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From: "Burakov, Anatoly" <anatoly.burakov@intel.com>
To: Shahaf Shuler <shahafs@mellanox.com>,
	Alejandro Lucero <alejandro.lucero@netronome.com>
Cc: Yongseok Koh <yskoh@mellanox.com>,
	Thomas Monjalon <thomas@monjalon.net>,
	 Ferruh Yigit <ferruh.yigit@intel.com>,
	"nhorman@tuxdriver.com" <nhorman@tuxdriver.com>,
	Gaetan Rivet <gaetan.rivet@6wind.com>, dev <dev@dpdk.org>
Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 0/6] introduce DMA memory mapping for external memory
Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2019 16:43:09 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <fac7cd4b-5bd4-d882-b3ac-da1c263b4012@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AM6PR0502MB3797D91847E685D47906248EC3670@AM6PR0502MB3797.eurprd05.prod.outlook.com>

On 14-Feb-19 1:41 PM, Shahaf Shuler wrote:
> Thursday, February 14, 2019 2:22 PM, Alejandro Lucero:
> 
>  >Any current NIC or device will work with virtual addresses if IOMMU is 
> in place, not matter if the device is  IOMMU-aware or not.
> 
> Not sure what you mean here. For example Intel devices works w/ VFIO and 
> use iova to provide buffers to NIC. hence protection between multiple 
> process is by application responsibility or new VFIO container.
> 

As far as VFIO is concerned, "multiprocess protection" is not a thing, 
because the device cannot be used twice in the first place - each usage 
is strictly limited to one VFIO container. We just sidestep this 
"limitation" by sharing container/device file descriptors with multiple 
processes via IPC.

So while it's technically true that multiprocess protection is 
"application responsibility" because we can pass around fd's, it's still 
protected by the kernel. IOVA mappings are per-container, so the same 
IOVA range can be mapped twice (thrice...), as long as it's for a 
different set of devices, in effect making them virtual addresses.

