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From: "Mattias Rönnblom" <hofors@lysator.liu.se>
To: "Morten Brørup" <mb@smartsharesystems.com>,
	"Mattias Rönnblom" <mattias.ronnblom@ericsson.com>,
	dev@dpdk.org
Cc: Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org>,
	David Marchand <david.marchand@redhat.com>,
	Pavan Nikhilesh <pbhagavatula@marvell.com>,
	Bruce Richardson <bruce.richardson@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 6/6] vhost: optimize memcpy routines when cc memcpy is used
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2024 21:27:01 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <d56d7299-3274-4db8-94bd-85ad59801159@lysator.liu.se> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <98CBD80474FA8B44BF855DF32C47DC35E9F5B8@smartserver.smartshare.dk>

On 2024-07-29 13:00, Morten Brørup wrote:
>> From: Mattias Rönnblom [mailto:mattias.ronnblom@ericsson.com]
>> Sent: Wednesday, 24 July 2024 09.54
> 
> Which packet mix was used for your tests? Synthetic IMIX, or some live data?
> 

I used the same test as was being done when the performance regression 
was demonstrated (i.e., 2x testpmd with fixed packet size).

>> +/* The code generated by GCC (and to a lesser extent, clang) with just
>> + * a straight memcpy() to copy packets is less than optimal on Intel
>> + * P-cores, for small packets. Thus the need of this specialized
>> + * memcpy() in builds where use_cc_memcpy is set to true.
>> + */
>> +#if defined(RTE_USE_CC_MEMCPY) && defined(RTE_ARCH_X86_64)
>> +static __rte_always_inline void
>> +pktcpy(void *restrict in_dst, const void *restrict in_src, size_t len)
>> +{
>> +	void *dst = __builtin_assume_aligned(in_dst, 16);
>> +	const void *src = __builtin_assume_aligned(in_src, 16);
>> +
>> +	if (len <= 256) {
>> +		size_t left;
>> +
>> +		for (left = len; left >= 32; left -= 32) {
>> +			memcpy(dst, src, 32);
>> +			dst = RTE_PTR_ADD(dst, 32);
>> +			src = RTE_PTR_ADD(src, 32);
>> +		}
>> +
>> +		memcpy(dst, src, left);
>> +	} else
> 
> Although the packets within a burst often have similar size, I'm not sure you can rely on the dynamic branch predictor here.
> 

I agree that the pktcpy() routine will likely often suffer a 
size-related branch mispredict with real packet size mix. A benchmark 
with a real packet mix would be much better than the tests I've run.

This needs to be compared, of course, with the overhead imposed by 
conditionals included in other pktcpy() implementations.

> Looking at the ethdev packet size counters at an ISP (at the core of their Layer 3 network), 71 % are 256 byte or larger [1].
> 
> For static branch prediction, I would consider > 256 more likely and swap the two branches, i.e. compare (len > 256) instead of (len <= 256).
> 

OK, I'll add likely() instead, to make it more explicit.

> But again: I don't know how the dynamic branch predictor behaves here. Perhaps my suggested change makes no difference.
> 

I think it will, but it will be tiny. From what I understand, even when 
the branch prediction guessed correctly, one receive a slight benefit if 
the branch is not taken.

>> +		memcpy(dst, src, len);
>> +}
> 
> With or without suggested change,
> Acked-by: Morten Brørup <mb@smartsharesystems.com>
> 
> 
> [1]: Details (incl. one VLAN tag)
> tx_size_64_packets            1,1 %
> tx_size_65_to_127_packets    25,7 %
> tx_size_128_to_255_packets    2,6 %
> tx_size_256_to_511_packets    1,4 %
> tx_size_512_to_1023_packets   1,7 %
> tx_size_1024_to_1522_packets 67,6 %
> 

