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From: "Juraj Linkeš" <juraj.linkes@pantheon.tech>
To: Bruce Richardson <bruce.richardson@intel.com>
Cc: David Christensen <drc@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	"thomas@monjalon.net" <thomas@monjalon.net>,
	"Honnappa.Nagarahalli@arm.com" <Honnappa.Nagarahalli@arm.com>,
	"dev@dpdk.org" <dev@dpdk.org>
Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [RFC PATCH v2] build: add platform meson option
Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2021 12:57:42 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <f69c9d5398df4e37ba01a575d0f7199c@pantheon.tech> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210225125423.GC1546@bricha3-MOBL.ger.corp.intel.com>



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bruce Richardson <bruce.richardson@intel.com>
> Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2021 1:54 PM
> To: Juraj Linkeš <juraj.linkes@pantheon.tech>
> Cc: David Christensen <drc@linux.vnet.ibm.com>; thomas@monjalon.net;
> Honnappa.Nagarahalli@arm.com; dev@dpdk.org
> Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v2] build: add platform meson option
> 
> On Thu, Feb 25, 2021 at 12:51:57PM +0000, Juraj Linkeš wrote:
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Bruce Richardson <bruce.richardson@intel.com>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2021 10:43 AM
> > > To: Juraj Linkeš <juraj.linkes@pantheon.tech>
> > > Cc: David Christensen <drc@linux.vnet.ibm.com>; thomas@monjalon.net;
> > > Honnappa.Nagarahalli@arm.com; dev@dpdk.org
> > > Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v2] build: add platform meson option
> > >
> > > On Tue, Feb 23, 2021 at 08:45:09AM +0000, Juraj Linkeš wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: David Christensen <drc@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
> > > > > Sent: Monday, February 22, 2021 10:25 PM
> > > > > To: Juraj Linkeš <juraj.linkes@pantheon.tech>; Bruce Richardson
> > > > > <bruce.richardson@intel.com>
> > > > > Cc: thomas@monjalon.net; Honnappa.Nagarahalli@arm.com;
> > > dev@dpdk.org
> > > > > Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v2] build: add platform meson option
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On 2/19/21 1:11 AM, Juraj Linkeš wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> -----Original Message-----
> > > > > >> From: Bruce Richardson <bruce.richardson@intel.com>
> > > > > >> Sent: Wednesday, January 6, 2021 3:43 PM
> > > > > >> To: David Christensen <drc@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
> > > > > >> Cc: Juraj Linkeš <juraj.linkes@pantheon.tech>;
> > > > > >> thomas@monjalon.net; Honnappa.Nagarahalli@arm.com;
> > > > > >> dev@dpdk.org
> > > > > >> Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v2] build: add platform meson option
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> On Tue, Jan 05, 2021 at 02:17:44PM -0800, David Christensen wrote:
> > > > > >>>>> The current meson option 'machine' should only specify the
> > > > > >>>>> ISA, which is not sufficient for Arm, where setting ISA
> > > > > >>>>> implies other setting as
> > > > > >> well.
> > > > > >>>>> Add a new meson option, 'platform', which differentiates
> > > > > >>>>> the type of the build
> > > > > >>>>> (native/generic) and sets machine accordingly, unless the
> > > > > >>>>> user chooses to override it.
> > > > > >>>>> The 'machine' option also doesn't describe very well what
> > > > > >>>>> it sets, so introduce a new option 'cpu_instruction_set',
> > > > > >>>>> but keep 'machine' for backward compatibility.
> > > > > >>>>> These two new variables, taken together, achieve what 'machine'
> > > > > >>>>> was setting per architecture - setting the ISA in x86
> > > > > >>>>> build and setting native/default 'build type' in aarch64
> > > > > >>>>> build - is now properly being set for all architectures in a uniform
> manner.