-- 
Thanks,
Anatoly

  reply	other threads:[~2019-02-14 16:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 79+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-02-13  9:10 Shahaf Shuler
2019-02-13  9:10 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 1/6] vfio: allow DMA map of memory for the default vfio fd Shahaf Shuler
2019-02-13  9:45   ` Gaëtan Rivet
2019-02-13 11:38     ` Gaëtan Rivet
2019-02-13 15:23     ` Shahaf Shuler
2019-02-13 14:41   ` Burakov, Anatoly
2019-02-13  9:10 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 2/6] vfio: don't fail to DMA map if memory is already mapped Shahaf Shuler
2019-02-13  9:58   ` Gaëtan Rivet
2019-02-13 19:52     ` Shahaf Shuler
2019-02-13  9:10 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 3/6] bus: introduce DMA memory mapping for external memory Shahaf Shuler
2019-02-13 11:17   ` Gaëtan Rivet
2019-02-13 19:07     ` Shahaf Shuler
2019-02-14 14:00       ` Gaëtan Rivet
2019-02-17  6:23         ` Shahaf Shuler
2019-02-13  9:10 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 4/6] net/mlx5: refactor external memory registration Shahaf Shuler
2019-02-13  9:10 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 5/6] net/mlx5: support PCI device DMA map and unmap Shahaf Shuler
2019-02-13 11:35   ` Gaëtan Rivet
2019-02-13 11:44     ` Gaëtan Rivet
2019-02-13 19:11       ` Shahaf Shuler
2019-02-14 10:21         ` Gaëtan Rivet
2019-02-21  9:21           ` Shahaf Shuler
2019-02-13  9:10 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 6/6] doc: deprecate VFIO DMA map APIs Shahaf Shuler
2019-02-13 11:43 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 0/6] introduce DMA memory mapping for external memory Alejandro Lucero
2019-02-13 19:24   ` Shahaf Shuler
2019-02-14 10:19     ` Burakov, Anatoly
2019-02-14 13:28       ` Shahaf Shuler
2019-02-14 16:19         ` Burakov, Anatoly
2019-02-17  6:18           ` Shahaf Shuler
2019-02-18 12:21             ` Burakov, Anatoly
2019-02-14 12:22     ` Alejandro Lucero
2019-02-14 12:27       ` Alejandro Lucero
2019-02-14 13:41       ` Shahaf Shuler
2019-02-14 16:43         ` Burakov, Anatoly [this message]
2019-02-21 14:50 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 " Shahaf Shuler
2019-03-05 13:59   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 " Shahaf Shuler
2019-03-10  8:27     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 " Shahaf Shuler
2019-03-10  8:27       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 1/6] vfio: allow DMA map of memory for the default vfio fd Shahaf Shuler
2019-03-30  0:23         ` Thomas Monjalon
2019-03-30  0:23           ` Thomas Monjalon
2019-03-30 14:29           ` Thomas Monjalon
2019-03-30 14:29             ` Thomas Monjalon
2019-03-10  8:27       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 2/6] vfio: don't fail to DMA map if memory is already mapped Shahaf Shuler
2019-03-10  8:28       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 3/6] bus: introduce device level DMA memory mapping Shahaf Shuler
2019-03-11 10:19         ` Burakov, Anatoly
2019-03-13  9:56         ` Thomas Monjalon
2019-03-13 11:12           ` Shahaf Shuler
2019-03-13 11:19             ` Thomas Monjalon
2019-03-13 11:47               ` Burakov, Anatoly
2019-03-30 14:36             ` Thomas Monjalon
2019-03-30 14:36               ` Thomas Monjalon
2019-03-10  8:28       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 4/6] net/mlx5: refactor external memory registration Shahaf Shuler
2019-03-10  8:28       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 5/6] net/mlx5: support PCI device DMA map and unmap Shahaf Shuler
2019-03-10  8:28       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 6/6] doc: deprecation notice for VFIO DMA map APIs Shahaf Shuler
2019-03-11 10:20         ` Burakov, Anatoly
2019-03-11 17:35           ` Rami Rosen
2019-10-01 15:20         ` David Marchand
2019-10-02  4:53           ` Shahaf Shuler
2019-10-02  7:51             ` David Marchand
2019-03-11  9:27       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 0/6] introduce DMA memory mapping for external memory Gaëtan Rivet
2019-03-30 14:40       ` Thomas Monjalon
2019-03-30 14:40         ` Thomas Monjalon
2019-03-05 13:59   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 1/6] vfio: allow DMA map of memory for the default vfio fd Shahaf Shuler
2019-03-05 13:59   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 2/6] vfio: don't fail to DMA map if memory is already mapped Shahaf Shuler
2019-03-05 13:59   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 3/6] bus: introduce device level DMA memory mapping Shahaf Shuler
2019-03-05 16:35     ` Burakov, Anatoly
2019-03-05 13:59   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 4/6] net/mlx5: refactor external memory registration Shahaf Shuler
2019-03-05 13:59   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 5/6] net/mlx5: support PCI device DMA map and unmap Shahaf Shuler
2019-03-05 13:59   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 6/6] doc: deprecation notice for VFIO DMA map APIs Shahaf Shuler
2019-02-21 14:50 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 1/6] vfio: allow DMA map of memory for the default vfio fd Shahaf Shuler
2019-02-28 11:56   ` Burakov, Anatoly
2019-02-21 14:50 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 2/6] vfio: don't fail to DMA map if memory is already mapped Shahaf Shuler
2019-02-28 11:58   ` Burakov, Anatoly
2019-02-21 14:50 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 3/6] bus: introduce device level DMA memory mapping Shahaf Shuler
2019-02-28 12:14   ` Burakov, Anatoly
2019-02-28 14:41     ` Burakov, Anatoly
2019-02-21 14:50 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 4/6] net/mlx5: refactor external memory registration Shahaf Shuler
2019-02-21 14:50 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 5/6] net/mlx5: support PCI device DMA map and unmap Shahaf Shuler
2019-02-21 14:50 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 6/6] doc: deprecate VFIO DMA map APIs Shahaf Shuler
2019-02-21 15:50   ` David Marchand

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