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From: Andrew Rybchenko <andrew.rybchenko@oktetlabs.ru>
To: Ori Kam <orika@nvidia.com>,
	NBU-Contact-Thomas Monjalon <thomas@monjalon.net>
Cc: Slava Ovsiienko <viacheslavo@nvidia.com>,
	"ferruh.yigit@intel.com" <ferruh.yigit@intel.com>,
	"dev@dpdk.org" <dev@dpdk.org>,
	"ajit.khaparde@broadcom.com" <ajit.khaparde@broadcom.com>,
	"olivier.matz@6wind.com" <olivier.matz@6wind.com>,
	"jerinj@marvell.com" <jerinj@marvell.com>
Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [RFC] ethdev: add sanity packet checks
Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2021 18:27:41 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <057b06ac-6c52-3f21-9e2f-cfdd66651342@oktetlabs.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <DM6PR12MB49873F08253E2DB3AC2863E6D6929@DM6PR12MB4987.namprd12.prod.outlook.com>

On 3/9/21 6:08 PM, Ori Kam wrote:
> Hi
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: dev <dev-bounces@dpdk.org> On Behalf Of Thomas Monjalon
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 9, 2021 11:11 AM
>> Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [RFC] ethdev: add sanity packet checks
>>
>> 09/03/2021 10:01, Andrew Rybchenko:
>>> On 2/28/21 10:48 PM, Ori Kam wrote:
>>>> Currently, DPDK application can offload the checksum check,
>>>> and report it in the mbuf.
>>>>
>>>> However, this approach doesn't work if the traffic
>>>> is offloaded and should not arrive to the application.
>>>>
>>>> This commit introduces rte flow item that enables
>>>> matching on the checksum of the L3 and L4 layers,
>>>> in addition to other checks that can determine if
>>>> the packet is valid.
>>>> some of those tests can be packet len, data len,
>>>> unsupported flags, and so on.
>>>>
>>>> The full check is HW dependent.
>>>>
>>>> Signed-off-by: Ori Kam <orika@nvidia.com>
>>>
>>> In general, I strongly dislike the approach. If such checks are required,
>>> it must be done per item basis. I.e. we should add non-header boolean
>>> flags to IPv4, TCP, UDP etc items. E.g.
>>>
>>> struct rte_flow_item_ipv4 {
>>>         struct rte_ipv4_hdr hdr; /**< IPv4 header definition. */
>>>         bool hdr_checksum_valid;
>>> };
>>>
>>> Also it will allow to filter by packets with invalid checksum as well and
>>> redirect to dedicated Rx path or drop and/or count etc.
>>
>> +1
>>
> I'm not sure I understand your comment, also according to the proposed
> RFC we can redirect to the correct path.
> 
>> I think the only drawback of this solution is for HW giving a global
>> check status without knowing which header is valid or invalid.
>>
> Like Thomas remark the main drawback with adding the valid to each
> of the items is that, it forces the application to have detected rule per
> each type, which will make the SW logic more complex.
> Also this may have performance impact on the packets and on the
> number of flows.
> 

If we try to match on something which is a part of the packet header X,
it must be done in a flow item which corresponds to
protocol X. Otherwise, we have two items which overlap.
Also approach suggested in RFC break networking protocol layering and
features of different layers are mixed in one
item. What will you when you need to support tunnels? Add
inner/outer fields? Sorry, it is ugly. If valid controls are
added in protocol items, no specific efforts are required for
tunnels.

Also approach suggested in RFC requires very careful definition
what happens if a packet does not have corresponding layer but
matching on valid or invalid checksum is requested.

IMHO a vendor HW limitations are out-of-scope of the
generic API definition. May be one day I will regret about
these words, but I'm still sure that from API point of view
solution suggested by me above is better.

  reply	other threads:[~2021-03-09 15:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-02-28 19:48 Ori Kam
2021-02-28 20:14 ` Thomas Monjalon
2021-03-04 10:00   ` Ori Kam
2021-03-04 10:46     ` Thomas Monjalon
2021-03-07 18:46       ` Ori Kam
2021-03-08 23:05         ` Ajit Khaparde
2021-03-09 19:21           ` Ori Kam
2021-03-09  9:01 ` Andrew Rybchenko
2021-03-09  9:11   ` Thomas Monjalon
2021-03-09 15:08     ` Ori Kam
2021-03-09 15:27       ` Andrew Rybchenko [this message]
2021-03-09 19:46         ` Ori Kam

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