From: Andrew Rybchenko <arybchenko@solarflare.com>
To: Shahaf Shuler <shahafs@mellanox.com>,
"pbhagavatula@marvell.com" <pbhagavatula@marvell.com>,
"jerinj@marvell.com" <jerinj@marvell.com>,
"ferruh.yigit@intel.com" <ferruh.yigit@intel.com>,
John McNamara <john.mcnamara@intel.com>,
Marko Kovacevic <marko.kovacevic@intel.com>,
Thomas Monjalon <thomas@monjalon.net>
Cc: "dev@dpdk.org" <dev@dpdk.org>
Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 3/7] ethdev: add flow action type update as an offload
Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2019 10:08:47 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <e63de405-efcd-0dd7-f06d-2c9c95226f4a@solarflare.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AM0PR0502MB379530AB78CD68D1EE572D22C3A90@AM0PR0502MB3795.eurprd05.prod.outlook.com>
On 8/18/19 9:20 AM, Shahaf Shuler wrote:
> Sunday, August 18, 2019 8:57 AM, Andrew Rybchenko:
>> Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 3/7] ethdev: add flow action type update as
>> an offload
>>
>> On 8/18/19 7:59 AM, Shahaf Shuler wrote:
>>> Friday, August 16, 2019 11:05 AM, Andrew Rybchenko:
>>>> <marko.kovacevic@intel.com>; Thomas Monjalon
>> <thomas@monjalon.net>
>>>> Cc: dev@dpdk.org
>>>> Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 3/7] ethdev: add flow action type
>>>> update as an offload
>>>>
>>>> On 8/16/19 8:55 AM, pbhagavatula@marvell.com wrote:
>>>>> From: Pavan Nikhilesh <pbhagavatula@marvell.com>
>>>>>
>>>>> Add new Rx offload flag `DEV_RX_OFFLOAD_FLOW_MARK` that can be
>>>> used to
>>>>> enable/disable PMDs write to `rte_mbuf::hash::fdir::hi`.
>>>> Notes similar to RSS hash.
>>>>
>>>> It requires better motivation why. It lets Rx queue know that it will
>>>> be used as flow action MARK target and the queue should be configured
>>>> to deliver the mark from NIC to PMD and processed in the driver.
>>> This one is even worse than the RSS (sorry).
>>>
>>> First - the API breakage exists also here and if we want to include such
>> patch we should have proper doc on RN.
>>
>> Yes, there is a deprecation notice for it in v19.08 and I already mentioned in
>> review notes for the patch [1/7] that release notes are required.
>>
>>> Second - the user explicitly inserted a rte_flow rule w/ action mark. Its
>> expectation is to receive his mark on the mbuf (otherwise why would it set
>> this action?). it is not expected from the user to set another offload flag just
>> to enable the mark set on the mbuf. It makes the user experience very
>> convoluted.
>>> Third - so far we never reported rte_flow capabilities, and there is a good
>> reason for it - the cap matrix is too big. For rte_flow the chosen approach was
>> trail and error. If we start w/ the flow mark, the amount of cap bits the
>> application will need to monitor will be huge.
>>
>> The feature differs a lot from other rte_flow features since it adds Rx meta
>> information.
>> And yes, rte_flow rule to set mark should fail with appropriate diagnostics if
>> the offload is supported by not enabled or not supported at all. So,
>> application will be informed and I think it is less worse than RSS hash.
>>
>>> My suggestion here, for PMD that wants to optimize their datapath is to
>> check if flow w/ mark action was inserted on the queue. So long there is no
>> such flow they can disable the set of the mark.
>>
>> Unfortunately the information is required on Rx queue setup stage and
>> rte_rule insertion is too late.
> See my comments on the RSS patch. Same point of discussion.
>
> The main question we need to answer -
> User set flow mark action by rte_flow (that was accepted). Why does it need to set more flag?
I think all arguments are on the table.
Mine:
- possibility to squeeze more performance from HW and SW
- consistency (at least as I see it) in filling in of the information
in mbuf
(direct using corresponding offloads)
Your:
- more complexity in control (which is less painful in the case of
flow mark,
since it should be an error on flow rule setup, and a bit more
painful in
in the case of RSS hash since there is simply no RSS hash if not
enabled)
- API breakage (but there is deprecation notice in v19.08)
Many thanks for the discussion.
>> Anyway, the important point here is all Rx offloads consistency:
>> want something - enable it. The only remaining exception is packet type
>> which default behaviour is preserved since really flexible solution suggested
>> by Konstantin.
>>
>>>> Also I think that flow API action MARK documentation should be
>>>> updated to mentioned the offload.
>>>>
>>>>> Signed-off-by: Pavan Nikhilesh <pbhagavatula@marvell.com>
>>>>> ---
>>>>> doc/guides/nics/features.rst | 12 ++++++++++++
>>>>> lib/librte_ethdev/rte_ethdev.h | 1 +
>>>>> 2 files changed, 13 insertions(+)
>>>>>
>>>>> diff --git a/doc/guides/nics/features.rst
>>>>> b/doc/guides/nics/features.rst index f79b69b38..d67430d90 100644
>>>>> --- a/doc/guides/nics/features.rst
>>>>> +++ b/doc/guides/nics/features.rst
>>>>> @@ -594,6 +594,18 @@ application to set ptypes it is interested in.
