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From: Bruce Richardson <bruce.richardson@intel.com>
To: Jay Rolette <rolette@infiniteio.com>
Cc: DPDK <dev@dpdk.org>, Avi Kivity <avi@scylladb.com>
Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 1/3] kcp: add kernel control path kernel module
Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2016 22:40:24 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160301224023.GA30516@bricha3-MOBL3> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CADNuJVof3FmLHsJG2MkViLpF0dr28PB6NZdVC7=vB+ZExHfO3w@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 08:33:25AM -0600, Jay Rolette wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 5:06 AM, Thomas Monjalon <thomas.monjalon@6wind.com>
> wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> > I totally agree with Avi's comments.
> > This topic is really important for the future of DPDK.
> > So I think we must give some time to continue the discussion
> > and have netdev involved in the choices done.
> > As a consequence, these series should not be merged in the release 16.04.
> > Thanks for continuing the work.
> >
> 
> I know you guys are very interested in getting rid of the out-of-tree
> drivers, but please do not block incremental improvements to DPDK in the
> meantime. Ferruh's patch improves the usability of KNI. Don't throw out
> good and useful enhancements just because it isn't where you want to be in
> the end.
> 
> I'd like to see these be merged.
> 
> Jay

+1 to this. While this may not eliminate out of tree kernel modules, and solve
all problems, I think taking in kcp and kdp and removing KNI will leave DPDK in
a better state than it was.

Also, with regards to having the kernel data path, and the port control part
inside the same module, our experience with KNI has led us to explicitly
separating them out. The path from user to kernel space should be completely
separated from the netdevs which back dpdk ports. Consider stats reporting alone:
netdevs backed by dpdk ports can report out packet rx/tx counts for the hw ports
while the user-kernel path can report out packet rx/tx from kernel.

