56           ` Dmitry Kozlyuk
2021-10-21  6:34       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 2/6] ethdev: add capability to keep shared objects " Dmitry Kozlyuk
2021-10-21  7:37         ` Ori Kam
2021-10-21 18:28         ` Ajit Khaparde
2021-11-01 15:04         ` Andrew Rybchenko
2021-10-21  6:35       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 3/6] net: advertise no support for keeping flow rules Dmitry Kozlyuk
2021-10-21 18:26         ` Ajit Khaparde
2021-10-22  1:38           ` Somnath Kotur
2021-10-27  7:11         ` Hyong Youb Kim (hyonkim)
2021-11-01 15:06         ` Andrew Rybchenko
2021-11-01 16:59           ` Ferruh Yigit
2021-10-21  6:35       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 4/6] net/mlx5: discover max flow priority using DevX Dmitry Kozlyuk
2021-10-21  6:35       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 5/6] net/mlx5: create drop queue " Dmitry Kozlyuk
2021-10-21  6:35       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 6/6] net/mlx5: preserve indirect actions on restart Dmitry Kozlyuk
2021-10-26 11:46       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 0/6] Flow entites behavior on port restart Ferruh Yigit
2021-11-01 13:43         ` Ferruh Yigit
2021-11-02 13:49       ` Ferruh Yigit
2021-11-02 13:54       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 " Dmitry Kozlyuk
2021-11-02 13:54         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 1/6] ethdev: add capability to keep flow rules on restart Dmitry Kozlyuk
2021-11-02 13:54         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 2/6] ethdev: add capability to keep shared objects " Dmitry Kozlyuk
2021-11-02 13:54         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 3/6] net: advertise no support for keeping flow rules Dmitry Kozlyuk
2021-11-02 13:54         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 4/6] net/mlx5: discover max flow priority using DevX Dmitry Kozlyuk
2021-11-02 13:54         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 5/6] net/mlx5: create drop queue " Dmitry Kozlyuk
2021-11-02 13:54         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 6/6] net/mlx5: preserve indirect actions on restart Dmitry Kozlyuk
2021-11-02 14:23         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 0/6] Flow entites behavior on port restart Ferruh Yigit
2021-11-02 17:02           ` Dmitry Kozlyuk
2021-11-02 17:01         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 " Dmitry Kozlyuk
2021-11-02 17:01           ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 1/6] ethdev: add capability to keep flow rules on restart Dmitry Kozlyuk
2021-11-02 17:01           ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 2/6] ethdev: add capability to keep shared objects " Dmitry Kozlyuk
2021-11-02 17:01           ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 3/6] net: advertise no support for keeping flow rules Dmitry Kozlyuk
2021-11-02 17:01           ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 4/6] net/mlx5: discover max flow priority using DevX Dmitry Kozlyuk
2021-11-02 17:01           ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 5/6] net/mlx5: create drop queue " Dmitry Kozlyuk
2021-11-02 17:01           ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 6/6] net/mlx5: preserve indirect actions on restart Dmitry Kozlyuk
2021-11-02 18:02           ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 0/6] Flow entites behavior on port restart Ferruh Yigit

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