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From: Thomas Monjalon <thomas@monjalon.net>
To: "Dumitrescu, Cristian" <cristian.dumitrescu@intel.com>
Cc: "Singh, Jasvinder" <jasvinder.singh@intel.com>,
	dev@dpdk.org, "Yigit, Ferruh" <ferruh.yigit@intel.com>,
	"hemant.agrawal@nxp.com" <hemant.agrawal@nxp.com>,
	"Jerin.JacobKollanukkaran@cavium.com"
	<Jerin.JacobKollanukkaran@cavium.com>,
	"Lu, Wenzhuo" <wenzhuo.lu@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 0/2] net/softnic: sw fall-back for traffic management
Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2017 15:59:51 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1864257.RH1pdGjOGJ@xps> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3EB4FA525960D640B5BDFFD6A3D891267BA669D7@IRSMSX108.ger.corp.intel.com>

08/06/2017 15:27, Dumitrescu, Cristian:
> Hi Thomas,
> 
> Thanks for reviewing this patch set!
> 
> From: Thomas Monjalon [mailto:thomas@monjalon.net]
> > 
> > Hi Jasvinder,
> > 
> > 26/05/2017 20:11, Jasvinder Singh:
> > > The SoftNIC PMD provides SW fall-back option for the NICs not supporting
> > > the Traffic Management (TM) features.
> > 
> > Do you mean that you want to stack PMDs in order to offer some fallbacks?
> > It means the user needs to instantiate this PMD for each HW which does
> > not support traffic management, instead of normal hardware probing?
> > 
> 
> No, the normal HW probing still takes place for the HW device. Then if QoS "probing" fails, the user can decide to create a new virtual device on top of the HW device.

What do you mean by "QoS probing"?

> > > SoftNIC PMD overview:
> > > - The SW fall-back is based on the existing librte_sched DPDK library.
> > > - The TM-agnostic port (the underlay device) is wrapped into a TM-aware
> > >   softnic port (the overlay device).
> > > - Once the overlay device (virtual device) is created, the configuration of
> > >   the underlay device is taking place through the overlay device.
> > > - The SoftNIC PMD is generic, i.e. it works for any underlay device PMD that
> > >   implements the ethdev API.
> > 
> > Why not calling librte_sched directly in ethdev for PMDs which do not
> > implement hardware offload?
> > Am I missing something obvious?
> 
> Yes, we are calling the librte_sched in ethdev, but how else can we do it?

If you call librte_sched from ethdev, that's fine.
We don't need more, do we?

> 	- We cannot change the ethdev ops of the HW device PMD because same might be used by other HW devices in the system where TM feature is not required.
> 	- We cannot change the ethdev ops of the current HW device, as on-the-fly changes of the ops structure are not allowed, right?

Right

> 	- We can create a new virtual device on top of existing HW device to inherit most of the ethdev ops of the HW device and patch some specific ethdev ops with librte_sched.
> 
> IMHO there aren't two different ways to do this.

When initializing a HW device, it can (should) reports its TM capabilities.
Then ethdev can decide to use a SW fallback if a capability is missing.

