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Also for the vendors that has specific tree, new drivers are still reviewed by next-net maintainers. > The Napatech driver is too large for Ferruh to review, which in my opinion [2] is an unreasonable argument for not accepting it. > Nope, this is not the exact reason for not accepting. I tried explain on reply to below thread, but briefly main reason is, it is a big chunk of code to be consumed by anyone, not just me, like the consumers of that device. Target is to improve the quality, if the driver split into per feature patches, even if I can't find review comments to improve the quality, it enables others (more smarter reviewers) to improve the code. > And the 3SNIC driver got no attention by any reviewers [3]. (Although Stephen did provide some basic feedback after they polled for review.) > True, unfortunately. This is different issue from the Napatech one, and this is more a bandwidth issue, so I think we can discuss these two separately. I mentioned about this on DPDK summit meeting, it helps to have pipeline of reviewers, like when I am not available I should know that Morten will be doing the driver reviews. There are many vendors actively contributing to DPDK, their support to add more reviewers to next-net is appreciated. > Overall, I think we should put much more trust in hardware vendors to provide high quality drivers for their hardware. We want vendors to upstream their drivers, with all the benefits of having the code public. If we make it too difficult, they will simply keep their drivers private instead. > Agree that this is another approach worth considering. This may work for some cases, the vendor trees are sample of it already, but those are the ones already part of the community for a while and have their track record, do we want to give same level of trust by default? Or we can even lower the bar to accept any code from any vendor by default, assuming CI checks are in place, this still won't help on discussions like if driver should have side channel socket interface or not etc.. And in this approach, for long run, how it will be different vendor sharing driver via a public git repo or upstreamed to dpdk.org? I think we can add value in dpdk.org which may sometimes means requesting more work from vendor. > @Maxime: I propose to put this on the agenda for the coming techboard meeting. > Please invite me too :) > > [1]: https://doc.dpdk.org/guides/contributing/new_library.html > [2]: http://inbox.dpdk.org/dev/98CBD80474FA8B44BF855DF32C47DC35D87BAF@smartserver.smartshare.dk/ > [3]: http://inbox.dpdk.org/dev/6df9c00f-23a0-423f-840b-4ecf20ff82fc@3snic.com/ > > > Med venlig hilsen / Kind regards, > -Morten Brørup >