How to increase mbuf size in dpdk version 17.11

How to increase mbuf size in dpdk version 17.11

[Lombardo, Ed]

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Hi,
I have an application built with dpdk 17.11.
During initialization I want to change the mbuf size from 2K to 16K.
I want to receive packet sizes of 8K or more in one mbuf.

The VM running the application is configured to have 2G hugepages.

I tried many things and I get an error when a packet arrives.

I read online that there is #define DEFAULT_MBUF_DATA_SIZE that I changed from 2176 to ((2048*8)+128), where 128 is for headroom.
The call to rte_pktmbuf_pool_create() returns success with my changes.
From the rte_mempool_dump() - "rx_nombuf" - Total number of Rx mbuf allocation failures.  This value increments each time a packet arrives.

Is there any reference document explaining what causes this error?
Is there a user guide I should follow to make the mbuf size change, starting with the hugepage value?

Thanks,
Ed


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Re: How to increase mbuf size in dpdk version 17.11

[Stephen Hemminger]

On Tue, 1 Mar 2022 18:34:22 +0000
"Lombardo, Ed" <Ed.Lombardo@netscout.com> wrote:

> Hi,
> I have an application built with dpdk 17.11.
> During initialization I want to change the mbuf size from 2K to 16K.
> I want to receive packet sizes of 8K or more in one mbuf.
> 
> The VM running the application is configured to have 2G hugepages.
> 
> I tried many things and I get an error when a packet arrives.
> 
> I read online that there is #define DEFAULT_MBUF_DATA_SIZE that I changed from 2176 to ((2048*8)+128), where 128 is for headroom.
> The call to rte_pktmbuf_pool_create() returns success with my changes.
> From the rte_mempool_dump() - "rx_nombuf" - Total number of Rx mbuf allocation failures.  This value increments each time a packet arrives.
> 
> Is there any reference document explaining what causes this error?
> Is there a user guide I should follow to make the mbuf size change, starting with the hugepage value?
> 
> Thanks,
> Ed

Did you check that you have enough memory in the system for the larger footprint?
Using 16K per mbuf is going to cause lots of memory to be consumed.

RE: How to increase mbuf size in dpdk version 17.11

[Lombardo, Ed]

Hi Stephen,
The VM is configured to have 32 GB of memory.  
Will dpdk consume the 2GB of hugepage memory for the mbufs?  
I don't mind having less mbufs with mbuf size of 16K vs original mbuf size of 2K.

Thanks,
Ed

-----Original Message-----
From: Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org> 
Sent: Tuesday, March 1, 2022 2:57 PM
To: Lombardo, Ed <Ed.Lombardo@netscout.com>
Cc: users@dpdk.org
Subject: Re: How to increase mbuf size in dpdk version 17.11

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On Tue, 1 Mar 2022 18:34:22 +0000
"Lombardo, Ed" <Ed.Lombardo@netscout.com> wrote:

> Hi,
> I have an application built with dpdk 17.11.
> During initialization I want to change the mbuf size from 2K to 16K.
> I want to receive packet sizes of 8K or more in one mbuf.
> 
> The VM running the application is configured to have 2G hugepages.
> 
> I tried many things and I get an error when a packet arrives.
> 
> I read online that there is #define DEFAULT_MBUF_DATA_SIZE that I changed from 2176 to ((2048*8)+128), where 128 is for headroom.
> The call to rte_pktmbuf_pool_create() returns success with my changes.
> From the rte_mempool_dump() - "rx_nombuf" - Total number of Rx mbuf allocation failures.  This value increments each time a packet arrives.
> 
> Is there any reference document explaining what causes this error?
> Is there a user guide I should follow to make the mbuf size change, starting with the hugepage value?
> 
> Thanks,
> Ed

Did you check that you have enough memory in the system for the larger footprint?
Using 16K per mbuf is going to cause lots of memory to be consumed.

Re: How to increase mbuf size in dpdk version 17.11

[Cliff Burdick]

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Can you verify how many buffers you're allocating? I don't see how many
you're allocating in this thread.

On Tue, Mar 1, 2022 at 1:30 PM Lombardo, Ed <Ed.Lombardo@netscout.com>
wrote:

> Hi Stephen,
> The VM is configured to have 32 GB of memory.
> Will dpdk consume the 2GB of hugepage memory for the mbufs?
> I don't mind having less mbufs with mbuf size of 16K vs original mbuf size
> of 2K.
>
> Thanks,
> Ed
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 1, 2022 2:57 PM
> To: Lombardo, Ed <Ed.Lombardo@netscout.com>
> Cc: users@dpdk.org
> Subject: Re: How to increase mbuf size in dpdk version 17.11
>
> External Email: This message originated outside of NETSCOUT. Do not click
> links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the
> content is safe.
>
> On Tue, 1 Mar 2022 18:34:22 +0000
> "Lombardo, Ed" <Ed.Lombardo@netscout.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> > I have an application built with dpdk 17.11.
> > During initialization I want to change the mbuf size from 2K to 16K.
> > I want to receive packet sizes of 8K or more in one mbuf.
> >
> > The VM running the application is configured to have 2G hugepages.
> >
> > I tried many things and I get an error when a packet arrives.
> >
> > I read online that there is #define DEFAULT_MBUF_DATA_SIZE that I
> changed from 2176 to ((2048*8)+128), where 128 is for headroom.
> > The call to rte_pktmbuf_pool_create() returns success with my changes.
> > From the rte_mempool_dump() - "rx_nombuf" - Total number of Rx mbuf
> allocation failures.  This value increments each time a packet arrives.
> >
> > Is there any reference document explaining what causes this error?
> > Is there a user guide I should follow to make the mbuf size change,
> starting with the hugepage value?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Ed
>
> Did you check that you have enough memory in the system for the larger
> footprint?
> Using 16K per mbuf is going to cause lots of memory to be consumed.
>

