From: "Mattias Rönnblom" <mattias.ronnblom@ericsson.com>
To: "Morten Brørup" <mb@smartsharesystems.com>,
"Ola Liljedahl" <ola.liljedahl@arm.com>,
"dev@dpdk.org" <dev@dpdk.org>
Cc: Thomas Monjalon <thomas@monjalon.net>,
David Marchand <david.marchand@redhat.com>,
Onar Olsen <onar.olsen@ericsson.com>,
"Honnappa.Nagarahalli@arm.com" <Honnappa.Nagarahalli@arm.com>,
"nd@arm.com" <nd@arm.com>,
"konstantin.ananyev@intel.com" <konstantin.ananyev@intel.com>,
"stephen@networkplumber.org" <stephen@networkplumber.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] eal: add seqlock
Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2022 13:51:32 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <d9da2a61-b0a0-b3bb-02d4-aba3a0fa9a7b@ericsson.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <98CBD80474FA8B44BF855DF32C47DC35D86F8D@smartserver.smartshare.dk>
On 2022-03-31 11:25, Morten Brørup wrote:
>> From: Ola Liljedahl [mailto:ola.liljedahl@arm.com]
>> Sent: Thursday, 31 March 2022 11.05
>>
>> On 3/31/22 09:46, Mattias Rönnblom wrote:
>>> On 2022-03-30 16:26, Mattias Rönnblom wrote:
>>>> A sequence lock (seqlock) is synchronization primitive which allows
>>>> for data-race free, low-overhead, high-frequency reads, especially
>> for
>>>> data structures shared across many cores and which are updated with
>>>> relatively infrequently.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> <snip>
>>>
>>> Some questions I have:
>>>
>>> Is a variant of the seqlock without the spinlock required? The reason
>> I
>>> left such out was that I thought that in most cases where only a
>> single
>>> writer is used (or serialization is external to the seqlock), the
>>> spinlock overhead is negligible, since updates are relatively
>> infrequent.
>
> Mattias, when you suggested adding the seqlock, I considered this too, and came to the same conclusion as you.
>
>> You can combine the spinlock and the sequence number. Odd sequence
>> number means the seqlock is busy. That would replace a non-atomic RMW
>> of
>> the sequence number with an atomic RMW CAS and avoid the spin lock
>> atomic RMW operation. Not sure how much it helps.
>>
>>>
>>> Should the rte_seqlock_read_retry() be called rte_seqlock_read_end(),
>> or
>>> some third alternative? I wanted to make clear it's not just a
>> "release
>>> the lock" function. You could use
>>> the|||__attribute__((warn_unused_result)) annotation to make clear
>> the
>>> return value cannot be ignored, although I'm not sure DPDK ever use
>> that
>>> attribute.
>
> I strongly support adding __attribute__((warn_unused_result)) to the function. There's a first time for everything, and this attribute is very relevant here!
>
That would be a separate patch, I assume. Does anyone know if this
attribute is available in all supported compilers?
>> We have to decide how to use the seqlock API from the application
>> perspective.
>> Your current proposal:
>> do {
>> sn = rte_seqlock_read_begin(&seqlock)
>> //read protected data
>> } while (rte_seqlock_read_retry(&seqlock, sn));
>>
>> or perhaps
>> sn = rte_seqlock_read_lock(&seqlock);
>> do {
>> //read protected data
>> } while (!rte_seqlock_read_tryunlock(&seqlock, &sn));
>>
>> Tryunlock should signal to the user that the unlock operation might not
>> succeed and something needs to be repeated.
>
> Perhaps rename rte_seqlock_read_retry() to rte_seqlock_read_tryend()? As Ola mentions, this also inverses the boolean result value. If you consider this, please check that the resulting assembly output remains efficient.
>
> I think lock()/unlock() should be avoided in the read operation names, because no lock is taken during read. I like the critical region begin()/end() names.
>
> Regarding naming, you should also consider renaming rte_seqlock_write_begin/end() to rte_seqlock_write_lock/unlock(), following the naming convention of the other locks. This could prepare for future extensions, such as rte_seqlock_write_trylock(). Just a thought; I don't feel strongly about this.
>
> Ola, the rte_seqlock_read_lock(&seqlock) must remain inside the loop, because retries can be triggered by a write operation happening between the read_begin() and read_tryend(), and then the new sn must be used by the read operation.
