From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-vk0-f54.google.com (mail-vk0-f54.google.com [209.85.213.54]) by dpdk.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E86E58EF for ; Thu, 1 Dec 2016 20:44:33 +0100 (CET) Received: by mail-vk0-f54.google.com with SMTP id w194so134471380vkw.2 for ; Thu, 01 Dec 2016 11:44:33 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=linuxfoundation.org; s=google; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=YKJ1oG7NTEzvQWJzlOQVfupKVtRI0hdhBSCSnbT5nJM=; b=FKjQhBFzqwUTeRLtzyyOm6Th+bmZQbCxB3clo+/i99feQhEMM6VP+B+1GH4oj4BDsD 42F60eoz0W2MDQuClJpWBFkA+7cTiyZTuqR6MUgiS2k4NLCL1FafZGD7tPllR2dc/A11 VTc7cE2zC2LdQaW51mHEiumTHj3Cu0Bh2hmxc= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=YKJ1oG7NTEzvQWJzlOQVfupKVtRI0hdhBSCSnbT5nJM=; b=GPW93m9N+uCAbds1wkBUS8fiLjO3D7A26Wt170ARhoHuwrKf3bE4tCCcIm5NNrJFhY 2ECIN2b38rUFGUBp1XL0yywQxb4JfDf/nCXsy4pm/cXhJvlajgdO3bPcuXLkRH+YxWYf ofQfrOgfFcDlVlh91FqDv7RALzKOTAFU5rGbtrcN3ei+M/LaFfzUMLfUtEpwgN0Rg7bR iuwS0Us6RHy46YLQILv5mMmE3iiVeV1e2Owl8yUoYsQFde1R+Xpx4kWXmoam15uPYDQi i7MwZv2z9JUmsgiZwc0xjdqQq3yLFZhhbRYVe7gjdiyrfNJIFW3+kWVlgmNHz40A/jjb WZ8A== X-Gm-Message-State: AKaTC01vY84HQaXKCw/qUC/00vjyTplfJxC75xaHl8hlD8+JQv8PhrEyTbNnhhP2eme23s56rfX+//XiJJgh1BOy X-Received: by 10.31.159.143 with SMTP id i137mr13080652vke.130.1480621472814; Thu, 01 Dec 2016 11:44:32 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.176.3.79 with HTTP; Thu, 1 Dec 2016 11:44:32 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <26FA93C7ED1EAA44AB77D62FBE1D27BA67626AEE@IRSMSX108.ger.corp.intel.com> <26FA93C7ED1EAA44AB77D62FBE1D27BA676277F4@IRSMSX108.ger.corp.intel.com> <58406EC0.7000904@redhat.com> <584070FA.30606@redhat.com> From: Michael Dolan Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2016 14:44:32 -0500 Message-ID: To: Francois Ozog Cc: Dave Neary , "O'Driscoll, Tim" , "moving@dpdk.org" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a1142db2aef499a05429e0c18 Subject: Re: [dpdk-moving] Minutes from "Moving DPDK to Linux Foundation" call, November 29th X-BeenThere: moving@dpdk.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: DPDK community structure changes List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Dec 2016 19:44:33 -0000 --001a1142db2aef499a05429e0c18 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Can we setup a call next week with the counsel for the major contributors? If it's 7-9 companies this shouldn't be difficult to resolve. I hate to be difficult but this topic will not be resolved on a public mailing list unless everyone is willing to punt on the issue until there is a governing board to make the decision. I am willing to schedule and host the call. I just need the names and emails of your counsel. Please email me directly and not on the list. Thanks, Mike --- Mike Dolan VP of Strategic Programs The Linux Foundation Office: +1.330.460.3250 Cell: +1.440.552.5322 Skype: michaelkdolan mdolan@linuxfoundation.org --- On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 2:09 PM, Francois Ozog wrote: > Hello, > > please find the Linaro CLA that passed many large companies lawyers for > IP: http://opendataplane.org/contributor/individual/ > > Compnies that already signed it (not all are listed): ARM, Broadcom, > Canonical, Cavium, Cisco, Comcast, Ericsson, ENEA, Facebook, Hisilicon, H= P > Enterprise, Huawei, MontaVista, Nokia, NXP, Qualcomm, RedHat, Samsung, > Socionext, Spreadtrum, ST microelectronics, Texas Instruments, Wind River= , > ZTE > > I wonder how to read "Need for a CLA is a problem for some contributors > due to the need to get legal approval." > > Is it: "let's mask the problem to lawyers because they may NOT allow us t= o > continue our technical fun?" or is it "this is just a burden that may tak= e > long and I don't want to lose time". > > Cordially, > > FF > > On 1 December 2016 at 19:50, Dave Neary wrote: > >> >> >> On 12/01/2016 01:41 PM, Dave Neary wrote: >> >> Note that I=E2=80=99m assuming that the combination of Apache 2 and a= CLA >> isn't an option because this seems redundant as both include patent >> protection. Maybe there are other reasons that would make this a valid >> combination though. >> > >> > The Apache Software Foundation requires CLAs with copyright assignment >> > to the foundation for official Apache projects - this is to allow for >> > future license changes (an Apache v3 license), and also reflects some = of >> > the difficulties of a 30 year old project (several of the original >> > copyright holders are no longer with the project, or have died, and th= e >> > succession rights for copyright materials can sometimes result in >> > unfortunate conflicts between the estates and open source projects). >> >> A small but important correction: The ASF CLA is a grant of a broad >> copyright license which allows, among other things, the ASF to >> redistribute the software under a different license. It is not a >> copyright assignment. >> >> Thanks, >> Dave. >> >> -- >> Dave Neary - NFV/SDN Community Strategy >> Open Source and Standards, Red Hat - http://community.redhat.com >> Ph: +1-978-399-2182 / Cell: +1-978-799-3338 >> > > > > -- > [image: Linaro] > Fran=C3=A7ois-Fr=C3=A9d=C3=A9ric Ozog | *Director Linaro Networking Group= * > T: +33.67221.6485 > francois.ozog@linaro.org | Skype: ffozog > > --001a1142db2aef499a05429e0c18 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Can we setup a call next week with the counsel for the maj= or contributors? If it's 7-9 companies this shouldn't be difficult = to resolve. I hate to be difficult but this topic will not be resolved on a= public mailing list unless everyone is willing to punt on the issue until = there is a governing board to make the decision.