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Re: How to increase mbuf size in dpdk version 17.11

[Stephen Hemminger]

On Tue, 1 Mar 2022 13:37:07 -0800
Cliff Burdick <shaklee3@gmail.com> wrote:

> Can you verify how many buffers you're allocating? I don't see how many
> you're allocating in this thread.
> 
> On Tue, Mar 1, 2022 at 1:30 PM Lombardo, Ed <Ed.Lombardo@netscout.com>
> wrote:
> 
> > Hi Stephen,
> > The VM is configured to have 32 GB of memory.
> > Will dpdk consume the 2GB of hugepage memory for the mbufs?
> > I don't mind having less mbufs with mbuf size of 16K vs original mbuf size
> > of 2K.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Ed
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org>
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 1, 2022 2:57 PM
> > To: Lombardo, Ed <Ed.Lombardo@netscout.com>
> > Cc: users@dpdk.org
> > Subject: Re: How to increase mbuf size in dpdk version 17.11
> >
> > External Email: This message originated outside of NETSCOUT. Do not click
> > links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the
> > content is safe.
> >
> > On Tue, 1 Mar 2022 18:34:22 +0000
> > "Lombardo, Ed" <Ed.Lombardo@netscout.com> wrote:
> >  
> > > Hi,
> > > I have an application built with dpdk 17.11.
> > > During initialization I want to change the mbuf size from 2K to 16K.
> > > I want to receive packet sizes of 8K or more in one mbuf.
> > >
> > > The VM running the application is configured to have 2G hugepages.
> > >
> > > I tried many things and I get an error when a packet arrives.
> > >
> > > I read online that there is #define DEFAULT_MBUF_DATA_SIZE that I  
> > changed from 2176 to ((2048*8)+128), where 128 is for headroom.  
> > > The call to rte_pktmbuf_pool_create() returns success with my changes.
> > > From the rte_mempool_dump() - "rx_nombuf" - Total number of Rx mbuf  
> > allocation failures.  This value increments each time a packet arrives.  
> > >
> > > Is there any reference document explaining what causes this error?
> > > Is there a user guide I should follow to make the mbuf size change,  
> > starting with the hugepage value?  
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Ed  
> >
> > Did you check that you have enough memory in the system for the larger
> > footprint?
> > Using 16K per mbuf is going to cause lots of memory to be consumed.

A little maths you can fill in your own values.

Assuming you want 16K of data.

You need at a minimum [1]
    num_rxq := total number of receive queues
    num_rxd := number of receive descriptors per receive queue
    num_txq := total number of transmit queues (assume all can be full)
    num_txd := number of transmit descriptors
    num_mbufs = num_rxq * num_rxd + num_txq * num_txd + num_cores * burst_size

Assuming you are using code copy/pasted from some example like l3fwd.
With 4 Rxq

    num_mbufs = 4 * 1024 + 4 * 1024 + 4 * 32 = 8320

Each mbuf element requires [2]
    elt_size = sizeof(struct rte_mbuf) + HEADROOM + mbuf_size
             = 128 + 128 + 16K = 16640

    obj_size = rte_mempool_calc_obj_size(elt_size, 0, NULL)
             = 16832

So total pool is
    num_mbufs * obj_size = 8320 * 16832 = 140,042,240 ~ 139M


[1] Some devices line bnxt need multiple buffers per packet.
[2] Often applications want additional space per mbuf for meta-data.

 

RE: How to increase mbuf size in dpdk version 17.11

[Lombardo, Ed]

Here is the output from rte_mempool_dump() after creating the mbuf " mbuf_pool_create (mbuf_seg_size=16512, nb_mbuf=32768, socket_id=0)":
 nb_mbuf_per_pool = 32768
 mb_size = 16640
 16512 * 32768 = 541,065,216

mempool <mbuf_pool_socket_0>@0x17f811400
  flags=10
  pool=0x17f791180
  iova=0x80fe11400
  nb_mem_chunks=1
  size=32768
  populated_size=32768
  header_size=64
  elt_size=16640
  trailer_size=0
  total_obj_size=16704
  private_data_size=64
  avg bytes/object=16704.000000
  internal cache infos:
    cache_size=250
    cache_count[0]=0
...
    cache_count[126]=0
    cache_count[127]=0
    total_cache_count=0
  common_pool_count=32768
  no statistics available

-----Original Message-----
From: Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org> 
Sent: Tuesday, March 1, 2022 5:46 PM
To: Cliff Burdick <shaklee3@gmail.com>
Cc: Lombardo, Ed <Ed.Lombardo@netscout.com>; users@dpdk.org
Subject: Re: How to increase mbuf size in dpdk version 17.11

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On Tue, 1 Mar 2022 13:37:07 -0800
Cliff Burdick <shaklee3@gmail.com> wrote:

> Can you verify how many buffers you're allocating? I don't see how 
> many you're allocating in this thread.
> 
> On Tue, Mar 1, 2022 at 1:30 PM Lombardo, Ed <Ed.Lombardo@netscout.com>
> wrote:
> 
> > Hi Stephen,
> > The VM is configured to have 32 GB of memory.
> > Will dpdk consume the 2GB of hugepage memory for the mbufs?
> > I don't mind having less mbufs with mbuf size of 16K vs original 
> > mbuf size of 2K.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Ed
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org>
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 1, 2022 2:57 PM
> > To: Lombardo, Ed <Ed.Lombardo@netscout.com>
> > Cc: users@dpdk.org
> > Subject: Re: How to increase mbuf size in dpdk version 17.11
> >
> > External Email: This message originated outside of NETSCOUT. Do not 
> > click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and 
> > know the content is safe.
> >
> > On Tue, 1 Mar 2022 18:34:22 +0000
> > "Lombardo, Ed" <Ed.Lombardo@netscout.com> wrote:
> >  
> > > Hi,
> > > I have an application built with dpdk 17.11.
> > > During initialization I want to change the mbuf size from 2K to 16K.
> > > I want to receive packet sizes of 8K or more in one mbuf.
> > >
> > > The VM running the application is configured to have 2G hugepages.
> > >
> > > I tried many things and I get an error when a packet arrives.
> > >
> > > I read online that there is #define DEFAULT_MBUF_DATA_SIZE that I
> > changed from 2176 to ((2048*8)+128), where 128 is for headroom.  
> > > The call to rte_pktmbuf_pool_create() returns success with my changes.
> > > From the rte_mempool_dump() - "rx_nombuf" - Total number of Rx 
> > > mbuf
> > allocation failures.  This value increments each time a packet arrives.  
> > >
> > > Is there any reference document explaining what causes this error?
> > > Is there a user guide I should follow to make the mbuf size 
> > > change,
> > starting with the hugepage value?  
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Ed
> >
> > Did you check that you have enough memory in the system for the 
> > larger footprint?
> > Using 16K per mbuf is going to cause lots of memory to be consumed.

A little maths you can fill in your own values.

Assuming you want 16K of data.

You need at a minimum [1]
    num_rxq := total number of receive queues
    num_rxd := number of receive descriptors per receive queue
    num_txq := total number of transmit queues (assume all can be full)
    num_txd := number of transmit descriptors
    num_mbufs = num_rxq * num_rxd + num_txq * num_txd + num_cores * burst_size

Assuming you are using code copy/pasted from some example like l3fwd.
With 4 Rxq

    num_mbufs = 4 * 1024 + 4 * 1024 + 4 * 32 = 8320

Each mbuf element requires [2]
    elt_size = sizeof(struct rte_mbuf) + HEADROOM + mbuf_size
             = 128 + 128 + 16K = 16640

    obj_size = rte_mempool_calc_obj_size(elt_size, 0, NULL)
             = 16832

So total pool is
    num_mbufs * obj_size = 8320 * 16832 = 140,042,240 ~ 139M


[1] Some devices line bnxt need multiple buffers per packet.
[2] Often applications want additional space per mbuf for meta-data.

 

Re: How to increase mbuf size in dpdk version 17.11

[Cliff Burdick]

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Can you paste the output of "cat /proc/meminfo"?

On Tue, Mar 1, 2022 at 5:37 PM Lombardo, Ed <Ed.Lombardo@netscout.com>
wrote:

> Here is the output from rte_mempool_dump() after creating the mbuf "
> mbuf_pool_create (mbuf_seg_size=16512, nb_mbuf=32768, socket_id=0)":
>  nb_mbuf_per_pool = 32768
>  mb_size = 16640
>  16512 * 32768 = 541,065,216
>
> mempool <mbuf_pool_socket_0>@0x17f811400
>   flags=10
>   pool=0x17f791180
>   iova=0x80fe11400
>   nb_mem_chunks=1
>   size=32768
>   populated_size=32768
>   header_size=64
>   elt_size=16640
>   trailer_size=0
>   total_obj_size=16704
>   private_data_size=64
>   avg bytes/object=16704.000000
>   internal cache infos:
>     cache_size=250
>     cache_count[0]=0
> ...
>     cache_count[126]=0
>     cache_count[127]=0
>     total_cache_count=0
>   common_pool_count=32768
>   no statistics available
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 1, 2022 5:46 PM
> To: Cliff Burdick <shaklee3@gmail.com>
> Cc: Lombardo, Ed <Ed.Lombardo@netscout.com>; users@dpdk.org
> Subject: Re: How to increase mbuf size in dpdk version 17.11
>
> External Email: This message originated outside of NETSCOUT. Do not click
> links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the
> content is safe.
>
> On Tue, 1 Mar 2022 13:37:07 -0800
> Cliff Burdick <shaklee3@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Can you verify how many buffers you're allocating? I don't see how
> > many you're allocating in this thread.
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 1, 2022 at 1:30 PM Lombardo, Ed <Ed.Lombardo@netscout.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Stephen,
> > > The VM is configured to have 32 GB of memory.
> > > Will dpdk consume the 2GB of hugepage memory for the mbufs?
> > > I don't mind having less mbufs with mbuf size of 16K vs original
> > > mbuf size of 2K.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Ed
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, March 1, 2022 2:57 PM
> > > To: Lombardo, Ed <Ed.Lombardo@netscout.com>
> > > Cc: users@dpdk.org
> > > Subject: Re: How to increase mbuf size in dpdk version 17.11
> > >
> > > External Email: This message originated outside of NETSCOUT. Do not
> > > click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and
> > > know the content is safe.
> > >
> > > On Tue, 1 Mar 2022 18:34:22 +0000
> > > "Lombardo, Ed" <Ed.Lombardo@netscout.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > > I have an application built with dpdk 17.11.
> > > > During initialization I want to change the mbuf size from 2K to 16K.
> > > > I want to receive packet sizes of 8K or more in one mbuf.
> > > >
> > > > The VM running the application is configured to have 2G hugepages.
> > > >
> > > > I tried many things and I get an error when a packet arrives.
> > > >
> > > > I read online that there is #define DEFAULT_MBUF_DATA_SIZE that I
> > > changed from 2176 to ((2048*8)+128), where 128 is for headroom.
> > > > The call to rte_pktmbuf_pool_create() returns success with my
> changes.
> > > > From the rte_mempool_dump() - "rx_nombuf" - Total number of Rx
> > > > mbuf
> > > allocation failures.  This value increments each time a packet
> arrives.
> > > >
> > > > Is there any reference document explaining what causes this error?
> > > > Is there a user guide I should follow to make the mbuf size
> > > > change,
> > > starting with the hugepage value?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Ed
> > >
> > > Did you check that you have enough memory in the system for the
> > > larger footprint?
> > > Using 16K per mbuf is going to cause lots of memory to be consumed.
>
> A little maths you can fill in your own values.
>
> Assuming you want 16K of data.
>
> You need at a minimum [1]
>     num_rxq := total number of receive queues
>     num_rxd := number of receive descriptors per receive queue
>     num_txq := total number of transmit queues (assume all can be full)
>     num_txd := number of transmit descriptors
>     num_mbufs = num_rxq * num_rxd + num_txq * num_txd + num_cores *
> burst_size
>
> Assuming you are using code copy/pasted from some example like l3fwd.
> With 4 Rxq
>
>     num_mbufs = 4 * 1024 + 4 * 1024 + 4 * 32 = 8320
>
> Each mbuf element requires [2]
>     elt_size = sizeof(struct rte_mbuf) + HEADROOM + mbuf_size
>              = 128 + 128 + 16K = 16640
>
>     obj_size = rte_mempool_calc_obj_size(elt_size, 0, NULL)
>              = 16832
>
> So total pool is
>     num_mbufs * obj_size = 8320 * 16832 = 140,042,240 ~ 139M
>
>
> [1] Some devices line bnxt need multiple buffers per packet.
> [2] Often applications want additional space per mbuf for meta-data.
>
>
>
>