  reply	other threads:[~2024-07-29 19:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 128+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-05-27 11:11 [RFC] eal: provide option to use compiler memcpy instead of RTE Mattias Rönnblom
2024-05-28  7:43 ` [RFC v2] " Mattias Rönnblom
2024-05-28  8:19   ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-05-28  8:27     ` Bruce Richardson
2024-05-28  8:59       ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-05-28  9:07         ` Morten Brørup
2024-05-28 16:17           ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-05-28 14:59     ` Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-28 15:09       ` Bruce Richardson
2024-05-31  5:19         ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-05-31 16:50           ` Stephen Hemminger
2024-06-02 11:33             ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-05-28 16:03       ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-05-29 21:55         ` Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-28  8:20   ` Bruce Richardson
2024-06-02 12:39   ` [RFC v3 0/5] Optionally have rte_memcpy delegate to compiler memcpy Mattias Rönnblom
2024-06-02 12:39     ` [RFC v3 1/5] event/dlb2: include headers for vector and memory copy APIs Mattias Rönnblom
2024-06-05  6:49       ` [PATCH 0/5] Optionally have rte_memcpy delegate to compiler memcpy Mattias Rönnblom
2024-06-05  6:49         ` [PATCH 1/5] event/dlb2: include headers for vector and memory copy APIs Mattias Rönnblom
2024-06-05  6:49         ` [PATCH 2/5] net/octeon_ep: properly include vector API header file Mattias Rönnblom
2024-06-05  6:49         ` [PATCH 3/5] distributor: " Mattias Rönnblom
2024-06-10 14:27           ` Tyler Retzlaff
2024-06-05  6:49         ` [PATCH 4/5] fib: " Mattias Rönnblom
2024-06-10 14:28           ` Tyler Retzlaff
2024-06-05  6:49         ` [PATCH 5/5] eal: provide option to use compiler memcpy instead of RTE Mattias Rönnblom
2024-06-20  7:24         ` [PATCH v2 0/6] Optionally have rte_memcpy delegate to compiler memcpy Mattias Rönnblom
2024-06-20  7:24           ` [PATCH v2 1/6] net/fm10k: add missing intrinsic include Mattias Rönnblom
2024-06-20  9:02             ` Bruce Richardson
2024-06-20  9:28             ` Bruce Richardson
2024-06-20 11:40               ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-06-20 11:59                 ` Bruce Richardson
2024-06-20 11:50             ` [PATCH v3 0/6] Optionally have rte_memcpy delegate to compiler memcpy Mattias Rönnblom
2024-06-20 11:50               ` [PATCH v3 1/6] net/fm10k: add missing vector API header include Mattias Rönnblom
2024-06-20 12:34                 ` Bruce Richardson
2024-06-20 17:57                 ` [PATCH v4 00/13] Optionally have rte_memcpy delegate to compiler memcpy Mattias Rönnblom
2024-06-20 17:57                   ` [PATCH v4 01/13] net/i40e: add missing vector API header include Mattias Rönnblom
2024-07-24  7:53                     ` [PATCH v5 0/6] Optionally have rte_memcpy delegate to compiler memcpy Mattias Rönnblom
2024-07-24  7:53                       ` [PATCH v5 1/6] net/octeon_ep: add missing vector API header include Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-20 10:27                         ` [PATCH v6 0/7] Optionally have rte_memcpy delegate to compiler memcpy Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-20 10:27                           ` [PATCH v6 1/7] event/dlb2: include headers for vector and memory copy APIs Mattias Rönnblom
2024-10-09 20:59                             ` Morten Brørup
2024-10-09 22:01                             ` Stephen Hemminger
2024-09-20 10:27                           ` [PATCH v6 2/7] net/octeon_ep: add missing vector API header include Mattias Rönnblom
2024-10-09 21:00                             ` Morten Brørup
2024-09-20 10:27                           ` [PATCH v6 3/7] distributor: " Mattias Rönnblom
2024-10-09 21:00                             ` Morten Brørup
2024-09-20 10:27                           ` [PATCH v6 4/7] fib: " Mattias Rönnblom
2024-10-09 21:00                             ` Morten Brørup
2024-09-20 10:27                           ` [PATCH v6 5/7] eal: provide option to use compiler memcpy instead of RTE Mattias Rönnblom
2024-10-04  7:52                             ` David Marchand
2024-10-04  9:21                               ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-10-04  9:54                                 ` David Marchand
2024-10-04 12:07                                   ` Thomas Monjalon
2024-10-04  9:27                               ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-20 10:27                           ` [PATCH v6 6/7] ci: test compiler memcpy Mattias Rönnblom
2024-10-04  7:56                             ` David Marchand
2024-10-09 21:04                             ` Morten Brørup
2024-09-20 10:27                           ` [PATCH v6 7/7] vhost: optimize memcpy routines when cc memcpy is used Mattias Rönnblom
2024-10-03 11:46                             ` Maxime Coquelin
2024-10-09 21:25                             ` Morten Brørup
2024-10-10 10:29                               ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-10-09 21:57                             ` Stephen Hemminger