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>> Signed-off-by: Juraj Linkeš <juraj.linkes@pantheon.tech>
> > > > > >>>>> ---
> > > > > >>>>>    config/arm/meson.build        |  4 +--
> > > > > >>>>>    config/meson.build            | 47 +++++++++++++++++++++++++----
> ----
> > > --
> > > > > >>>>>    devtools/test-meson-builds.sh |  9 ++++---
> > > > > >>>>>    meson_options.txt             |  8 ++++--
> > > > > >>>>>    4 files changed, 47 insertions(+), 21 deletions(-)
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>> diff --git a/config/arm/meson.build
> > > > > >>>>> b/config/arm/meson.build index
> > > > > >>>>> 42b4e43c7..6b09a74a7 100644
> > > > > >>>>> --- a/config/arm/meson.build
> > > > > >>>>> +++ b/config/arm/meson.build
> > > > > >>>>> @@ -3,10 +3,10 @@
> > > > > >>>>>    # Copyright(c) 2017 Cavium, Inc
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>    # for checking defines we need to use the correct
> > > > > >>>>> compiler flags -march_opt = '-
> > > > > >>>>> march=@0@'.format(machine)
> > > > > >>>>> +march_opt = '-march=@0@'.format(cpu_instruction_set)
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>    arm_force_native_march = false -arm_force_default_march
> > > > > >>>>> = (machine == 'default')
> > > > > >>>>> +arm_force_default_march = (platform == 'generic')
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>    flags_common_default = [
> > > > > >>>>>    	# Accelarate rte_memcpy. Be sure to run unit test
> > > > > >>>>> (memcpy_perf_autotest) diff --git a/config/meson.build
> > > > > >>>>> b/config/meson.build index a3154e29c..647116513 100644
> > > > > >>>>> --- a/config/meson.build
> > > > > >>>>> +++ b/config/meson.build
> > > > > >>>>> @@ -63,42 +63,63 @@ if not is_windows
> > > > > >>>>>    			pmd_subdir_opt)
> > > > > >>>>>    endif
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>> -# set the machine type and cflags for it
> > > > > >>>>> +platform = get_option('platform')
> > > > > >>>>> +
> > > > > >>>>> +# set the cpu_instruction_set type and cflags for it
> > > > > >>>>>    if meson.is_cross_build()
> > > > > >>>>> -	machine = host_machine.cpu()
> > > > > >>>>> +	cpu_instruction_set = host_machine.cpu()
> > > > > >>>>>    else
> > > > > >>>>> -	machine = get_option('machine')
> > > > > >>>>> +	cpu_instruction_set = get_option('cpu_instruction_set')
> > > > > >>>>> +	if get_option('machine') != 'auto'
> > > > > >>>>> +		warning('The "machine" option is deprecated. ' +
> > > > > >>>>> +		        'Please use "cpu_instruction_set" instead.')
> > > > > >>>>> +		if cpu_instruction_set != 'auto'
> > > > > >>>>> +			error('Setting both "machine" and ' +
> > > > > >>>>> +			      '"cpu_instruction_set" is unsupported.')
> > > > > >>>>> +		endif
> > > > > >>>>> +		cpu_instruction_set = get_option('machine')
> > > > > >>>>> +	endif
> > > > > >>>>> +endif
> > > > > >>>>> +
> > > > > >>>>> +if platform == 'native'
> > > > > >>>>> +	if cpu_instruction_set == 'auto'
> > > > > >>>>> +		cpu_instruction_set = 'native'
> > > > > >>>>> +	endif
> > > > > >>>>> +elif platform == 'generic'
> > > > > >>>>> +	if cpu_instruction_set == 'auto'
> > > > > >>>>> +		cpu_instruction_set = 'default'
> > > > > >>>>> +	endif
> > > > > >>>>>    endif
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>> -# machine type 'default' is special, it defaults to the
> > > > > >>>>> per arch agreed common
> > > > > >>>>> +if cpu_instruction_set == 'default'
> > > > > >>>>> +# cpu_instruction_set type 'default' is special, it
> > > > > >>>>> +defaults to the per arch agreed common
> > > > > >>>>>    # minimal baseline needed for DPDK.
> > > > > >>>>>    # That might not be the most optimized, but the most
> > > > > >>>>> portable version while  # still being able to support the
> > > > > >>>>> CPU features required for
> > > > > >> DPDK.