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RE: How to increase mbuf size in dpdk version 17.11

[Lombardo, Ed]

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[root@vSTREAM_632 ~]# cat /proc/meminfo
MemTotal:       32778372 kB
MemFree:        15724124 kB
MemAvailable:   15897392 kB
Buffers:           18384 kB
Cached:           526768 kB
SwapCached:            0 kB
Active:           355140 kB
Inactive:         173360 kB
Active(anon):      62472 kB
Inactive(anon):    12484 kB
Active(file):     292668 kB
Inactive(file):   160876 kB
Unevictable:    13998696 kB
Mlocked:        13998696 kB
SwapTotal:       3906556 kB
SwapFree:        3906556 kB
Dirty:                76 kB
Writeback:             0 kB
AnonPages:      13986156 kB
Mapped:            95500 kB
Shmem:             16864 kB
Slab:             121952 kB
SReclaimable:      71128 kB
SUnreclaim:        50824 kB
KernelStack:        4608 kB
PageTables:        31524 kB
NFS_Unstable:          0 kB
Bounce:                0 kB
WritebackTmp:          0 kB
CommitLimit:    19247164 kB
Committed_AS:   14170424 kB
VmallocTotal:   34359738367 kB
VmallocUsed:      212012 kB
VmallocChunk:   34342301692 kB
Percpu:             2816 kB
HardwareCorrupted:     0 kB
AnonHugePages:  13228032 kB
CmaTotal:              0 kB
CmaFree:               0 kB
HugePages_Total:    1024
HugePages_Free:        0
HugePages_Rsvd:        0
HugePages_Surp:        0
Hugepagesize:       2048 kB
DirectMap4k:      104320 kB
DirectMap2M:    33449984 kB

From: Cliff Burdick <shaklee3@gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 1, 2022 10:45 PM
To: Lombardo, Ed <Ed.Lombardo@netscout.com>
Cc: Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org>; users@dpdk.org
Subject: Re: How to increase mbuf size in dpdk version 17.11

External Email: This message originated outside of NETSCOUT. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe.
Can you paste the output of "cat /proc/meminfo"?

On Tue, Mar 1, 2022 at 5:37 PM Lombardo, Ed <Ed.Lombardo@netscout.com<mailto:Ed.Lombardo@netscout.com>> wrote:
Here is the output from rte_mempool_dump() after creating the mbuf " mbuf_pool_create (mbuf_seg_size=16512, nb_mbuf=32768, socket_id=0)":
 nb_mbuf_per_pool = 32768
 mb_size = 16640
 16512 * 32768 = 541,065,216

mempool <mbuf_pool_socket_0>@0x17f811400
  flags=10
  pool=0x17f791180
  iova=0x80fe11400
  nb_mem_chunks=1
  size=32768
  populated_size=32768
  header_size=64
  elt_size=16640
  trailer_size=0
  total_obj_size=16704
  private_data_size=64
  avg bytes/object=16704.000000
  internal cache infos:
    cache_size=250
    cache_count[0]=0
...
    cache_count[126]=0
    cache_count[127]=0
    total_cache_count=0
  common_pool_count=32768
  no statistics available

