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From: Neil Horman <nhorman@tuxdriver.com>
To: Thomas Monjalon <thomas.monjalon@6wind.com>
Cc: dev@dpdk.org, Bruce Richardson <bruce.richardson@intel.com>,
	Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org>,
	Panu Matilainen <pmatilai@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv6 1/7] pmdinfogen: Add buildtools and pmdinfogen utility
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2016 09:49:48 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160607134948.GB13025@neilslaptop.think-freely.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2621975.1tT4ekXN2H@xps13>

On Tue, Jun 07, 2016 at 03:24:55PM +0200, Thomas Monjalon wrote:
> 2016-06-07 09:03, Neil Horman:
> > On Tue, Jun 07, 2016 at 02:53:36PM +0200, Thomas Monjalon wrote:
> > > 2016-06-07 08:04, Neil Horman:
> > > > On Tue, Jun 07, 2016 at 11:57:42AM +0200, Thomas Monjalon wrote:
> > > > > 2016-05-31 09:57, Neil Horman:
> > > > > > +++ b/buildtools/Makefile
> > > > > > @@ -0,0 +1,36 @@
> > > > > > +#   BSD LICENSE
> > > > > > +#
> > > > > > +#   Copyright(c) 2010-2014 Intel Corporation. All rights reserved.
> > > > > > +#   All rights reserved.
> > > > > 
> > > > > I really think it is a strange copyright for a new empty file.
> > > > > 
> > > > Its not empty, It lists the subdirectories to build.  And given that the DPDK is
> > > > licensed under multiple licenses (BSD/GPL/LGPL), it introduces confusion to not
> > > > call out the license in a specific file, file size is really irrelevant to that.
> > > 
> > > Neil, please take a drink :)
> > > I'm not talking about license but about copyright.
> > > Don't you think it's strange to put "2010-2014 Intel" copyright on top of
> > > the few lines you wrote?
> > >  
> > Ah, yes, I copied the file, so the copyright years are wrong, so that should be
> > fixed.
> 
> Not only the years, the copyright holder should be you or your company.
> 
> > That said, you asked if it was strange to put a copyright on an empty file, and
> > the answer is no, because its not empty, and it nees a copyright for clarity :)
> 
> Of course, yes.
> 
> > > > > > --- /dev/null
> > > > > > +++ b/mk/rte.buildtools.mk
> > > > > 
> > > > > I'm sorry I really do not agree it is a good practice to create a new
> > > > > makefile type just for a new directory.
> > > > > My opinion is that you should use and improve rte.hostapp.mk to make
> > > > > it usable for possible other host apps.
> > > > > 
> > > > I am so exhausted by this argument.
> > > > 
> > > > They are the same file Thomas.  I'm not sure how you don't see that.  I've
> > > > explained to you that they are, with the exception of whitespace noise,
> > > > identical.  buildtools is a better nomenclature because it more closely
> > > > describes what is being built at the moment.  The only reason we still have
> > > > hostapp is because you didn't remove it when you removed the applications that,
> > > > in your own words from the commit log, are "useless".  The argument that we
> > > > should keep the build file, and its naming convention on the off chance that
> > > > someone might use it in the future really doesn't hold water with me, at least
> > > > not to the point that, when we have something that duplicates its function we
> > > > should do anything other than take the path of least resistance to make it work.
> > > > I'm not sure how you expected anyone to know there is a makefile in place in the
> > > > DPDK to build local application, when there are currently no applications in
> > > > place, but asking people to use it after the fact is really just the height of
> > > > busywork.  If it was already building other utilities, I'd feel differently, but
> > > > given that its just sitting there, a vestigual file, makes this all just silly.
> > > > 
> > > > But clearly, this isn't going to be done until I do what you want, regardless of
> > > > what either of us think of it, So I'll make the change.
> > > 
> > > You can keep it as is if you find someone else to say that having a makefile
> > > template named and specific to only the buildtools usage is fine.
> > > And no, it is not identical to rte.hostapp.mk.
> > > But I was probably not clear enough:
> > > I do not like rte.hostapp.mk. I just like its explicit name.
> > > I see the same issue in rte.hostapp.mk and rte.buildtools.mk: they should be
> > > build in the app/ subdir like any other app.
> > > 
> > > So my suggestion is to replace rte.hostapp.mk with your implementation in
> > > a separate patch with the build path changed to app/ instead of hostapp/ or
> > > buildtools/.
> > > 
> > Soo, I'm confused now.  You don't want rte.buildtools.mk, and you don't really
> > want rte.hostapp.mk, you want a different makefile, that just builds to the /app
> > subdirectory?