> > > > > >>>>>    # This can be bumped up by the DPDK project, but it can
> > > > > >>>>> never be an  # invariant like 'native'
> > > > > >>>>> -if machine == 'default'
> > > > > >>>>>    	if host_machine.cpu_family().startswith('x86')
> > > > > >>>>>    		# matches the old pre-meson build systems default
> > > > > >>>>> -		machine = 'corei7'
> > > > > >>>>> +		cpu_instruction_set = 'corei7'
> > > > > >>>>>    	elif host_machine.cpu_family().startswith('arm')
> > > > > >>>>> -		machine = 'armv7-a'
> > > > > >>>>> +		cpu_instruction_set = 'armv7-a'
> > > > > >>>>>    	elif host_machine.cpu_family().startswith('aarch')
> > > > > >>>>>    		# arm64 manages defaults in config/arm/meson.build
> > > > > >>>>> -		machine = 'default'
> > > > > >>>>> +		cpu_instruction_set = 'default'
> > > > > >>>>>    	elif host_machine.cpu_family().startswith('ppc')
> > > > > >>>>> -		machine = 'power8'
> > > > > >>>>> +		cpu_instruction_set = 'power8'
> > > > > >>>>>    	endif
> > > > > >>>>>    endif
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> This change forces the build on a P9 system to use the P8 instruction
> set.
> > > > > >>> Prior to this change the "native" machine type was used
> > > > > >>> which resulted in P9 instructions when built on a P9 system.
> > > > > >>> How do I force the build to use the
> > > > > >>> power9 instruction set in this case?
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> Dave
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>  From looking at the patch, setting the "platform" to
> > > > > >> "native", or the instruction_set to "native" should do this.
> > > > > >> While I consider generic builds a good thing, I wonder if
> > > > > >> there is an expectation that "native" is always the default
> > > > > >> build type for DPDK
> > > builds?
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> /Bruce
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I left this patch alone so that people could chime in, but
> > > > > > noone did, so let's try
> > > > > to find some agreeable solution.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > My current thoughts are as such:
> > > > > > The platform parameter specifies a set of DPDK options that
> > > > > > will be used. This
> > > > > is what arm uses for its builds, x86 and ppc don't use this.
> > > > > > The cpu_instruction_set sets just one configuration among the
> "platform"
> > > > > configuration set.
> > > > > > We want the build to work on most machines of the machine
> architecture.
> > > > > That implies platform=generic (as in use config options that
> > > > > will work on everything of that architecture) and
> > > > > cpu_instruction_set=generic (as in use ISA that will work on all
> > > > > cpus of the
> > > build machine architecture).
> > > > > > Setting cpu_instruction_set=generic changes the build without
> > > > > > cmdline options
> > > > > for ppc. Thus, the expectation may be that cpu_instruction_set
> > > > > should be native by default.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > For arm, cpu_instruction_set is ignored (and thus the value
> > > > > > doen't matter),
> > > > > since we can't use that without other config options (e.g. DPDK
> > > > > config for an SoC (such as RTE_ARM_FEATURE_ATOMICS) used with an
> > > > > invalid cpu_instuction_set). That means the only relevant
> > > > > parameter for Arm is platform and if we want to have a build
> > > > > usable on most machines of the build type, we have to use
> platform=generic.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > For x86 and ppc, there's no difference between native and
> > > > > > generic platform (as
> > > > > it's a new argument, the purpose of which is to differentiate
> > > > > DPDK config across platforms, which doesn't exist for x86 and
> > > > > ppc - DPDK config is the same (correct me if I'm wrong)).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So it basically boils down to what should be the default value
> > > > > > of
> > > > > cpu_instruction_set when platform=generic (for platform=native,
> > > > > it's obviously
> > > > > native):
> > > > > > 1. cpu_instruction_set=native, this would preserve the current
> > > > > > behavior, but
> > > > > we won't use the 'auto' default. I think we can fall back to
> > > > > this if we don't agree on anything better.