-----Original Message-----
From: Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org<mailto:stephen@networkplumber.org>>
Sent: Tuesday, March 1, 2022 5:46 PM
To: Cliff Burdick <shaklee3@gmail.com<mailto:shaklee3@gmail.com>>
Cc: Lombardo, Ed <Ed.Lombardo@netscout.com<mailto:Ed.Lombardo@netscout.com>>; users@dpdk.org<mailto:users@dpdk.org>
Subject: Re: How to increase mbuf size in dpdk version 17.11

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On Tue, 1 Mar 2022 13:37:07 -0800
Cliff Burdick <shaklee3@gmail.com<mailto:shaklee3@gmail.com>> wrote:

> Can you verify how many buffers you're allocating? I don't see how
> many you're allocating in this thread.
>
> On Tue, Mar 1, 2022 at 1:30 PM Lombardo, Ed <Ed.Lombardo@netscout.com<mailto:Ed.Lombardo@netscout.com>>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Stephen,
> > The VM is configured to have 32 GB of memory.
> > Will dpdk consume the 2GB of hugepage memory for the mbufs?
> > I don't mind having less mbufs with mbuf size of 16K vs original
> > mbuf size of 2K.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Ed
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org<mailto:stephen@networkplumber.org>>
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 1, 2022 2:57 PM
> > To: Lombardo, Ed <Ed.Lombardo@netscout.com<mailto:Ed.Lombardo@netscout.com>>
> > Cc: users@dpdk.org<mailto:users@dpdk.org>
> > Subject: Re: How to increase mbuf size in dpdk version 17.11
> >
> > External Email: This message originated outside of NETSCOUT. Do not
> > click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and
> > know the content is safe.
> >
> > On Tue, 1 Mar 2022 18:34:22 +0000
> > "Lombardo, Ed" <Ed.Lombardo@netscout.com<mailto:Ed.Lombardo@netscout.com>> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > > I have an application built with dpdk 17.11.
> > > During initialization I want to change the mbuf size from 2K to 16K.
> > > I want to receive packet sizes of 8K or more in one mbuf.
> > >
> > > The VM running the application is configured to have 2G hugepages.
> > >
> > > I tried many things and I get an error when a packet arrives.
> > >
> > > I read online that there is #define DEFAULT_MBUF_DATA_SIZE that I
> > changed from 2176 to ((2048*8)+128), where 128 is for headroom.
> > > The call to rte_pktmbuf_pool_create() returns success with my changes.
> > > From the rte_mempool_dump() - "rx_nombuf" - Total number of Rx
> > > mbuf
> > allocation failures.  This value increments each time a packet arrives.
> > >
> > > Is there any reference document explaining what causes this error?
> > > Is there a user guide I should follow to make the mbuf size
> > > change,
> > starting with the hugepage value?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Ed
> >
> > Did you check that you have enough memory in the system for the
> > larger footprint?
> > Using 16K per mbuf is going to cause lots of memory to be consumed.

A little maths you can fill in your own values.

Assuming you want 16K of data.

You need at a minimum [1]
    num_rxq := total number of receive queues
    num_rxd := number of receive descriptors per receive queue
    num_txq := total number of transmit queues (assume all can be full)
    num_txd := number of transmit descriptors
    num_mbufs = num_rxq * num_rxd + num_txq * num_txd + num_cores * burst_size

Assuming you are using code copy/pasted from some example like l3fwd.
With 4 Rxq

    num_mbufs = 4 * 1024 + 4 * 1024 + 4 * 32 = 8320

Each mbuf element requires [2]
    elt_size = sizeof(struct rte_mbuf) + HEADROOM + mbuf_size
             = 128 + 128 + 16K = 16640

    obj_size = rte_mempool_calc_obj_size(elt_size, 0, NULL)
             = 16832

So total pool is
    num_mbufs * obj_size = 8320 * 16832 = 140,042,240 ~ 139M


[1] Some devices line bnxt need multiple buffers per packet.
[2] Often applications want additional space per mbuf for meta-data.



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Re: How to increase mbuf size in dpdk version 17.11

[Cliff Burdick]

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That's showing you have 0 hugepages free. Maybe they weren't passed through
to the VM properly?

On Tue, Mar 1, 2022 at 7:50 PM Lombardo, Ed <Ed.Lombardo@netscout.com>
wrote:

> [root@vSTREAM_632 ~]# cat /proc/meminfo
>
> MemTotal:       32778372 kB
>
> MemFree:        15724124 kB
>
> MemAvailable:   15897392 kB
>
> Buffers:           18384 kB
>
> Cached:           526768 kB
>
> SwapCached:            0 kB
>
> Active:           355140 kB
>
> Inactive:         173360 kB
>
> Active(anon):      62472 kB
>
> Inactive(anon):    12484 kB
>
> Active(file):     292668 kB
>
> Inactive(file):   160876 kB
>
> Unevictable:    13998696 kB
>
> Mlocked:        13998696 kB
>
> SwapTotal:       3906556 kB
>
> SwapFree:        3906556 kB
>
> Dirty:                76 kB
>
> Writeback:             0 kB
>
> AnonPages:      13986156 kB
>
> Mapped:            95500 kB
>
> Shmem:             16864 kB
>
> Slab:             121952 kB
>
> SReclaimable:      71128 kB
>
> SUnreclaim:        50824 kB
>
> KernelStack:        4608 kB
>
> PageTables:        31524 kB
>
> NFS_Unstable:          0 kB
>
> Bounce:                0 kB
>
> WritebackTmp:          0 kB
>
> CommitLimit:    19247164 kB
>
> Committed_AS:   14170424 kB
>
> VmallocTotal:   34359738367 kB
>
> VmallocUsed:      212012 kB
>
> VmallocChunk:   34342301692 kB
>
> Percpu:             2816 kB
>
> HardwareCorrupted:     0 kB
>
> AnonHugePages:  13228032 kB
>
> CmaTotal:              0 kB
>
> CmaFree:               0 kB
>
> HugePages_Total:    1024
>
> HugePages_Free:        0
>
> HugePages_Rsvd:        0
>
> HugePages_Surp:        0
>
> Hugepagesize:       2048 kB
>
> DirectMap4k:      104320 kB
>
> DirectMap2M:    33449984 kB
>
>
>
> *From:* Cliff Burdick <shaklee3@gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 1, 2022 10:45 PM
> *To:* Lombardo, Ed <Ed.Lombardo@netscout.com>
> *Cc:* Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org>; users@dpdk.org
> *Subject:* Re: How to increase mbuf size in dpdk version 17.11
>
>
>
> *External Email:* This message originated outside of NETSCOUT. Do not
> click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know
> the content is safe.
>
> Can you paste the output of "cat /proc/meminfo"?
>
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 1, 2022 at 5:37 PM Lombardo, Ed <Ed.Lombardo@netscout.com>
> wrote:
>
> Here is the output from rte_mempool_dump() after creating the mbuf "
> mbuf_pool_create (mbuf_seg_size=16512, nb_mbuf=32768, socket_id=0)":
>  nb_mbuf_per_pool = 32768
>  mb_size = 16640
>  16512 * 32768 = 541,065,216
>
> mempool <mbuf_pool_socket_0>@0x17f811400
>   flags=10
>   pool=0x17f791180
>   iova=0x80fe11400
>   nb_mem_chunks=1
>   size=32768
>   populated_size=32768
>   header_size=64
>   elt_size=16640
>   trailer_size=0
>   total_obj_size=16704
>   private_data_size=64
>   avg bytes/object=16704.000000
>   internal cache infos:
>     cache_size=250
>     cache_count[0]=0
> ...
>     cache_count[126]=0
>     cache_count[127]=0
>     total_cache_count=0
>   common_pool_count=32768
>   no statistics available
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 1, 2022 5:46 PM
> To: Cliff Burdick <shaklee3@gmail.com>
> Cc: Lombardo, Ed <Ed.Lombardo@netscout.com>; users@dpdk.org
> Subject: Re: How to increase mbuf size in dpdk version 17.11
>
> External Email: This message originated outside of NETSCOUT. Do not click
> links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the
> content is safe.
>
> On Tue, 1 Mar 2022 13:37:07 -0800
> Cliff Burdick <shaklee3@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Can you verify how many buffers you're allocating? I don't see how
> > many you're allocating in this thread.
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 1, 2022 at 1:30 PM Lombardo, Ed <Ed.Lombardo@netscout.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Stephen,
> > > The VM is configured to have 32 GB of memory.
> > > Will dpdk consume the 2GB of hugepage memory for the mbufs?
> > > I don't mind having less mbufs with mbuf size of 16K vs original
> > > mbuf size of 2K.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Ed
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, March 1, 2022 2:57 PM
> > > To: Lombardo, Ed <Ed.Lombardo@netscout.com>
> > > Cc: users@dpdk.org
> > > Subject: Re: How to increase mbuf size in dpdk version 17.11
> > >
> > > External Email: This message originated outside of NETSCOUT. Do not
> > > click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and
> > > know the content is safe.
> > >
> > > On Tue, 1 Mar 2022 18:34:22 +0000
> > > "Lombardo, Ed" <Ed.Lombardo@netscout.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > > I have an application built with dpdk 17.11.
> > > > During initialization I want to change the mbuf size from 2K to 16K.
> > > > I want to receive packet sizes of 8K or more in one mbuf.
> > > >
> > > > The VM running the application is configured to have 2G hugepages.
> > > >
> > > > I tried many things and I get an error when a packet arrives.
> > > >
> > > > I read online that there is #define DEFAULT_MBUF_DATA_SIZE that I
> > > changed from 2176 to ((2048*8)+128), where 128 is for headroom.
> > > > The call to rte_pktmbuf_pool_create() returns success with my
> changes.
> > > > From the rte_mempool_dump() - "rx_nombuf" - Total number of Rx
> > > > mbuf
> > > allocation failures.  This value increments each time a packet
> arrives.
> > > >
> > > > Is there any reference document explaining what causes this error?
> > > > Is there a user guide I should follow to make the mbuf size
> > > > change,
> > > starting with the hugepage value?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Ed
> > >
> > > Did you check that you have enough memory in the system for the
> > > larger footprint?
> > > Using 16K per mbuf is going to cause lots of memory to be consumed.
>
> A little maths you can fill in your own values.
>
> Assuming you want 16K of data.
>
> You need at a minimum [1]
>     num_rxq := total number of receive queues
>     num_rxd := number of receive descriptors per receive queue
>     num_txq := total number of transmit queues (assume all can be full)
>     num_txd := number of transmit descriptors
>     num_mbufs = num_rxq * num_rxd + num_txq * num_txd + num_cores *
> burst_size
>
> Assuming you are using code copy/pasted from some example like l3fwd.
> With 4 Rxq
>
>     num_mbufs = 4 * 1024 + 4 * 1024 + 4 * 32 = 8320
>
> Each mbuf element requires [2]
>     elt_size = sizeof(struct rte_mbuf) + HEADROOM + mbuf_size
>              = 128 + 128 + 16K = 16640
>
>     obj_size = rte_mempool_calc_obj_size(elt_size, 0, NULL)
>              = 16832
>
> So total pool is
>     num_mbufs * obj_size = 8320 * 16832 = 140,042,240 ~ 139M
>
>
> [1] Some devices line bnxt need multiple buffers per packet.
> [2] Often applications want additional space per mbuf for meta-data.
>
>
>

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Re: How to increase mbuf size in dpdk version 17.11

[Stephen Hemminger]

On Tue, 1 Mar 2022 19:56:39 -0800
Cliff Burdick <shaklee3@gmail.com> wrote:

> That's showing you have 0 hugepages free. Maybe they weren't passed through
> to the VM properly?

