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From: Ferruh Yigit <ferruh.yigit@amd.com>
To: Konstantin Ananyev <konstantin.ananyev@huawei.com>,
	Dariusz Sosnowski <dsosnowski@nvidia.com>,
	"NBU-Contact-Thomas Monjalon (EXTERNAL)" <thomas@monjalon.net>,
	Andrew Rybchenko <andrew.rybchenko@oktetlabs.ru>
Cc: "dev@dpdk.org" <dev@dpdk.org>,
	Bruce Richardson <bruce.richardson@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC 0/4] ethdev: rework config restore
Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2024 23:56:54 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <fe6de95a-8e76-4c4a-8b66-0d021a1d3e4e@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <b02b69a941a9492cbfa65430ed3d64e9@huawei.com>

On 10/7/2024 10:27 AM, Konstantin Ananyev wrote:
> 
> 
>>> External email: Use caution opening links or attachments
>>>
>>>
>>> On 9/18/2024 10:21 AM, Dariusz Sosnowski wrote:
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> We have been working on optimizing the latency of calls to
>>>> rte_eth_dev_start(), on ports spawned by mlx5 PMD. Most of the work
>>>> requires changes in the implementation of
>>>> .dev_start() PMD callback, but I also wanted to start a discussion
>>>> regarding configuration restore.
>>>>
>>>> rte_eth_dev_start() does a few things on top of calling .dev_start() callback:
>>>>
>>>> - Before calling it:
>>>>     - eth_dev_mac_restore() - if device supports
>>>> RTE_ETH_DEV_NOLIVE_MAC_ADDR;
>>>> - After calling it:
>>>>     - eth_dev_mac_restore() - if device does not support
>>> RTE_ETH_DEV_NOLIVE_MAC_ADDR;
>>>>     - restore promiscuous config
>>>>     - restore all multicast config
>>>>
>>>> eth_dev_mac_restore() iterates over all known MAC addresses - stored
>>>> in rte_eth_dev_data.mac_addrs array - and calls
>>>> .mac_addr_set() and .mac_addr_add() callbacks to apply these MAC addresses.
>>>>
>>>> Promiscuous config restore checks if promiscuous mode is enabled or
>>>> not, and calls .promiscuous_enable() or .promiscuous_disable() callback.
>>>>
>>>> All multicast config restore checks if all multicast mode is enabled
>>>> or not, and calls .allmulticast_enable() or .allmulticast_disable() callback.
>>>>
>>>> Callbacks are called directly in all of these cases, to bypass the
>>>> checks for applying the same configuration, which exist in relevant APIs.
>>>> Checks are bypassed to force drivers to reapply the configuration.
>>>>
>>>> Let's consider what happens in the following sequence of API calls.
>>>>
>>>> 1. rte_eth_dev_configure()
>>>> 2. rte_eth_tx_queue_setup()
>>>> 3. rte_eth_rx_queue_setup()
>>>> 4. rte_eth_promiscuous_enable()
>>>>     - Call dev->dev_ops->promiscuous_enable()
>>>>     - Stores promiscuous state in dev->data->promiscuous 5.
>>>> rte_eth_allmulticast_enable()
>>>>     - Call dev->dev_ops->allmulticast_enable()
>>>>     - Stores allmulticast state in dev->data->allmulticast 6.
>>>> rte_eth_dev_start()
>>>>     - Call dev->dev_ops->dev_start()
>>>>     - Call dev->dev_ops->mac_addr_set() - apply default MAC address
>>>>     - Call dev->dev_ops->promiscuous_enable()
>>>>     - Call dev->dev_ops->allmulticast_enable()
>>>>
>>>> Even though all configuration is available in dev->data after step 5,
>>>> library forces reapplying this configuration in step 6.
>>>>
>>>> In mlx5 PMD case all relevant callbacks require communication with the
>>>> kernel driver, to configure the device (mlx5 PMD must create/destroy
>>>> new kernel flow rules and/or change netdev config).
>>>>
>>>> mlx5 PMD handles applying all configuration in .dev_start(), so the
>>>> following forced callbacks force additional communication with the kernel. The
>>> same configuration is applied multiple times.
>>>>
>>>> As an optimization, mlx5 PMD could check if a given configuration was
>>>> applied, but this would duplicate the functionality of the library
>>>> (for example rte_eth_promiscuous_enable() does not call the driver if
>>>> dev->data->promiscuous is set).
>>>>
>>>> Question: Since all of the configuration is available before
>>>> .dev_start() callback is called, why ethdev library does not expect .dev_start() to
>>> take this configuration into account?
>>>> In other words, why library has to reapply the configuration?
>>>>
>>>> I could not find any particular reason why configuration restore
>>>> exists as part of the process (it was in the initial DPDK commit).
>>>>
>>>
>>> My assumption is .dev_stop() cause these values reset in some devices, so
>>> .dev_start() restores them back.
>>> @Bruce or @Konstantin may remember the history.
> 
> Yep, as I remember, at least some Intel PMDs calling hw_reset() ad dec_stop() and 
> even dev_start() to make sure that HW is in a clean (known) state.
> 
>>>
>>> But I agree this is device specific behavior, and can be managed by what device
>>> requires.
> 
> Probably yes.
> 
>>>
>>>> The patches included in this RFC, propose a mechanism which would help
>>>> with managing which drivers rely on forceful configuration restore.
>>>> Drivers could advertise if forceful configuration restore is needed
>>>> through `RTE_ETH_DEV_*_FORCE_RESTORE` device flag. If this flag is
>>>> set, then the driver in question requires ethdev to forcefully restore
>>> configuration.
>>>>
>>>
>>> OK to use flag for it, but not sure about using 'dev_info->dev_flags'
>>> (RTE_ETH_DEV_*) for this, as this flag is shared with user and this is all dpdk
>>> internal.
>>>
>>> What about to have a dedicated flag for it? We can have a dedicated set of flag
>>> values for restore.
>>
>> Agreed. What do you think about the following?
> 
> Instead of exposing that, can we probably make it transparent to the user
> and probably ethdev layer too?
>