> > > > > > 2. cpu_instruction_set=auto, the same as
> > > > > > cpu_instruction_set=generic, 3. cpu_instruction_set=generic,
> > > > > > this changes behavior for ppc builds, but we
> > > > > may be able to remedy this:
> > > > > > Similarly to arm (arm is using platform for this, but the idea
> > > > > > is the same), if
> > > > > cpu_instruction_set is generic, we can do some discovery for pcc
> > > > > and set the ISA accordingly (either power8 or power9). If I
> > > > > understand it correctly, power8 is a different architecture from
> > > > > power9 (I could be wrong on this), so this is desirable. There's
> > > > > some logic in config/ppc/meson.build, but it doesn't seem
> > > > > sufficient as a discovery
> > > mechanism between power8/power9.
> > > > >
> > > > > POWER8 code (Power ISA v2.07) runs on POWER9 CPUs (Power ISA
> > > > > v3.0), so setting cpu_instruction_set to GENERIC is a reasonable option.
> > > > > POWER10 CPUs (Power ISA v3.1) are around the corner so I want to
> > > > > make sure developers can tune the application for the platform
> > > > > as easily as possible.  I'm fine with supporting GENERIC, just
> > > > > need clear instructions on how to build for a particular ISA.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > That's good to hear. Setting cpu_instruction_set will set the ISA.
> > > >
> > > > We'll need to document the behavior properly, but I'm not sure where -
> Bruce?
> > > Seems like meson_options.txt doesn't have enough room for that.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Yes, agreed. I suggest putting in the option help text a link to the
> > > documentation where we explain the options more fully.
> > >
> > > /Bruce
> >
> > You mentioned in the kni cross compile patch that we should do a separate
> patch where we explain the option in docs and I believe this would go into that
> patch. Before we do that, let's figure out the best description without the link. I
> currently have:
> > option('cpu_instruction_set', type: 'string', value: 'auto',
> > 	description: 'Set the target machine ISA (instruction set
> > architecture). Will be set according to the platform option by default.')
> option('platform', type: 'string', value: 'generic',
> > 	description: 'Platform to build, either "native" or "generic".')
> >
> > What do you think? Should we expand the platform description a bit?
> 
> Are there not more platform options than just those two?

We're adding more in http://patches.dpdk.org/project/dpdk/patch/1612361037-12746-3-git-send-email-juraj.linkes@pantheon.tech/. I don't think there are more than two without that.

  reply	other threads:[~2021-02-25 12:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-11-26 15:47 [dpdk-dev] [RFC PATCH v1] " Juraj Linkeš
2020-11-26 16:02 ` Bruce Richardson
2020-11-27  8:31   ` Juraj Linkeš
2020-11-27 14:07     ` Bruce Richardson
2020-12-23 11:23       ` Juraj Linkeš
2021-01-04 11:52 ` [dpdk-dev] [RFC PATCH v2] " Juraj Linkeš
2021-01-04 11:59   ` Juraj Linkeš
2021-01-05 22:17     ` David Christensen
2021-01-06 14:42       ` Bruce Richardson
2021-02-19  9:11         ` Juraj Linkeš
2021-02-22 21:25           ` David Christensen
2021-02-23  8:45             ` Juraj Linkeš
2021-02-23  9:43               ` Bruce Richardson
2021-02-25 12:51                 ` Juraj Linkeš
2021-02-25 12:54                   ` Bruce Richardson
2021-02-25 12:57                     ` Juraj Linkeš [this message]
2021-03-29 11:03   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3] " Juraj Linkeš
2021-03-29 12:50     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4] " Juraj Linkeš
2021-03-31 12:16       ` Juraj Linkeš
2021-03-31 12:19         ` Juraj Linkeš
2021-03-31 12:39         ` Bruce Richardson
2021-04-15 13:32           ` Juraj Linkeš
2021-04-15 13:51             ` Bruce Richardson
2021-04-20  8:08       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5] build: use platform option for generic and native Juraj Linkeš
2021-04-20  8:16         ` Juraj Linkeš
2021-04-20  8:36           ` Thomas Monjalon
2021-04-21  8:37             ` Juraj Linkeš
2021-04-22  8:34               ` Wang, Yinan
2021-06-30 13:09         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6] build: use platform for generic and native builds Juraj Linkeš
2021-07-06  9:44           ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v7] " Juraj Linkeš
2021-07-07 13:59             ` Bruce Richardson
2021-07-09 12:30               ` Thomas Monjalon
2021-07-09 13:55                 ` Juraj Linkeš

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