From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mga06.intel.com (mga06.intel.com [134.134.136.31]) by dpdk.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99FE02BC7 for ; Wed, 9 Nov 2016 18:48:51 +0100 (CET) Received: from fmsmga003.fm.intel.com ([10.253.24.29]) by orsmga104.jf.intel.com with ESMTP; 09 Nov 2016 09:48:34 -0800 X-ExtLoop1: 1 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.31,614,1473145200"; d="scan'208";a="784450283" Received: from irsmsx102.ger.corp.intel.com ([163.33.3.155]) by FMSMGA003.fm.intel.com with ESMTP; 09 Nov 2016 09:48:33 -0800 Received: from irsmsx108.ger.corp.intel.com ([169.254.11.210]) by IRSMSX102.ger.corp.intel.com ([169.254.2.226]) with mapi id 14.03.0248.002; Wed, 9 Nov 2016 17:48:33 +0000 From: "O'Driscoll, Tim" To: "moving@dpdk.org" Thread-Topic: Minutes from "Moving DPDK to Linux Foundation" call, November 8th Thread-Index: AdI6sKYd1KXRRWP0SaKaxF1F6tTwow== Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2016 17:48:31 +0000 Message-ID: <26FA93C7ED1EAA44AB77D62FBE1D27BA6760F60F@IRSMSX108.ger.corp.intel.com> Accept-Language: en-IE, en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-titus-metadata-40: eyJDYXRlZ29yeUxhYmVscyI6IiIsIk1ldGFkYXRhIjp7Im5zIjoiaHR0cDpcL1wvd3d3LnRpdHVzLmNvbVwvbnNcL0ludGVsMyIsImlkIjoiZDg5YzE0MjYtMjU1YS00ZjI0LTg1ODQtMzZmZTcxMmZmYjBiIiwicHJvcHMiOlt7Im4iOiJDVFBDbGFzc2lmaWNhdGlvbiIsInZhbHMiOlt7InZhbHVlIjoiQ1RQX0lDIn1dfV19LCJTdWJqZWN0TGFiZWxzIjpbXSwiVE1DVmVyc2lvbiI6IjE1LjkuNi42IiwiVHJ1c3RlZExhYmVsSGFzaCI6Imc4MXJVcmtsNUw4bURYRHZPVGNLdThRSnc4ZkMyc1cyNWhleHA1ODFOT0E9In0= x-ctpclassification: CTP_IC x-originating-ip: [163.33.239.182] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [dpdk-moving] Minutes from "Moving DPDK to Linux Foundation" call, November 8th X-BeenThere: moving@dpdk.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: DPDK community structure changes List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2016 17:48:52 -0000 Here are my notes from yesterday's call. Please feel free to correct any er= rors or to add additional details. Attendees: Amnon Ilan (Red Hat), Ed Warnicke (Cisco), Francois-Frederic Ozo= g (Linaro), Hemant Agrawal (NXP), Jan Blunck (Brocade), Jaswinder Singh (NX= P), Jerin Jacob (Cavium), Jim St. Leger (Intel), John Bromhead (Cavium), Jo= hn McNamara (Intel), Keith Wiles (Intel), Matt Spencer (ARM), Mike Dolan (L= inux Foundation), Prasun Kapoor (Cavium), Shreyansh Jain (NXP), Thomas Monj= alon (6WIND), Tim O'Driscoll (Intel), Vincent Jardin (6WIND). Note that the= re may have been others, but as people joined at different times it was dif= ficult to keep track. 1. Discussed whether to adopt a zero budget model like OVS or to pursue a b= udget/membership model. We discussed budget requirements for CI and events. For CI: - Discussed CI & performance test requirements, including the benefits of d= istributed (vendors do CI/performance tests in private in their own labs an= d publish the results in public) versus centralized (tests are run in an op= en, public lab) models. Some (including Vincent) favoured a distributed mod= el. Others (including Ed and Jim) favoured a centralized model. - More specific details of CI & performance test requirements will be discu= ssed on the ci@dpdk.org mailing list. - Approximate costs for hosting a full rack (20U) in the LF data center in = Montreal are ~$2k/month in hosting costs plus 0.5 of a Sys Admin plus (reco= mmended but not mandatory) 0.5 of a Release Manager. This gives a total of = ~$200k/year. The LF team are working on a more detailed estimate. Ed felt t= hat this estimate was on the low side and that DPDK would require a full-ti= me Release Manager based on his experiences in FD.io and other projects. For events: - Budget estimate that was created earlier in the year (see https://docs.go= ogle.com/spreadsheets/d/1-3686Xb_jf4FtxdX8Mus9UwIxUb2vI_ppmJV5GnXcLg/edit#g= id=3D302618256) included $170K for events. This covered costs for a PRC Sum= mit, a European Summit/Userspace event, and partial costs for a US Summit (= the balance to be generated via sponsorship and registration fees). - We need to explore options for co-locating our events with other networki= ng events next year. There was support for a budget/membership model from John Bromhead, Jaswind= er and Jim. There were some concerns expressed by Vincent. Overall, we agre= ed that we will require a budget for some lab resources (details TBD) and f= or events, which means we need to pursue a budget/membership model. 2. Project Charter The draft charter is at: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1x43ycfW3arJNX-= e6NQt3OVzAuNXtD7dppIhrY48FoGs/edit. People should review and comment on thi= s. Thomas expressed a concern over technical governance being kept independent= of budget. This is what we agreed in Dublin and is spelled out in section = 4.d of the charter, which specifies that the Governing Board plays no role = in technical governance for any of the DPDK projects. If people don't feel = this is sufficiently clear then we can discuss at the next meeting. Francoi= s-Frederic described the intent well - the board establishes the constituti= on, and the projects define the laws. We'll use next week's meeting to step through the comments on the charter a= nd agree on what changes we want to make. The Technical Governance section is just a skeleton at the moment. As I sai= d during the meeting, I'm not the right person to create a draft proposal f= or this. It would be great to have comments/contributions on technical gove= rnance for DPDK and also for Pktgen/SPP/DTS. Next Meeting: Tuesday November 15th at 3pm GMT/4pm CET/10am EST/7am PST) next Tuesday. Ag= enda is to review comments on the draft charter and discuss what changes we= want to make.