> 
> The apps and examples use rte.app.mk to build a DPDK app.
> Here you make a standard app, without DPDK dependency, to run on the host.
> So you cannot use rte.app.mk. I think rte.hostapp.mk is not a so bad name
> (I have no better one).
> About the build directory, the app/ one looks OK, no need to put a reference
> to buildtools which is just the user of this makefile.
> Except these considerations, the content of your makefile is probably good.
> 

Sooo....you do actually want to just use the hostapp makefile, because you like
the name, and don't like mine, and you want to just dump the output into the
same app directory that all the dpdk examples get written to, because it looks
ok to you? 

Fine, whatever, I'm tired of arguing.
Neil

  reply	other threads:[~2016-06-07 13:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 166+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-05-16 20:41 [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 0/4] Implement pmd hardware support exports Neil Horman
2016-05-16 20:41 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 1/4] pmdinfo: Add buildtools and pmdinfo utility Neil Horman
2016-05-16 20:41 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 2/4] drivers: Update driver registration macro usage Neil Horman
2016-05-16 20:41 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 3/4] Makefile: Do post processing on objects that register a driver Neil Horman
2016-05-16 20:41 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 4/4] pmd_hw_support.py: Add tool to query binaries for hw support information Neil Horman
2016-05-18 11:48   ` Panu Matilainen
2016-05-18 12:03     ` Neil Horman
2016-05-18 12:48       ` Panu Matilainen
2016-05-18 13:48         ` Neil Horman
2016-05-19  6:08           ` Panu Matilainen
2016-05-19 13:26             ` Neil Horman
2016-05-20  7:30               ` Panu Matilainen
2016-05-20 14:06                 ` Neil Horman
2016-05-23 11:56                   ` Panu Matilainen
2016-05-23 13:55                     ` Neil Horman
2016-05-24  6:15                       ` Panu Matilainen
2016-05-24 14:55                         ` Neil Horman
2016-05-18 12:38     ` Thomas Monjalon
2016-05-18 13:09       ` Panu Matilainen
2016-05-18 13:26         ` Thomas Monjalon
2016-05-18 13:54           ` Neil Horman
2016-05-18 21:08 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv2 0/4] Implement pmd hardware support exports Neil Horman
2016-05-18 21:08   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv2 1/4] pmdinfogen: Add buildtools and pmdinfogen utility Neil Horman
2016-05-19  7:51     ` Panu Matilainen
2016-05-19 12:00       ` Neil Horman
2016-05-18 21:08   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv2 2/4] drivers: Update driver registration macro usage Neil Horman
2016-05-19  7:58     ` Panu Matilainen
2016-05-19 10:45       ` Neil Horman
2016-05-19 10:51     ` [dpdk-dev] [dpdk-dev, PATCHv2, " Jan Viktorin
     [not found]     ` <20160519124650.060aa09a@pcviktorin.fit.vutbr.cz>
2016-05-19 11:40       ` Neil Horman
2016-05-18 21:08   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv2 3/4] Makefile: Do post processing on objects that register a driver Neil Horman
2016-05-18 21:08   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv2 4/4] pmdinfo.py: Add tool to query binaries for hw and other support information Neil Horman
2016-05-19  9:02     ` Panu Matilainen
2016-05-19 12:00       ` Neil Horman
2016-05-20  5:22         ` Panu Matilainen
2016-05-20  8:55           ` Thomas Monjalon
2016-05-20  9:12             ` Panu Matilainen
2016-05-20 14:22             ` Neil Horman
2016-05-20 14:20           ` Neil Horman
2016-05-20 17:24 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv3 0/5] Implement pmd hardware support exports Neil Horman
2016-05-20 17:24   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv3 1/5] pmdinfogen: Add buildtools and pmdinfogen utility Neil Horman
2016-05-20 17:24   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv3 2/5] drivers: Update driver registration macro usage Neil Horman
2016-05-24  6:57     ` Panu Matilainen
2016-05-24 13:21       ` Neil Horman
2016-05-20 17:24   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv3 3/5] eal: Add an export symbol to expose the autoload path to external tools Neil Horman
2016-05-20 17:24   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv3 4/5] Makefile: Do post processing on objects that register a driver Neil Horman
2016-05-20 17:24   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv3 5/5] pmdinfo.py: Add tool to query binaries for hw and other support information Neil Horman
2016-05-24  7:41     ` Panu Matilainen
2016-05-24 15:17       ` Neil Horman
2016-05-24  8:34     ` Panu Matilainen
2016-05-24 19:41 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv4 0/5] Implement pmd hardware support exports Neil Horman
