From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-ua0-f170.google.com (mail-ua0-f170.google.com [209.85.217.170]) by dpdk.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1751EF618 for ; Wed, 11 Jan 2017 16:12:45 +0100 (CET) Received: by mail-ua0-f170.google.com with SMTP id 35so78542273uak.1 for ; Wed, 11 Jan 2017 07:12:45 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=linuxfoundation.org; s=google; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=8iPKBscIQGG8UV8NhwwDF9C6tdy6IXF4XpwlqUz4Dyg=; b=IcCz8sQlT5fHHyo6a2ehABx2yf2oP7KQdovtQ9df4KzveZSg38Lt5cFFXbUCQXisnG nvsgHDOMusuvdVox0PE4K7MJdA+gPuWjkvvUn49Pc7Zh+TUHYJ2NUh3zJPW1uJ3Z/w8V 5cEovKSmqXxQvr2ZCXT0e/FHskqG+khSsOU3Q= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=8iPKBscIQGG8UV8NhwwDF9C6tdy6IXF4XpwlqUz4Dyg=; b=Ap4GIfbt1D1FKsmCciRMsAun793MXatHBiqemqxdOyiH2j92zHRPANn/SIpnjIzzrj Oy0GsiROBio/ElJY8JVILyMqJ7heCf3hg9rbAMY6hXbtaTMW6I3iSp/P/2EDO8rxK+vd YzkTQjYr+eVvTOqai7Y7HEqRrEh2lBThaEGsf1gEfofbCPjpEMfiLCSPU2Ef1rTJfW3q /nVzuB5hKKLYNzQc3xeUcYzmoSInQjQR5P30umfyy/yF3arop0Y+z5yT3InXxSx54doB R48XPVyZ+TcI7w+7jPAkmd7Eem6yHwzG8HtL/4j3lg5lQY9HctYpPEOmzcarkydbnqTR wp6g== X-Gm-Message-State: AIkVDXJmQSWmaPG+oKXjNPiVW9QnZpmjkg3c+kqO0v+jGQhY8S9zwkvjAl0R4/gt7aOS95S5rUxSgAMHyelH2CDL X-Received: by 10.176.66.227 with SMTP id j90mr5006454uaj.105.1484147564255; Wed, 11 Jan 2017 07:12:44 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.176.3.211 with HTTP; Wed, 11 Jan 2017 07:12:43 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <52a853cd-5f32-16ef-1c73-0742a57c12ba@6wind.com> References: <52a853cd-5f32-16ef-1c73-0742a57c12ba@6wind.com> From: Michael Dolan Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2017 10:12:43 -0500 Message-ID: To: Vincent JARDIN Cc: "O'driscoll, Tim" , "moving@dpdk.org" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=94eb2c0675e65cf5ad0545d3087d Subject: Re: [dpdk-moving] DPDK + Linux Foundation - summary of fees X-BeenThere: moving@dpdk.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: DPDK community structure changes List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2017 15:12:45 -0000 --94eb2c0675e65cf5ad0545d3087d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Hi Vincent, there's the Annual LF membership fee and the Annual DPDK participation fee. If a company is already an LF member, then there's no LF membership fee and it's just the annual DPDK participation fee. As I understand it there's been discussion that the DPDK Governing Board might want to setup a test lab. I have no idea what the requirements or cost of that would be and if it would be managed by a member (or members) or the LF. Some projects have a member who steps up to run infrastructure for a project, and some want it in the community's control. We don't care where/how it's done but if the LF is asked to do it, we have to cover our costs. Regarding a lab, this group should also consider that FD.io already has a test lab that does what I'm guessing the DPDK community wants - it would seem to me a huge waste to have largely the same companies setup two labs doing the same thing. This was a big part of my original suggestion of just working on DPDK under FD.io, but as I understand it some were uncomfortable with that. I'm not aware of the issues, but objectively looking at this from a distance I still think that would be a very wise option to consider. The infrastructure, the organization, funding and membership are already there and I think DPDK could operate fairly well on its own with perhaps some changes to the technical governance if there are concerns. I'll leave my suggestion at that for now, but I know the people funding these projects are not going to be pleased to hear they're being asked to fund two nearly identical projects. If not merging the projects, then perhaps consider at least splitting the cost of infrastructure or a test lab... As for events, if the Governing Board decides to host an event, some projects pay for events out of the membership fees and that's it, some have sponsorships or attendance fees. That's all up to the group that makes the decision. The LF has no individual "membership". We have individual supporters ( https://www.linuxfoundation.org/members/individual-supporters) but that's not the same as the legal standing of a member. We do also have an associate membership for nonprofits, government agencies, and education institutions. I hope this helps clarify, Mike --- Mike Dolan VP of Strategic Programs The Linux Foundation Office: +1.330.460.3250 Cell: +1.440.552.5322 Skype: michaelkdolan mdolan@linuxfoundation.org --- On Wed, Jan 11, 2017 at 7:21 AM, Vincent JARDIN wrote: > Mike, > > Following yesterday's call, the LF's website > https://www.linuxfoundation.org/about/bylaws > includes the fees. > > Platinum > US$ 500,000 > Gold > US$ 100,000 > Silver > US$ 20,000 (employee size greater than 5,000) > US$ 15,000 (employee size between 500 and 4,999) > US$ 10,000 (employee size between 100 and 499) > US$ 5,000 (employee size <100) > > There is no option for individuals (I do not know it it makes sense). > > It is understood that there are three annual fees for DPDK to be cumulated: > - Annual's LF fee (see the bylaws) > - + Annual's DPDK fee (TBD for both levels) > - + Annual's DPDK lab fee (TBD) > (- + DPDK events) > > Feel free to correct if I am mis-interpreting something. > > Thank you, > Vincent > --94eb2c0675e65cf5ad0545d3087d Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Vincent, there's the Annual LF membership fee and t= he Annual DPDK participation fee. If a company is already an LF member, the= n there's no LF membership fee and it's just the annual DPDK partic= ipation fee.