I am wi= lling to schedule and host the call. I just need the names and emails of yo= ur counsel. Please email me directly and not on the list.

Thanks,

Mike

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Mike Dolan
VP of Strategic Programs
The Li= nux Foundation
Office: +1.330.460.3250 =C2=A0=C2=A0Cell: +1.440.552.5322= =C2=A0Skype: michaelkdolan
mdolan@linuxfoundation.org
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On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 2:09 PM, Francois Ozo= g <francois.ozog@linaro.org> wrote:
Hello,

please find th= e Linaro CLA that passed many large companies lawyers for IP:=C2=A0http://opendataplane.org/contributor/individua= l/

Compnies that already signed it (not all ar= e listed): ARM, Broadcom, Canonical, Cavium, Cisco, Comcast, Ericsson, ENEA= , Facebook, Hisilicon, HP Enterprise, Huawei, MontaVista, Nokia, NXP, Qualc= omm, RedHat, Samsung, Socionext, Spreadtrum, ST microelectronics, Texas Ins= truments, Wind River, ZTE

I wonder how to read &qu= ot;Need for a CLA is a problem for some co= ntributors due to the need to get legal approval."

=
Is it: "let's m= ask the problem to lawyers because they may NOT allow us to continue our te= chnical fun?" or is it "this is just a burden that may take long = and I don't want to lose time".

Co= rdially,

FF
=

On 1 December 2016 at= 19:50, Dave Neary <dneary@redhat.com> wrote:


On 12/01/2016 01:41 PM, Dave Neary wrote:
>> Note that I=E2=80=99m assuming that the combination of Apache 2 an= d a CLA isn't an option because this seems redundant as both include pa= tent protection. Maybe there are other reasons that would make this a valid= combination though.
>
> The Apache Software Foundation requires CLAs with copyright assignment=
> to the foundation for official Apache projects - this is to allow for<= br> > future license changes (an Apache v3 license), and also reflects some = of
> the difficulties of a 30 year old project (several of the original
> copyright holders are no longer with the project, or have died, and th= e
> succession rights for copyright materials can sometimes result in
> unfortunate conflicts between the estates and open source projects).
A small but important correction: The ASF CLA is a grant of a broad<= br> copyright license which allows, among other things, the ASF to
redistribute the software under a different license. It is not a
copyright assignment.

Thanks,
Dave.

--
Dave Neary - NFV/SDN Community Strategy
Open Source and Standards, Red Hat - http://community.redhat.com
Ph: +1-978-399-2182 / Cell: +1-978-799-3338



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francois.ozog@linaro.org=C2=A0|=C2=A0Skype:=C2=A0ffozog
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