2016-05-24 19:41   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv4 1/5] pmdinfogen: Add buildtools and pmdinfogen utility Neil Horman
2016-05-25 13:21     ` Thomas Monjalon
2016-05-25 17:22       ` Neil Horman
2016-05-25 17:39         ` Thomas Monjalon
2016-05-25 19:13           ` Neil Horman
2016-05-25 19:39             ` Thomas Monjalon
2016-05-25 19:57               ` Neil Horman
2016-05-24 19:41   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv4 2/5] drivers: Update driver registration macro usage Neil Horman
2016-05-25 16:20     ` Thomas Monjalon
2016-05-25 17:35       ` Neil Horman
2016-05-24 19:41   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv4 3/5] eal: Add an export symbol to expose the autoload path to external tools Neil Horman
2016-05-24 19:41   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv4 4/5] Makefile: Do post processing on objects that register a driver Neil Horman
2016-05-25 17:08     ` Thomas Monjalon
2016-05-25 17:40       ` Neil Horman
2016-05-25 18:56         ` Thomas Monjalon
2016-05-25 19:43           ` Neil Horman
2016-05-25 20:04             ` Thomas Monjalon
2016-05-25 20:16               ` Neil Horman
2016-05-24 19:41   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv4 5/5] pmdinfo.py: Add tool to query binaries for hw and other support information Neil Horman
2016-05-25 17:22     ` Thomas Monjalon
2016-05-25 17:47       ` Neil Horman
2016-05-25 18:58         ` Thomas Monjalon
2016-05-27  9:16           ` Panu Matilainen
2016-05-27 11:35             ` Neil Horman
2016-05-27 12:46               ` Panu Matilainen
2016-05-25  8:32   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv4 0/5] Implement pmd hardware support exports Panu Matilainen
2016-05-25 11:27     ` Neil Horman
2016-05-26 17:17 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv5 0/6] " Neil Horman
2016-05-26 17:17   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv5 1/6] pmdinfogen: Add buildtools and pmdinfogen utility Neil Horman
2016-05-26 17:17   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv5 2/6] drivers: Update driver registration macro usage Neil Horman
2016-05-26 17:17   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv5 3/6] eal: Add an export symbol to expose the autoload path to external tools Neil Horman
2016-05-26 17:17   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv5 4/6] Makefile: Do post processing on objects that register a driver Neil Horman
2016-05-26 17:17   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv5 5/6] pmdinfo.py: Add tool to query binaries for hw and other support information Neil Horman
2016-05-27 14:38     ` Mcnamara, John
2016-05-27 19:56       ` Neil Horman
2016-05-26 17:17   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv5 6/6] remove rte.hostapp.mk Neil Horman
2016-05-31 13:57 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv6 0/7] Implement pmd hardware support exports Neil Horman
2016-05-31 13:57   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv6 1/7] pmdinfogen: Add buildtools and pmdinfogen utility Neil Horman
2016-06-07  9:57     ` Thomas Monjalon
2016-06-07 12:04       ` Neil Horman
2016-06-07 12:53         ` Thomas Monjalon
2016-06-07 13:03           ` Neil Horman
2016-06-07 13:24             ` Thomas Monjalon
2016-06-07 13:49               ` Neil Horman [this message]
2016-06-07 14:09                 ` Thomas Monjalon
2016-05-31 13:57   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv6 2/7] drivers: Update driver registration macro usage Neil Horman
2016-05-31 13:57   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv6 3/7] eal: Add an export symbol to expose the autoload path to external tools Neil Horman
2016-05-31 13:57   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv6 4/7] Makefile: Do post processing on objects that register a driver Neil Horman
2016-05-31 13:57   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv6 5/7] pmdinfo.py: Add tool to query binaries for hw and other support information Neil Horman
2016-05-31 13:57   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv6 6/7] remove rte.hostapp.mk Neil Horman
2016-05-31 13:57   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv6 7/7] doc: Add prog_guide section documenting pmdinfo script Neil Horman
2016-06-08 17:14     ` Mcnamara, John
2016-06-09 17:31       ` Neil Horman
2016-06-05  0:20   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv6 0/7] Implement pmd hardware support exports Neil Horman
2016-06-07  9:34   ` Thomas Monjalon
2016-06-07 12:08     ` Neil Horman
2016-06-07 12:27       ` Thomas Monjalon
2016-06-09 17:46 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv7 0/6] " Neil Horman
2016-06-09 17:46   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv7 1/6] pmdinfogen: Add buildtools and pmdinfogen utility Neil Horman
2016-06-16 12:29     ` Panu Matilainen
2016-06-16 13:33       ` Neil Horman