Which hypervisor? Not all hypervisors really support hugepages.

RE: How to increase mbuf size in dpdk version 17.11

[Lombardo, Ed]

I am using vmware hypervisor.

-----Original Message-----
From: Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org> 
Sent: Tuesday, March 1, 2022 11:41 PM
To: Cliff Burdick <shaklee3@gmail.com>
Cc: Lombardo, Ed <Ed.Lombardo@netscout.com>; users@dpdk.org
Subject: Re: How to increase mbuf size in dpdk version 17.11

External Email: This message originated outside of NETSCOUT. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe.

On Tue, 1 Mar 2022 19:56:39 -0800
Cliff Burdick <shaklee3@gmail.com> wrote:

> That's showing you have 0 hugepages free. Maybe they weren't passed 
> through to the VM properly?

Which hypervisor? Not all hypervisors really support hugepages.

Re: How to increase mbuf size in dpdk version 17.11

[Cliff Burdick]

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did you follow the instructions here:
https://docs.vmware.com/en/VMware-vCloud-NFV-OpenStack-Edition/3.0/vmwa-vcloud-nfv30-performance-tunning/GUID-1F05987F-012B-4BC4-9015-CDE3C991C68C.html
?

On Tue, Mar 1, 2022, 21:48 Lombardo, Ed <Ed.Lombardo@netscout.com> wrote:

> I am using vmware hypervisor.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 1, 2022 11:41 PM
> To: Cliff Burdick <shaklee3@gmail.com>
> Cc: Lombardo, Ed <Ed.Lombardo@netscout.com>; users@dpdk.org
> Subject: Re: How to increase mbuf size in dpdk version 17.11
>
> External Email: This message originated outside of NETSCOUT. Do not click
> links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the
> content is safe.
>
> On Tue, 1 Mar 2022 19:56:39 -0800
> Cliff Burdick <shaklee3@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > That's showing you have 0 hugepages free. Maybe they weren't passed
> > through to the VM properly?
>
> Which hypervisor? Not all hypervisors really support hugepages.
>

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RE: How to increase mbuf size in dpdk version 17.11

[Lombardo, Ed]

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Hi,
When I return to 2K mbuf size the /proc/meminfo hugepage info looks exactly the same.
HugePages_Total:    1024
HugePages_Free:        0
HugePages_Rsvd:        0
HugePages_Surp:        0
Hugepagesize:       2048 kB

I did not make any changes to the arguments to rte_eal_init() when I tried 16K mbuf configuration.

From: Cliff Burdick <shaklee3@gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 1, 2022 10:57 PM
To: Lombardo, Ed <Ed.Lombardo@netscout.com>
Cc: Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org>; users@dpdk.org
Subject: Re: How to increase mbuf size in dpdk version 17.11

External Email: This message originated outside of NETSCOUT. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe.
That's showing you have 0 hugepages free. Maybe they weren't passed through to the VM properly?

On Tue, Mar 1, 2022 at 7:50 PM Lombardo, Ed <Ed.Lombardo@netscout.com<mailto:Ed.Lombardo@netscout.com>> wrote:
[root@vSTREAM_632 ~]# cat /proc/meminfo
MemTotal:       32778372 kB
MemFree:        15724124 kB
MemAvailable:   15897392 kB
Buffers:           18384 kB
Cached:           526768 kB
SwapCached:            0 kB
Active:           355140 kB
Inactive:         173360 kB
Active(anon):      62472 kB
Inactive(anon):    12484 kB
Active(file):     292668 kB
Inactive(file):   160876 kB
Unevictable:    13998696 kB
Mlocked:        13998696 kB
SwapTotal:       3906556 kB
SwapFree:        3906556 kB
Dirty:                76 kB
Writeback:             0 kB
AnonPages:      13986156 kB
Mapped:            95500 kB
Shmem:             16864 kB
Slab:             121952 kB
SReclaimable:      71128 kB
SUnreclaim:        50824 kB
KernelStack:        4608 kB
PageTables:        31524 kB
NFS_Unstable:          0 kB
Bounce:                0 kB
WritebackTmp:          0 kB
CommitLimit:    19247164 kB
Committed_AS:   14170424 kB
VmallocTotal:   34359738367 kB
VmallocUsed:      212012 kB
VmallocChunk:   34342301692 kB
Percpu:             2816 kB
HardwareCorrupted:     0 kB
AnonHugePages:  13228032 kB
CmaTotal:              0 kB
CmaFree:               0 kB
HugePages_Total:    1024
HugePages_Free:        0
HugePages_Rsvd:        0
HugePages_Surp:        0
Hugepagesize:       2048 kB
DirectMap4k:      104320 kB
DirectMap2M:    33449984 kB

From: Cliff Burdick <shaklee3@gmail.com<mailto:shaklee3@gmail.com>>
Sent: Tuesday, March 1, 2022 10:45 PM
To: Lombardo, Ed <Ed.Lombardo@netscout.com<mailto:Ed.Lombardo@netscout.com>>
Cc: Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org<mailto:stephen@networkplumber.org>>; users@dpdk.org<mailto:users@dpdk.org>
Subject: Re: How to increase mbuf size in dpdk version 17.11

External Email: This message originated outside of NETSCOUT. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe.
Can you paste the output of "cat /proc/meminfo"?