  reply	other threads:[~2017-06-08 13:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 79+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-05-26 18:11 Jasvinder Singh
2017-05-26 18:11 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 1/2] net/softnic: add softnic PMD " Jasvinder Singh
2017-06-26 16:43   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 0/2] net/softnic: sw fall-back " Jasvinder Singh
2017-06-26 16:43     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 1/2] net/softnic: add softnic PMD " Jasvinder Singh
2017-08-11 12:49       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 0/4] net/softnic: sw fall-back pmd for traffic mgmt and others Jasvinder Singh
2017-08-11 12:49         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 1/4] net/softnic: add softnic PMD Jasvinder Singh
2017-09-05 14:53           ` Ferruh Yigit
2017-09-08  9:30             ` Singh, Jasvinder
2017-09-08  9:48               ` Ferruh Yigit
2017-09-08 10:42                 ` Singh, Jasvinder
2017-09-18  9:10           ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 0/4] net/softnic: sw fall-back pmd for traffic mgmt and others Jasvinder Singh
2017-09-18  9:10             ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 1/4] net/softnic: add softnic PMD Jasvinder Singh
2017-09-18 16:58               ` Singh, Jasvinder
2017-09-18 19:09                 ` Thomas Monjalon
2017-09-18  9:10             ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 2/4] net/softnic: add traffic management support Jasvinder Singh
2017-09-25  1:58               ` Lu, Wenzhuo
2017-09-28  8:14                 ` Singh, Jasvinder
2017-09-29 14:04               ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 0/5] net/softnic: sw fall-back pmd for traffic mgmt and others Jasvinder Singh
2017-09-29 14:04                 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 1/5] net/softnic: add softnic PMD Jasvinder Singh
2017-09-29 14:04                 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 2/5] net/softnic: add traffic management support Jasvinder Singh
2017-10-06 16:59                   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 0/5] net/softnic: sw fall-back pmd for traffic mgmt and others Jasvinder Singh
2017-10-06 16:59                     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 1/5] net/softnic: add softnic PMD Jasvinder Singh
2017-10-09 12:58                       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v7 0/5] net/softnic: sw fall-back pmd for traffic mgmt and others Jasvinder Singh
2017-10-09 12:58                         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v7 1/5] net/softnic: add softnic PMD Jasvinder Singh
2017-10-09 20:18                           ` Ferruh Yigit
2017-10-10 10:08                             ` Singh, Jasvinder
2017-10-10 10:18                           ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v8 0/5] net/softnic: sw fall-back pmd for traffic mgmt and others Jasvinder Singh
2017-10-10 10:18                             ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v8 1/5] net/softnic: add softnic PMD Jasvinder Singh
2017-10-11 23:18                               ` Thomas Monjalon
2017-10-12  8:22                                 ` Singh, Jasvinder
2017-10-10 10:18                             ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v8 2/5] net/softnic: add traffic management support Jasvinder Singh
2017-10-10 10:18                             ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v8 3/5] net/softnic: add TM capabilities ops Jasvinder Singh
2017-10-10 10:18                             ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v8 4/5] net/softnic: add TM hierarchy related ops Jasvinder Singh
2017-10-10 10:18                             ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v8 5/5] app/testpmd: add traffic management forwarding mode Jasvinder Singh
2017-10-10 18:24                               ` Ferruh Yigit
2017-10-10 18:31                             ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v8 0/5] net/softnic: sw fall-back pmd for traffic mgmt and others Ferruh Yigit
2017-10-10 19:09                               ` Singh, Jasvinder
2017-10-09 12:58                         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v7 2/5] net/softnic: add traffic management support Jasvinder Singh
2017-10-09 12:58                         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v7 3/5] net/softnic: add TM capabilities ops Jasvinder Singh
2017-10-09 12:58                         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v7 4/5] net/softnic: add TM hierarchy related ops Jasvinder Singh
2017-10-09 12:58                         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v7 5/5] app/testpmd: add traffic management forwarding mode Jasvinder Singh
2017-10-09 20:17                           ` Ferruh Yigit
2017-10-10 10:07                             ` Singh, Jasvinder
2017-10-06 17:00                     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 2/5] net/softnic: add traffic management support Jasvinder Singh
2017-10-06 17:00                     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 3/5] net/softnic: add TM capabilities ops Jasvinder Singh
2017-10-06 17:00                     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 4/5] net/softnic: add TM hierarchy related ops Jasvinder Singh
2017-10-06 17:00                     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 5/5] app/testpmd: add traffic management forwarding mode Jasvinder Singh
2017-10-06 18:57                     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 0/5] net/softnic: sw fall-back pmd for traffic mgmt and others Ferruh Yigit
2017-10-09 11:32                       ` Singh, Jasvinder
2017-09-29 14:04                 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 3/5] net/softnic: add TM capabilities ops Jasvinder Singh
2017-09-29 14:04                 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 4/5] net/softnic: add TM hierarchy related ops Jasvinder Singh
2017-09-29 14:04                 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 5/5] app/testpmd: add traffic management forwarding mode Jasvinder Singh
2017-09-18  9:10             ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 3/4] net/softnic: add TM capabilities ops Jasvinder Singh
2017-09-25  2:33               ` Lu, Wenzhuo
2017-09-28  8:16                 ` Singh, Jasvinder
2017-09-18  9:10             ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 4/4] net/softnic: add TM hierarchy related ops Jasvinder Singh
2017-09-25  7:14               ` Lu, Wenzhuo
2017-09-28  8:39                 ` Singh, Jasvinder
2017-09-20 15:35             ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 0/4] net/softnic: sw fall-back pmd for traffic mgmt and others Thomas Monjalon
2017-09-22 22:07               ` Singh, Jasvinder
2017-10-06 10:40               ` Dumitrescu, Cristian
2017-10-06 12:13                 ` Thomas Monjalon
2017-08-11 12:49         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 2/4] net/softnic: add traffic management support Jasvinder Singh
2017-08-11 12:49         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 3/4] net/softnic: add TM capabilities ops Jasvinder Singh
2017-08-11 12:49         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 4/4] net/softnic: add TM hierarchy related ops Jasvinder Singh
2017-09-08 17:08         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 0/4] net/softnic: sw fall-back pmd for traffic mgmt and others Dumitrescu, Cristian
2017-06-26 16:43     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 2/2] net/softnic: add traffic management ops Jasvinder Singh
2017-05-26 18:11 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH " Jasvinder Singh
2017-06-07 14:32 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 0/2] net/softnic: sw fall-back for traffic management Thomas Monjalon
2017-06-08 13:27   ` Dumitrescu, Cristian
2017-06-08 13:59     ` Thomas Monjalon [this message]
2017-06-08 15:27       ` Dumitrescu, Cristian
2017-06-08 16:16         ` Thomas Monjalon
2017-06-08 16:43           ` Dumitrescu, Cristian
2017-07-04 23:48             ` Thomas Monjalon
2017-07-05  9:32               ` Dumitrescu, Cristian
2017-07-05 10:17                 ` Thomas Monjalon
2017-08-11 15:28 ` Stephen Hemminger
2017-08-11 16:22   ` Dumitrescu, Cristian

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