+1 to make it transparent to user, but not sure if we can make it
transparent to ethdev layer.

Suggested 'internal_flag' in "struct rte_eth_dev_data" can be confusing
and open to interpretation what to use it for and by time become source
of defect.
Instead what do you think to have a separate, dedicated data struct for it?


> Might be we can move this restoration code into the new ethdev helper function,(ethdevd_user_config_restore()  or so)
> that PMD can invoke during its dev_start() if needed?
>  
>>
>> #define RTE_ETH_DEV_INTERNAL_PROMISC_FORCE_RESTORE RTE_BIT32(0)
>> #define RTE_ETH_DEV_INTERNAL_ALLMULTI_FORCE_RESTORE RTE_BIT32(1)
>> #define RTE_ETH_DEV_INTERNAL_MAC_ADDR_FORCE_RESTORE RTE_BIT32(2)
>>
>> struct rte_eth_dev_data {
>> 	/* snip */
>>
>> 	uint32_t dev_flags;
>>
>> 	/**
>> 	 * Internal device capabilities, used only by ethdev library.
>> 	 * Certain functionalities provided by the library might enabled/disabled,
>> 	 * based on driver exposing certain capabilities.
>> 	 */
>> 	uint32_t internal_flags;
>>
>> 	/* snip */
>> };
>>
>>> Also perhaps we have go into details what needs to be restored after 'stop' and
>>> what needs to be restored after 'reset' and use similar mechanism etc...
>>
>> I think we should look into that.
>> Any 'codification' of semantics between drivers and ethdev library is good in my opinion.
>>
>> At least right now, ethdev does not change any configuration in 'stop' and 'reset' from what I see.
>> But that's on library side only.
>>
>>>> This way, if we would conclude that it makes sense for .dev_start() to
>>>> handle all starting configuration aspects, we could track which drivers still rely
>>> on configuration restore.
>>>>
>>>> Dariusz Sosnowski (4):
>>>>   ethdev: rework config restore
>>>>   ethdev: omit promiscuous config restore if not required
>>>>   ethdev: omit all multicast config restore if not required
>>>>   ethdev: omit MAC address restore if not required
>>>>
>>>>  lib/ethdev/rte_ethdev.c | 39 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++-----
>>>>  lib/ethdev/rte_ethdev.h | 18 ++++++++++++++++++
>>>>  2 files changed, 52 insertions(+), 5 deletions(-)
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> 2.39.5
>>>>
> 


  reply	other threads:[~2024-10-07 22:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-09-18  9:21 Dariusz Sosnowski
2024-09-18  9:21 ` [RFC 1/4] " Dariusz Sosnowski
2024-09-18  9:21 ` [RFC 2/4] ethdev: omit promiscuous config restore if not required Dariusz Sosnowski
2024-09-18  9:22 ` [RFC 3/4] ethdev: omit all multicast " Dariusz Sosnowski
2024-09-18  9:22 ` [RFC 4/4] ethdev: omit MAC address " Dariusz Sosnowski
2024-09-29 23:31 ` [RFC 0/4] ethdev: rework config restore Ferruh Yigit
2024-10-04 19:13   ` Dariusz Sosnowski
2024-10-07  9:27     ` Konstantin Ananyev
2024-10-07 22:56       ` Ferruh Yigit [this message]
2024-10-08 17:21         ` Konstantin Ananyev
2024-10-09  1:07           ` Ferruh Yigit
2024-10-09 10:54             ` Konstantin Ananyev
2024-10-09 16:18             ` Dariusz Sosnowski
2024-10-09 23:16               ` Ferruh Yigit
2024-10-10 12:08                 ` Dariusz Sosnowski
2024-10-10 12:51                   ` Ferruh Yigit
2024-10-10 16:23                     ` Dariusz Sosnowski
2024-10-10 17:08                       ` Ferruh Yigit
2024-10-10 22:58                         ` Konstantin Ananyev
2024-10-11  0:02                           ` Ferruh Yigit
2024-10-11  8:23                             ` Dariusz Sosnowski
2024-10-11  8:29                             ` Konstantin Ananyev
2024-10-11  9:37                               ` Dariusz Sosnowski

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