On Tue, Mar 1, 2022 at 5:37 PM Lombardo, Ed <Ed.Lombardo@netscout.com<mailto:Ed.Lombardo@netscout.com>> wrote:
Here is the output from rte_mempool_dump() after creating the mbuf " mbuf_pool_create (mbuf_seg_size=16512, nb_mbuf=32768, socket_id=0)":
 nb_mbuf_per_pool = 32768
 mb_size = 16640
 16512 * 32768 = 541,065,216

mempool <mbuf_pool_socket_0>@0x17f811400
  flags=10
  pool=0x17f791180
  iova=0x80fe11400
  nb_mem_chunks=1
  size=32768
  populated_size=32768
  header_size=64
  elt_size=16640
  trailer_size=0
  total_obj_size=16704
  private_data_size=64
  avg bytes/object=16704.000000
  internal cache infos:
    cache_size=250
    cache_count[0]=0
...
    cache_count[126]=0
    cache_count[127]=0
    total_cache_count=0
  common_pool_count=32768
  no statistics available

-----Original Message-----
From: Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org<mailto:stephen@networkplumber.org>>
Sent: Tuesday, March 1, 2022 5:46 PM
To: Cliff Burdick <shaklee3@gmail.com<mailto:shaklee3@gmail.com>>
Cc: Lombardo, Ed <Ed.Lombardo@netscout.com<mailto:Ed.Lombardo@netscout.com>>; users@dpdk.org<mailto:users@dpdk.org>
Subject: Re: How to increase mbuf size in dpdk version 17.11

External Email: This message originated outside of NETSCOUT. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe.

On Tue, 1 Mar 2022 13:37:07 -0800
Cliff Burdick <shaklee3@gmail.com<mailto:shaklee3@gmail.com>> wrote:

> Can you verify how many buffers you're allocating? I don't see how
> many you're allocating in this thread.
>
> On Tue, Mar 1, 2022 at 1:30 PM Lombardo, Ed <Ed.Lombardo@netscout.com<mailto:Ed.Lombardo@netscout.com>>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Stephen,
> > The VM is configured to have 32 GB of memory.
> > Will dpdk consume the 2GB of hugepage memory for the mbufs?
> > I don't mind having less mbufs with mbuf size of 16K vs original
> > mbuf size of 2K.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Ed
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org<mailto:stephen@networkplumber.org>>
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 1, 2022 2:57 PM
> > To: Lombardo, Ed <Ed.Lombardo@netscout.com<mailto:Ed.Lombardo@netscout.com>>
> > Cc: users@dpdk.org<mailto:users@dpdk.org>
> > Subject: Re: How to increase mbuf size in dpdk version 17.11
> >
> > External Email: This message originated outside of NETSCOUT. Do not
> > click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and
> > know the content is safe.
> >
> > On Tue, 1 Mar 2022 18:34:22 +0000
> > "Lombardo, Ed" <Ed.Lombardo@netscout.com<mailto:Ed.Lombardo@netscout.com>> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > > I have an application built with dpdk 17.11.
> > > During initialization I want to change the mbuf size from 2K to 16K.
> > > I want to receive packet sizes of 8K or more in one mbuf.
> > >
> > > The VM running the application is configured to have 2G hugepages.
> > >
> > > I tried many things and I get an error when a packet arrives.
> > >
> > > I read online that there is #define DEFAULT_MBUF_DATA_SIZE that I
> > changed from 2176 to ((2048*8)+128), where 128 is for headroom.
> > > The call to rte_pktmbuf_pool_create() returns success with my changes.
> > > From the rte_mempool_dump() - "rx_nombuf" - Total number of Rx
> > > mbuf
> > allocation failures.  This value increments each time a packet arrives.
> > >
> > > Is there any reference document explaining what causes this error?
> > > Is there a user guide I should follow to make the mbuf size
> > > change,
> > starting with the hugepage value?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Ed
> >
> > Did you check that you have enough memory in the system for the
> > larger footprint?
> > Using 16K per mbuf is going to cause lots of memory to be consumed.

A little maths you can fill in your own values.

Assuming you want 16K of data.

You need at a minimum [1]
    num_rxq := total number of receive queues
    num_rxd := number of receive descriptors per receive queue
    num_txq := total number of transmit queues (assume all can be full)
    num_txd := number of transmit descriptors
    num_mbufs = num_rxq * num_rxd + num_txq * num_txd + num_cores * burst_size

Assuming you are using code copy/pasted from some example like l3fwd.
With 4 Rxq

    num_mbufs = 4 * 1024 + 4 * 1024 + 4 * 32 = 8320

Each mbuf element requires [2]
    elt_size = sizeof(struct rte_mbuf) + HEADROOM + mbuf_size
             = 128 + 128 + 16K = 16640

    obj_size = rte_mempool_calc_obj_size(elt_size, 0, NULL)
             = 16832

So total pool is
    num_mbufs * obj_size = 8320 * 16832 = 140,042,240 ~ 139M


[1] Some devices line bnxt need multiple buffers per packet.
[2] Often applications want additional space per mbuf for meta-data.


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