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From: Neil Horman <nhorman@tuxdriver.com>
To: "Wiles, Keith" <keith.wiles@intel.com>
Cc: Neil Horman <nhorman@redhat.com>,
	Thomas Monjalon <thomas.monjalon@6wind.com>,
	"dev@dpdk.org" <dev@dpdk.org>,
	"Mcnamara, John" <john.mcnamara@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH] validate_abi: build faster by augmenting make with job count
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2016 09:54:33 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160721135433.GA9628@hmsreliant.think-freely.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9309C1B3-D86C-4265-97A4-58E3D7958944@intel.com>

On Wed, Jul 20, 2016 at 10:32:28PM +0000, Wiles, Keith wrote:
> 
> > On Jul 20, 2016, at 3:16 PM, Neil Horman <nhorman@tuxdriver.com> wrote:
> > 
> > On Wed, Jul 20, 2016 at 07:47:32PM +0000, Wiles, Keith wrote:
> >> 
> >>> On Jul 20, 2016, at 12:48 PM, Neil Horman <nhorman@redhat.com> wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> On Wed, Jul 20, 2016 at 07:40:49PM +0200, Thomas Monjalon wrote:
> >>>> 2016-07-20 13:09, Neil Horman:
> >>>>> From: Neil Horman <nhorman@redhat.com>
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> John Mcnamara and I were discussing enhacing the validate_abi script to build
> >>>>> the dpdk tree faster with multiple jobs.  Theres no reason not to do it, so this
> >>>>> implements that requirement.  It uses a MAKE_JOBS variable that can be set by
> >>>>> the user to limit the job count.  By default the job count is set to the number
> >>>>> of online cpus.
> >>>> 
> >>>> Please could you use the variable name DPDK_MAKE_JOBS?
> >>>> This name is already used in scripts/test-build.sh.
> >>>> 
> >>> Sure
> >>> 
> >>>>> +if [ -z "$MAKE_JOBS" ]
> >>>>> +then
> >>>>> +	# This counts the number of cpus on the system
> >>>>> +	MAKE_JOBS=`lscpu -p=cpu | grep -v "#" | wc -l`
> >>>>> +fi
> >>>> 
> >>>> Is lscpu common enough?
> >>>> 
> >>> I'm not sure how to answer that.  lscpu is part of the util-linux package, which
> >>> is part of any base install.  Theres a variant for BSD, but I'm not sure how
> >>> common it is there.
> >>> Neil
> >>> 
> >>>> Another acceptable default would be just "-j" without any number.
> >>>> It would make the number of jobs unlimited.
> >> 
> >> I think the best is just use -j as it tries to use the correct number of jobs based on the number of cores, right?
> >> 
> > -j with no argument (or -j 0), is sort of, maybe what you want.  With either of
> > those options, make will just issue jobs as fast as it processes dependencies.
> > Dependent on how parallel the build is, that can lead to tons of waiting process
> > (i.e. more than your number of online cpus), which can actually hurt your build
> > time.
> 
> I read the manual and looked at the code, which supports your statement. (I think I had some statement on stack overflow and the last time I believe anything on the internet :-) I have not seen a lot of differences in compile times with -j on my system. Mostly I suspect it is the number of paths in the dependency, cores and memory on the system.
> 
> I have 72 lcores or 2 sockets, 18 cores per socket. Xeon 2.3Ghz cores.
> 
> $ export RTE_TARGET=x86_64-native-linuxapp-gcc 
> 
> $ time make install T=${RTE_TARGET}
> real	0m59.445s user	0m27.344s sys	0m7.040s
> 
> $ time make install T=${RTE_TARGET} -j
> real	0m26.584s user	0m14.380s sys	0m5.120s
> 
> # Remove the x86_64-native-linuxapp-gcc
> 
> $ time make install T=${RTE_TARGET} -j 72
> real	0m23.454s user	0m10.832s sys	0m4.664s
> 
> $ time make install T=${RTE_TARGET} -j 8
> real	0m23.812s user	0m10.672s sys	0m4.276s
> 
> cd x86_64-native-linuxapp-gcc
> $ make clean
> $ time make
> real	0m28.539s user	0m9.820s sys	0m3.620s
> 
> # Do a make clean between each build.
> 
> $ time make -j
> real	0m7.217s user	0m6.532s sys	0m2.332s
> 
> $ time make -j 8
> real	0m8.256s user	0m6.472s sys	0m2.456s
> 
> $ time make -j 72
> real	0m6.866s user	0m6.184s sys	0m2.216s
> 
> Just the real time numbers in the following table.
> 
> processes     real Time   depdirs
>      no -j             59.4s        Yes
>        -j 8             23.8s        Yes
>       -j 72            23.5s        Yes
>         -j               26.5s        Yes
> 
>      no -j             28.5s         No
>        -j 8               8.2s         No
>       -j 72              6.8s         No
>         -j                 7.2s         No
> 
> Looks like the depdirs build time on my system:
> $ make clean -j
> $ rm .depdirs
> $ time make -j
> real	0m23.734s user	0m11.228s sys	0m4.844s
> 
> About 16 seconds, which is not a lot of savings. Now the difference from no -j to -j is a lot, but the difference between -j and -j <cpu_count> is not a huge saving. This leads me back to over engineering the problem when ‘-j’ would work just as well here.
> 
> Even on my MacBook Pro i7 system the difference is not that much 1m8s without depdirs build for -j in a VirtualBox with all 4 cores 8G RAM. Compared to 1m13s with -j 4 option.
> 
> I just wonder if it makes a lot of sense to use cpuinfo in this given case if it turns out to be -j works with the 80% rule?
> 
It may, but that seems to be reason to me to just set DPDK_MAKE_JOBS=0, and
you'll get that behavior

Neil

> On some other project with a lot more files like the FreeBSD or Linux distro, yes it would make a fair amount of real time difference.
> 
> Keith
> 
> > 
> > While its fine in los of cases, its not always fine, and with this
> > implementation you can still opt in to that behavior by setting DPDK_MAKE_JOBS=0
> > 
> > Neil
> > 
> >> 
> 

  reply	other threads:[~2016-07-21 13:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-07-20 17:09 Neil Horman
2016-07-20 17:40 ` Thomas Monjalon
2016-07-20 17:48   ` Neil Horman
2016-07-20 19:47     ` Wiles, Keith
2016-07-20 20:15       ` Thomas Monjalon
2016-07-20 20:16       ` Neil Horman
2016-07-20 22:32         ` Wiles, Keith
2016-07-21 13:54           ` Neil Horman [this message]
2016-07-21 14:09             ` Wiles, Keith
2016-07-21 15:06               ` Neil Horman
2016-07-21 15:22                 ` Wiles, Keith
2016-07-21 18:34                   ` Neil Horman
2016-07-24 18:08                     ` Wiles, Keith
2016-08-01 11:49                       ` Neil Horman
2016-08-01 16:16                         ` Wiles, Keith
2016-08-01 18:08                           ` Neil Horman
2016-07-20 19:02   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2] " Neil Horman
2016-07-22 10:46     ` Thomas Monjalon

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