	Regards,
	/Bruce

  reply	other threads:[~2016-03-01 22:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <1453911849-16562-1-git-send-email-ferruh.yigit@intel.com>
2016-01-27 16:24 ` Ferruh Yigit
2016-01-28  9:49   ` Remy Horton
2016-01-28 13:50     ` Ferruh Yigit
2016-02-28 15:34   ` Avi Kivity
2016-02-28 20:16     ` Ferruh Yigit
2016-02-29  9:43       ` Avi Kivity
2016-02-29 10:43         ` Ferruh Yigit
2016-02-29 10:58           ` Avi Kivity
2016-02-29 11:06             ` Thomas Monjalon
2016-02-29 11:35               ` Ferruh Yigit
2016-02-29 15:05                 ` Ferruh Yigit
2016-02-29 15:19                 ` Panu Matilainen
2016-02-29 15:27                   ` Thomas Monjalon
2016-02-29 16:04                     ` Panu Matilainen
2016-02-29 14:33               ` Jay Rolette
2016-03-01 22:40                 ` Bruce Richardson [this message]
2016-03-02  2:02                 ` Stephen Hemminger
2016-03-02  8:27                   ` Panu Matilainen
2016-03-02 10:47                     ` Vincent JARDIN
2016-03-02 10:51                       ` Jim Thompson
2016-03-02 12:03                         ` Vincent JARDIN
2016-03-02 22:51                           ` Jim Thompson
2016-03-02 11:21                       ` Thomas Monjalon
2016-03-02 22:35                         ` Thomas Monjalon
2016-03-03  8:31                           ` Panu Matilainen
2016-03-03 10:05                             ` Ferruh Yigit
2016-03-03 10:11                               ` Thomas Monjalon
2016-03-03 10:51                               ` Panu Matilainen
2016-03-10  0:04                           ` Thomas Monjalon
2016-03-10  6:31                             ` Vincent JARDIN
2016-03-02 22:18                   ` Jay Rolette
2016-03-03 10:11                     ` Ferruh Yigit
2016-03-03 16:59                       ` Stephen Hemminger
2016-03-03 18:18                         ` Ferruh Yigit
2016-02-29 11:27             ` Ferruh Yigit
2016-02-29 11:39               ` Avi Kivity
2016-02-29 14:35                 ` Ferruh Yigit
2016-02-29 20:11   ` Stephen Hemminger
2016-03-01  0:35     ` Ferruh Yigit
2016-01-27 16:24 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 2/3] rte_ctrl_if: add control interface library Ferruh Yigit
2016-01-28 11:14   ` Remy Horton
2016-01-28 13:15     ` Ferruh Yigit
2016-01-28 13:24       ` Jay Rolette
2016-01-28 13:56         ` Ferruh Yigit
2016-01-28 13:57       ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2016-01-28 14:22         ` Yigit, Ferruh
2016-01-27 16:24 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 3/3] examples/ethtool: add control interface support to the application Ferruh Yigit
2016-02-12 13:45 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 0/3] Use common Linux tools to control DPDK ports Ferruh Yigit
2016-02-12 13:45   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 1/3] kcp: add kernel control path kernel module Ferruh Yigit
2016-02-12 13:45   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 2/3] rte_ctrl_if: add control interface library Ferruh Yigit
2016-02-17 19:58     ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2016-02-18 10:43       ` Yigit, Ferruh
2016-02-12 13:45   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 3/3] examples/ethtool: add control interface support to the application Ferruh Yigit
2016-02-17 19:39     ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2016-02-18 10:11       ` Yigit, Ferruh
2016-02-26 14:10   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 0/4] Use common Linux tools to control DPDK ports Ferruh Yigit
2016-02-26 14:10     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 1/4] lib/librte_ethtool: move librte_ethtool form examples to lib folder Ferruh Yigit
2016-02-26 14:10     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 2/4] kcp: add kernel control path kernel module Ferruh Yigit
2016-03-01  1:02       ` Stephen Hemminger
2016-03-01 15:53         ` Ferruh Yigit
2016-02-26 14:10     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 3/4] rte_ctrl_if: add control interface library Ferruh Yigit
2016-02-26 14:10     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 4/4] examples/ethtool: add control interface support to the application Ferruh Yigit
2016-02-29  9:33     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 0/4] Use common Linux tools to control DPDK ports Remy Horton
2016-03-01 15:41     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 " Ferruh Yigit
2016-03-01 15:41       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 1/4] lib/librte_ethtool: move librte_ethtool form examples to lib folder Ferruh Yigit
2016-03-01 15:41       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 2/4] kcp: add kernel control path kernel module Ferruh Yigit
2016-03-01 23:06         ` Stephen Hemminger
2016-03-02 11:05           ` Ferruh Yigit
2016-03-01 23:09         ` Stephen Hemminger
2016-03-01 23:10         ` Stephen Hemminger
2016-03-02 11:06           ` Ferruh Yigit
2016-03-01 15:41       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 3/4] rte_ctrl_if: add control interface library Ferruh Yigit
2016-03-01 15:42       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 4/4] examples/ethtool: add control interface support to the application Ferruh Yigit
2016-03-09 11:41       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 0/4] Use common Linux tools to control DPDK ports Ferruh Yigit
2016-03-09 11:41         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 1/4] lib/librte_ethtool: move librte_ethtool form examples to lib folder Ferruh Yigit
2016-03-09 11:41         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 2/4] kcp: add kernel control path kernel module Ferruh Yigit
2016-03-09 11:41         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 3/4] rte_ctrl_if: add control interface library Ferruh Yigit
2016-03-09 11:41         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 4/4] examples/ethtool: add control interface support to the application Ferruh Yigit
2016-03-09 12:23           ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2016-03-14 15:31         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 0/4] Use common Linux tools to control DPDK ports Ferruh Yigit
2016-03-14 17:40           ` Jay Rolette
2016-03-15  0:00             ` Ferruh Yigit

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