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charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-AuthAs: Internal X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-AuthSource: DM4PR12MB5167.namprd12.prod.outlook.com X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-Network-Message-Id: 43560e63-62a4-4144-5dbb-08d97f63d670 X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-originalarrivaltime: 24 Sep 2021 14:01:42.5286 (UTC) X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-fromentityheader: Hosted X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-id: 43083d15-7273-40c1-b7db-39efd9ccc17a X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-mailboxtype: HOSTED X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-userprincipalname: zkL9kdb42JDDyHMPLn4bhP1Ve896M4tWWcBrXeGlQZRrrPsjeUOKyXamx86sraOuDKrybyqFrqzLQhpOU+1NgQ== X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: DM4PR12MB5312 Subject: Re: [dpdk-users] [dpdk-web] DMARC mitigation in dpdk.org's mailing list X-BeenThere: users@dpdk.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: DPDK usage discussions <users.dpdk.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://mails.dpdk.org/options/users>, <mailto:users-request@dpdk.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://mails.dpdk.org/archives/users/> List-Post: <mailto:users@dpdk.org> List-Help: <mailto:users-request@dpdk.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://mails.dpdk.org/listinfo/users>, <mailto:users-request@dpdk.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: users-bounces@dpdk.org Sender: "users" <users-bounces@dpdk.org> > -----Original Message----- > From: Dmitry Kozlyuk <dmitry.kozliuk@gmail.com> > Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2021 8:13 PM > To: Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org> > Cc: Ali Alnubani <alialnu@nvidia.com>; announce@dpdk.org; > users@dpdk.org; web@dpdk.org > Subject: Re: [dpdk-web] [dpdk-users] DMARC mitigation in dpdk.org's > mailing list >=20 > 2021-09-23 09:53 (UTC-0700), Stephen Hemminger: > > On Thu, 23 Sep 2021 19:42:24 +0300 > > Dmitry Kozlyuk <dmitry.kozliuk@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > 2021-09-23 09:15 (UTC+0000), Ali Alnubani: > > > > [...] > > > > - Disable conversion of text/html to plain text. > > > > Mailman currently strips MIME attachments and does text/html to > plain text conversion. > > > > > > Why not just reject HTML messages? > > > > Because too much of the world uses Outlook. >=20 > That's the reason for my concern. Outlook's handling of quotes in HTML > mode is unbelievably poor. Prolonged discussion, started by a message wit= h > several points, inevitably becomes a mix of colored text inside(!) the qu= ote; > or top-posting at best. More often than not it ends with an offline discu= ssion > by voice or whatever. Which defeats the purpose of a public mailing list:= to > preserve discussions. Outlook can send plain text, so its users are not l= imited > by forbidding HTML. Hopefully, dev@ will remain as-is anyway, because > threads are usually started by a plain text patch, and Outlook inherits t= his > property for replies. DMARC authentication will still fail for plain text messages if we don't ch= ange anything for dev, because the mailing list will still alter the Subject and the Sender header= s causing signature breakage. Let's see how disabling the conversion from html to plain text goes, and we= 'll continue discussing completely rejecting html messages with the techboard.