As I understand it there's been discuss= ion that the DPDK Governing Board might want to setup a test lab. I have no= idea what the requirements or cost of that would be and if it would be man= aged by a member (or members) or the LF. Some projects have a member who st= eps up to run infrastructure for a project, and some want it in the communi= ty's control. We don't care where/how it's done but if the LF i= s asked to do it, we have to cover our costs.=C2=A0

Regarding a lab, this group should also consider that FD.io already has a= test lab that does what I'm guessing the DPDK community wants - it wou= ld seem to me a huge waste to have largely the same companies setup two lab= s doing the same thing. This was a big part of my original suggestion of ju= st working on DPDK under FD.io, but as I understand it some were uncomforta= ble with that. I'm not aware of the issues, but objectively looking at = this from a distance I still think that would be a very wise option to cons= ider. The infrastructure, the organization, funding and membership are alre= ady there and I think DPDK could operate fairly well on its own with perhap= s some changes to the technical governance if there are concerns. I'll = leave my suggestion at that for now, but I know the people funding these pr= ojects are not going to be pleased to hear they're being asked to fund = two nearly identical projects. If not merging the projects, then perhaps co= nsider at least splitting the cost of infrastructure or a test lab...
=

As for events, if the Governing Board decides to host a= n event, some projects pay for events out of the membership fees and that&#= 39;s it, some have sponsorships or attendance fees. That's all up to th= e group that makes the decision.=C2=A0

The LF has = no individual "membership". We have individual supporters (https:/= /www.linuxfoundation.org/members/individual-supporters)=C2=A0but that&#= 39;s not the same as the legal standing of a member. We do also have an ass= ociate membership for nonprofits, government agencies, and education instit= utions.

I hope this helps clarify,

<= /div>
Mike



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Mike Dolan
VP of Strategic Programs
The Li= nux Foundation
Office: +1.330.460.3250 =C2=A0=C2=A0Cell: +1.440.552.5322= =C2=A0Skype: michaelkdolan
mdolan@linuxfoundation.org
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On Wed, Jan 11, 2017 at 7:21 AM, Vincent JAR= DIN <vincent.jardin@6wind.com> wrote:
Mike,

Following yesterday's call, the LF's website
=C2=A0 https://www.linuxfoundation.org/about/bylaws=
includes the fees.

Platinum
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 US$ 500,000
Gold
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 US$ 100,000
Silver
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 US$ 20,000 (employee size greater than 5,000)
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 US$ 15,000 (employee size between 500 and 4,999)
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 US$ 10,000 (employee size between 100 and 499)
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 US$ 5,000 (employee size <100)

There is no option for individuals (I do not know it it makes sense).

It is understood that there are three annual fees for DPDK to be cumulated:=
=C2=A0 -=C2=A0 =C2=A0Annual's LF fee (see the bylaws)
=C2=A0 - + Annual's DPDK fee (TBD for both levels)
=C2=A0 - + Annual's DPDK lab fee (TBD)
=C2=A0(- + DPDK events)

Feel free to correct if I am mis-interpreting something.

Thank you,
=C2=A0 Vincent

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