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-03-31 13:51 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 104+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-03-22 16:10 DPDK seqlock Mattias Rönnblom
2022-03-22 16:46 ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2022-03-24 4:52 ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2022-03-24 5:06 ` Stephen Hemminger
2022-03-24 11:34 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2022-03-25 20:24 ` [RFC] eal: add seqlock Mattias Rönnblom
2022-03-25 21:10 ` Stephen Hemminger
2022-03-26 14:57 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2022-03-27 14:49 ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2022-03-27 17:42 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2022-03-28 10:53 ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2022-03-28 14:06 ` Ola Liljedahl
2022-03-29 8:32 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2022-03-29 13:20 ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2022-03-30 10:07 ` [PATCH] " Mattias Rönnblom
2022-03-30 10:50 ` Morten Brørup
2022-03-30 11:24 ` Tyler Retzlaff
2022-03-30 11:25 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2022-03-30 14:26 ` [PATCH v2] " Mattias Rönnblom
2022-03-31 7:46 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2022-03-31 9:04 ` Ola Liljedahl
2022-03-31 9:25 ` Morten Brørup
2022-03-31 9:38 ` Ola Liljedahl
2022-03-31 10:03 ` Morten Brørup
2022-03-31 11:44 ` Ola Liljedahl
2022-03-31 11:50 ` Morten Brørup
2022-03-31 14:02 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2022-04-01 15:07 ` [PATCH v3] " Mattias Rönnblom
2022-04-02 0:21 ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2022-04-02 11:01 ` Morten Brørup
2022-04-02 19:38 ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2022-04-10 13:51 ` [RFC 1/3] eal: add macro to warn for unused function return values Mattias Rönnblom
2022-04-10 13:51 ` [RFC 2/3] eal: emit warning for unused trylock return value Mattias Rönnblom
2022-04-10 13:51 ` [RFC 3/3] examples/bond: fix invalid use of trylock Mattias Rönnblom
2022-04-11 1:01 ` Min Hu (Connor)
2022-04-11 14:32 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2022-04-11 11:25 ` David Marchand
2022-04-11 14:33 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2022-04-10 18:02 ` [RFC 1/3] eal: add macro to warn for unused function return values Stephen Hemminger
2022-04-10 18:50 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2022-04-11 7:17 ` Morten Brørup
2022-04-11 14:29 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2022-04-11 9:16 ` Bruce Richardson
2022-04-11 14:27 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2022-04-11 15:15 ` [PATCH " Mattias Rönnblom
2022-04-11 15:15 ` [PATCH 2/3] eal: emit warning for unused trylock return value Mattias Rönnblom
2022-04-11 15:29 ` Morten Brørup
2022-04-11 15:15 ` [PATCH 3/3] examples/bond: fix invalid use of trylock Mattias Rönnblom
2022-04-14 12:06 ` David Marchand
2022-04-11 15:25 ` [PATCH 1/3] eal: add macro to warn for unused function return values Morten Brørup
2022-04-11 18:24 ` [RFC " Tyler Retzlaff
2022-04-03 6:10 ` [PATCH v3] eal: add seqlock Mattias Rönnblom
2022-04-03 17:27 ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2022-04-03 18:37 ` Ola Liljedahl
2022-04-04 21:56 ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2022-04-03 6:33 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2022-04-03 17:37 ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2022-04-08 13:45 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2022-04-02 18:15 ` Ola Liljedahl
2022-04-02 19:31 ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2022-04-02 20:36 ` Morten Brørup
2022-04-02 22:01 ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2022-04-03 18:11 ` Ola Liljedahl
2022-04-03 6:51 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2022-03-31 13:51 ` Mattias Rönnblom [this message]
2022-04-02 0:54 ` [PATCH v2] " Stephen Hemminger
2022-04-02 10:25 ` Morten Brørup
2022-04-02 17:43 ` Ola Liljedahl
2022-03-31 13:38 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2022-03-31 14:53 ` Ola Liljedahl
2022-04-02 0:52 ` Stephen Hemminger
2022-04-03 6:23 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2022-04-02 0:50 ` Stephen Hemminger
2022-04-02 17:54 ` Ola Liljedahl
2022-04-02 19:37 ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2022-04-05 20:16 ` Stephen Hemminger
2022-04-08 13:50 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2022-04-08 14:24 ` [PATCH v4] " Mattias Rönnblom
2022-04-08 15:17 ` Stephen Hemminger
2022-04-08 16:24 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2022-04-08 15:19 ` Stephen Hemminger
2022-04-08 16:37 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2022-04-08 16:48 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2022-04-12 17:27 ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2022-04-28 10:28 ` David Marchand
2022-05-01 13:46 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2022-05-01 14:03 ` [PATCH v5] " Mattias Rönnblom
2022-05-01 14:22 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2022-05-02 6:47 ` David Marchand
2022-05-01 20:17 ` Stephen Hemminger
2022-05-02 4:51 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2022-05-06 1:26 ` fengchengwen
2022-05-06 1:33 ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2022-05-06 4:17 ` fengchengwen
2022-05-06 5:19 ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2022-05-06 7:03 ` fengchengwen
2022-05-08 11:56 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2022-05-08 12:12 ` [PATCH v6] " Mattias Rönnblom
2022-05-08 16:10 ` Stephen Hemminger
2022-05-08 19:40 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2022-05-09 3:48 ` Stephen Hemminger
2022-05-09 6:26 ` Morten Brørup
2022-05-13 6:27 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2022-03-23 12:04 ` DPDK seqlock Morten Brørup
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