>>>>> * **[provides] mbuf**: ``mbuf.packet_type``.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> +.. _nic_features_flow_action_type_update:
>>>> May be _nic_features_flow_mark ?
>>>>
>>>>> +
>>>>> +Flow type update
>>>> May be "Flow mark delivery" ?
>>>>
>>>>> +----------------
>>>>> +
>>>>> +Supports flow action type update to ``mbuf.ol_flags`` and
>>>> ``mbuf.hash.fdir.hi``.
>>>>> +
>>>>> +* **[uses] rte_eth_rxconf,rte_eth_rxmode**:
>>>> ``offloads:DEV_RX_OFFLOAD_FLOW_TYPE``.
>>>>
>>>> DEV_RX_OFFLOAD_FLOW_MARK, not TYPE.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> +* **[provides] mbuf**: ``mbuf.ol_flags:PKT_RX_FDIR``,
>>>>> +``mbuf.ol_flags:PKT_RX_FDIR_ID;``,
>>>>> + ``mbuf.hash.fdir.hi``
>>>>> +
>>>>> +
>>>>> .. _nic_features_timesync:
>>>>>
>>>>> Timesync
>>>>> diff --git a/lib/librte_ethdev/rte_ethdev.h
>>>>> b/lib/librte_ethdev/rte_ethdev.h index 889486a11..4a0cff830 100644
>>>>> --- a/lib/librte_ethdev/rte_ethdev.h
>>>>> +++ b/lib/librte_ethdev/rte_ethdev.h
>>>>> @@ -1014,6 +1014,7 @@ struct rte_eth_conf {
>>>>> #define DEV_RX_OFFLOAD_SCTP_CKSUM 0x00020000
>>>>> #define DEV_RX_OFFLOAD_OUTER_UDP_CKSUM 0x00040000
>>>>> #define DEV_RX_OFFLOAD_RSS_HASH 0x00080000
>>>>> +#define DEV_RX_OFFLOAD_FLOW_MARK 0x00100000
>>>>>
>>>>> #define DEV_RX_OFFLOAD_CHECKSUM
>>>> (DEV_RX_OFFLOAD_IPV4_CKSUM | \
>>>>> DEV_RX_OFFLOAD_UDP_CKSUM | \
>>>> Add to rte_rx_offload_names
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-08-18 7:09 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-08-16 5:55 [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 0/7] ethdev: add new Rx offload flags pbhagavatula
2019-08-16 5:55 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 1/7] ethdev: add set ptype function pbhagavatula
2019-08-16 8:22 ` Andrew Rybchenko
2019-08-17 16:27 ` [dpdk-dev] [EXT] " Pavan Nikhilesh Bhagavatula
2019-08-16 5:55 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 2/7] ethdev: add mbuf RSS update as a offload pbhagavatula
2019-08-16 7:48 ` Andrew Rybchenko
2019-08-17 11:47 ` Pavan Nikhilesh Bhagavatula
2019-08-18 4:52 ` Shahaf Shuler
2019-08-18 5:38 ` Andrew Rybchenko
2019-08-18 6:18 ` Shahaf Shuler
2019-08-18 7:00 ` Andrew Rybchenko
2019-08-18 12:11 ` Shahaf Shuler
2019-08-16 5:55 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 3/7] ethdev: add flow action type update as an offload pbhagavatula
2019-08-16 8:05 ` Andrew Rybchenko
2019-08-17 14:23 ` [dpdk-dev] [EXT] " Pavan Nikhilesh Bhagavatula
2019-08-18 9:46 ` Andrew Rybchenko
2019-08-18 4:59 ` [dpdk-dev] " Shahaf Shuler
2019-08-18 5:57 ` Andrew Rybchenko
2019-08-18 6:20 ` Shahaf Shuler
2019-08-18 7:08 ` Andrew Rybchenko [this message]
2019-08-16 5:55 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 4/7] net: update Rx RSS hash offload capabilities pbhagavatula
2019-08-16 7:49 ` Andrew Rybchenko
2019-08-17 12:26 ` Pavan Nikhilesh Bhagavatula
2019-08-16 5:55 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 5/7] net: update Rx flow action " pbhagavatula
2019-08-16 7:50 ` Andrew Rybchenko
2019-08-16 5:55 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 6/7] net: add ptype set default functionality pbhagavatula
2019-08-16 8:30 ` Andrew Rybchenko
2019-08-17 17:24 ` Pavan Nikhilesh Bhagavatula
2019-08-16 5:55 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 7/7] examples/eventdev_pipeline: add new Rx RSS hash offload pbhagavatula
2019-08-16 6:01 ` Jerin Jacob Kollanukkaran
2019-08-16 6:02 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 0/7] ethdev: add new Rx offload flags Jerin Jacob Kollanukkaran
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