2024-10-10 10:35                               ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-07-24  7:53                       ` [PATCH v5 2/6] distributor: add missing vector API header include Mattias Rönnblom
2024-07-24  7:53                       ` [PATCH v5 3/6] fib: " Mattias Rönnblom
2024-07-24  7:53                       ` [PATCH v5 4/6] eal: provide option to use compiler memcpy instead of RTE Mattias Rönnblom
2024-07-24  7:53                       ` [PATCH v5 5/6] ci: test compiler memcpy Mattias Rönnblom
2024-07-24  7:53                       ` [PATCH v5 6/6] vhost: optimize memcpy routines when cc memcpy is used Mattias Rönnblom
2024-07-29 11:00                         ` Morten Brørup
2024-07-29 19:27                           ` Mattias Rönnblom [this message]
2024-07-29 19:56                             ` Morten Brørup
2024-06-20 17:57                   ` [PATCH v4 02/13] net/iavf: add missing vector API header include Mattias Rönnblom
2024-06-20 17:57                   ` [PATCH v4 03/13] net/ice: " Mattias Rönnblom
2024-06-20 17:57                   ` [PATCH v4 04/13] net/ixgbe: " Mattias Rönnblom
2024-06-20 17:57                   ` [PATCH v4 05/13] net/ngbe: " Mattias Rönnblom
2024-06-20 17:57                   ` [PATCH v4 06/13] net/txgbe: " Mattias Rönnblom
2024-06-20 17:57                   ` [PATCH v4 07/13] net/virtio: " Mattias Rönnblom
2024-06-20 17:57                   ` [PATCH v4 08/13] net/fm10k: " Mattias Rönnblom
2024-06-20 17:57                   ` [PATCH v4 09/13] event/dlb2: include headers for vector and memory copy APIs Mattias Rönnblom
2024-06-20 17:57                   ` [PATCH v4 10/13] net/octeon_ep: add missing vector API header include Mattias Rönnblom
2024-06-20 17:57                   ` [PATCH v4 11/13] distributor: " Mattias Rönnblom
2024-06-20 17:57                   ` [PATCH v4 12/13] fib: " Mattias Rönnblom
2024-06-20 17:57                   ` [PATCH v4 13/13] eal: provide option to use compiler memcpy instead of RTE Mattias Rönnblom
2024-06-21 15:19                     ` Stephen Hemminger
2024-06-24 10:05                     ` Thomas Monjalon
2024-06-24 17:56                       ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-06-25 13:06                       ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-06-25 13:34                         ` Thomas Monjalon
2024-06-20 18:53                   ` [PATCH v4 00/13] Optionally have rte_memcpy delegate to compiler memcpy Morten Brørup
2024-06-21  6:56                   ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-06-21  7:04                     ` David Marchand
2024-06-21  7:35                       ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-06-21  7:41                         ` David Marchand
2024-06-25 15:29                   ` Maxime Coquelin
2024-06-25 15:44                     ` Stephen Hemminger
2024-06-25 19:27                     ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-06-26  8:37                       ` Maxime Coquelin
2024-06-26 14:58                         ` Stephen Hemminger
2024-06-26 15:24                           ` Maxime Coquelin
2024-06-26 18:47                             ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-06-26 20:16                               ` Morten Brørup
2024-06-27 11:06                                 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-06-27 15:10                                   ` Stephen Hemminger
2024-06-27 15:23                                     ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-06-20 11:50               ` [PATCH v3 2/6] event/dlb2: include headers for vector and memory copy APIs Mattias Rönnblom
2024-06-20 11:50               ` [PATCH v3 3/6] net/octeon_ep: add missing vector API header include Mattias Rönnblom
2024-06-20 11:50               ` [PATCH v3 4/6] distributor: " Mattias Rönnblom
2024-06-20 11:50               ` [PATCH v3 5/6] fib: " Mattias Rönnblom
2024-06-20 11:50               ` [PATCH v3 6/6] eal: provide option to use compiler memcpy instead of RTE Mattias Rönnblom
2024-06-20  7:24           ` [PATCH v2 2/6] event/dlb2: include headers for vector and memory copy APIs Mattias Rönnblom
2024-06-20  9:03             ` Bruce Richardson
2024-06-20  7:24           ` [PATCH v2 3/6] net/octeon_ep: properly include vector API header file Mattias Rönnblom
2024-06-20 14:43             ` Stephen Hemminger
2024-06-20  7:24           ` [PATCH v2 4/6] distributor: " Mattias Rönnblom
2024-06-20  9:13             ` Bruce Richardson
2024-06-20  7:24           ` [PATCH v2 5/6] fib: " Mattias Rönnblom
2024-06-20  9:14             ` Bruce Richardson
2024-06-20 14:43               ` Stephen Hemminger
2024-06-20  7:24           ` [PATCH v2 6/6] eal: provide option to use compiler memcpy instead of RTE Mattias Rönnblom
2024-06-02 12:39     ` [RFC v3 2/5] net/octeon_ep: properly include vector API header file Mattias Rönnblom
2024-06-02 12:39     ` [RFC v3 3/5] distributor: " Mattias Rönnblom
2024-06-02 12:39     ` [RFC v3 4/5] fib: " Mattias Rönnblom
2024-06-02 12:39     ` [RFC v3 5/5] eal: provide option to use compiler memcpy instead of RTE Mattias Rönnblom
2024-06-02 20:58       ` Morten Brørup
2024-06-03 17:04         ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-06-03 17:08           ` Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-29 21:56 ` [RFC] " Stephen Hemminger
2024-06-02 11:30   ` Mattias Rönnblom

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