2016-06-16 14:06         ` Panu Matilainen
2016-06-16 14:41           ` Neil Horman
2016-06-09 17:46   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv7 2/6] drivers: Update driver registration macro usage Neil Horman
2016-06-09 17:46   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv7 3/6] eal: Add an export symbol to expose the autoload path to external tools Neil Horman
2016-06-09 17:46   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv7 4/6] Makefile: Do post processing on objects that register a driver Neil Horman
2016-06-09 17:47   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv7 5/6] pmdinfo.py: Add tool to query binaries for hw and other support information Neil Horman
2016-06-16 12:32     ` Panu Matilainen
2016-06-09 17:47   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv7 6/6] doc: Add prog_guide section documenting pmdinfo script Neil Horman
2016-06-09 19:55     ` Mcnamara, John
2016-06-17 18:46   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv8 0/6] Implement pmd hardware support exports Neil Horman
2016-06-17 18:46     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv8 1/6] pmdinfogen: Add buildtools and pmdinfogen utility Neil Horman
2016-06-17 18:46     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv8 2/6] drivers: Update driver registration macro usage Neil Horman
2016-07-07 11:00       ` De Lara Guarch, Pablo
2016-07-07 11:39         ` Neil Horman
2016-07-07 15:37         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH] crypto: normalize cryptodev pmd names with macros Neil Horman
2016-07-08  9:09           ` De Lara Guarch, Pablo
2016-07-08 12:17             ` Neil Horman
2016-07-08 12:40               ` Thomas Monjalon
2016-07-08 13:42                 ` Neil Horman
2016-07-08 19:03                   ` Mcnamara, John
2016-07-09 13:34                     ` Neil Horman
2016-07-09 16:04                       ` Mcnamara, John
2016-07-08 14:00               ` De Lara Guarch, Pablo
2016-07-08 14:14                 ` Neil Horman
2016-07-08 10:03           ` Thomas Monjalon
2016-07-08 16:34           ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2] " Pablo de Lara
2016-07-08 16:46             ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3] " Pablo de Lara
2016-07-08 17:14               ` Thomas Monjalon
2016-06-17 18:46     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv8 3/6] eal: Add an export symbol to expose the autoload path to external tools Neil Horman
2016-06-17 18:46     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv8 4/6] Makefile: Do post processing on objects that register a driver Neil Horman
2016-06-17 18:46     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv8 5/6] pmdinfo.py: Add tool to query binaries for hw and other support information Neil Horman
2016-06-29 15:12       ` Remy Horton
2016-06-29 16:18         ` Neil Horman
2016-06-30  7:45           ` Remy Horton
2016-06-17 18:46     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv8 6/6] doc: Add prog_guide section documenting pmdinfo script Neil Horman
2016-06-29  9:18     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv8 0/6] Implement pmd hardware support exports Remy Horton
2016-06-29 11:31       ` Neil Horman
2016-06-30  7:45     ` Remy Horton
2016-07-06 21:21       ` Thomas Monjalon
2016-07-04  1:13     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v9 0/7] export PMD infos Thomas Monjalon
2016-07-04  1:13       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v9 1/7] drivers: export infos as string symbols Thomas Monjalon
2016-07-04  1:14       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v9 2/7] mk: remove recipe for tool library Thomas Monjalon
2016-07-04  1:14       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v9 3/7] mk: refresh recipe for any host application Thomas Monjalon
2016-07-04  1:14       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v9 4/7] pmdinfogen: parse driver to generate code to export Thomas Monjalon
2016-07-04  1:14       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v9 5/7] mk: link infos generated by pmdinfogen Thomas Monjalon
2016-07-04  1:14       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v9 6/7] eal: export default plugin path to external tools Thomas Monjalon
2016-07-04  1:14       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v9 7/7] tools: query binaries for support information Thomas Monjalon
2016-07-04 12:34       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v9 0/7] export PMD infos Neil Horman
2016-07-04 13:10         ` Thomas Monjalon
2016-07-04 16:41           ` Neil Horman
2016-07-04 20:10             ` Thomas Monjalon
2016-07-05 20:08               ` Neil Horman
2016-07-06 15:33                 ` Thomas Monjalon
2016-07-04 15:22       ` Bruce Richardson

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