From: "Gaëtan Rivet" <gaetan.rivet@6wind.com>
To: Jan Blunck <jblunck@infradead.org>
Cc: Bruce Richardson <bruce.richardson@intel.com>,
Thomas Monjalon <thomas@monjalon.net>, dev <dev@dpdk.org>
Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 05/11] bus: introduce hotplug functionality
Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2017 13:32:59 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170630113259.GN13355@bidouze.vm.6wind.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALe+Z00oW12072C=RMboCiK4LkxK1=Zezp4+B2XNjYxr0rSeGg@mail.gmail.com>
On Thu, Jun 29, 2017 at 09:20:30PM +0200, Jan Blunck wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 29, 2017 at 2:59 PM, Gaëtan Rivet <gaetan.rivet@6wind.com> wrote:
> > What can be done to go forward:
> >
> > - Define the API for rte_bus interrupt sources, configuration and
> > triggers to allow the development of the needed subsystems.
> >
> > - Each device event sources should offer an event parser to transform
> > them in device descriptions. Depending on the specifics of the source,
> > different levels of info are available.
> >
> > - Redefine the requirements for bus->scan() to allow hotplugging.
> >
> > - Reduce the scope of plug() from (scan-one + probe) to (probe), as
> > everything is now in place.
> >
>
> Also see the series that I send out today. From my point of view we
> are here already.
>
Yes, your series is only a superficial departure from the v6. In the end,
I see that your critics were pretty much only on interfaces and that you
simply wanted it to be your way.
You did not expose your reason for disagreeing, thus I threw a few ideas
to at least make you either explicit your view or accept the current
proposal.
> > - Further hotplugging developments are then possible: add INTR_ADD
> > support, with flexible device definition for example... A thing that
> > is not yet possible with the current architecture but seemed to
> > interest a few people.
> >
> > If we can agree that this is a way forward, do you think Jan that having
> > the current plug() API hinders this plan? We can reduce its scope later,
> > without changing current implementations as, as you said, a proper
> > scan should be idempotent. The future API as envisionned is already
> > respected, but right now the hotplug support in buses is a little more
> > involved. Applications that will start using plug() right now would not
> > have to be rewritten, as the requirements for plugging would still be
> > fullfilled.
> >
> > We can support already hotplugging in DPDK. We can refine this support
> > later to make it more generic and easier to implement for PMD
> > maintainers. But I do not see this as a reason to block this support
> > from being integrated right now.
>
> Indeed. I had hotplug support in the version of DPDK that I'm working
> with for the last years. Don't get me wrong: I'm not arguing against
> the inclusion of hotplug code. I just don't understand the reasoning
> behind the implementation you proposed (with my original SOB)
> especially since some of the things that you listed as going forward
> are already there, are easy to fix or don't necessarily need to be
> part of the DPDK EAL.
>
Don't get me wrong, I am not personally a proponent of these changes,
but I wanted the current implementation to at least leave things open as
I think a few people will push for this in a near future.
But as far as I'm concerned, the hotplug support in DPDK will be
sufficient in v17.08.
> So lets try to get this right from the beginning. What is missing:
> 1. document and verify that existing scan() implementations are idempotent
> 2. example app with udev based hotplug
> 3. check that the symbols are in the correct libraries (bus, pci, vdev)
>
> What am I missing?
>
Nothing on the technical side.
--
Gaëtan Rivet
6WIND
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2017-06-26 0:21 [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 00/12] bus: attach / detach API Gaetan Rivet
2017-06-26 0:21 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 01/12] bus: add bus iterator to find a bus Gaetan Rivet
2017-06-26 15:30 ` Bruce Richardson
2017-06-26 20:53 ` Gaëtan Rivet
2017-06-26 0:22 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 02/12] bus: add device iterator method Gaetan Rivet
2017-06-26 16:20 ` Bruce Richardson
2017-06-26 21:13 ` Gaëtan Rivet
2017-06-26 0:22 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 03/12] bus: add helper to find which bus holds a device Gaetan Rivet
2017-06-26 16:31 ` Bruce Richardson
2017-06-26 22:16 ` Gaëtan Rivet
2017-06-26 0:22 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 04/12] bus: add bus iterator to find " Gaetan Rivet
2017-06-27 10:14 ` Bruce Richardson
2017-06-27 13:54 ` Bruce Richardson
2017-06-27 15:05 ` Gaëtan Rivet
2017-06-27 15:08 ` Bruce Richardson
2017-06-26 0:22 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 05/12] bus: introduce hotplug functionality Gaetan Rivet
2017-06-27 12:23 ` Bruce Richardson
2017-06-26 0:22 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 06/12] vdev: implement find_device bus operation Gaetan Rivet
2017-06-27 12:25 ` Bruce Richardson
2017-06-26 0:22 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 07/12] vdev: implement hotplug functionality Gaetan Rivet
2017-06-27 12:41 ` Bruce Richardson
2017-06-26 0:22 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 08/12] vdev: expose bus name Gaetan Rivet
2017-06-27 12:45 ` Bruce Richardson
2017-06-26 0:22 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 09/12] vdev: use standard bus registration function Gaetan Rivet
2017-06-27 12:59 ` Bruce Richardson
2017-06-26 0:22 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 10/12] pci: implement find_device bus operation Gaetan Rivet
2017-06-27 13:36 ` Bruce Richardson
2017-06-26 0:22 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 11/12] pci: implement hotplug " Gaetan Rivet
2017-06-27 13:49 ` Bruce Richardson
2017-06-26 0:22 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 12/12] eal: make virtual driver probe and remove take rte_vdev_device Gaetan Rivet
2017-06-27 13:58 ` Bruce Richardson
2017-06-27 14:47 ` Gaëtan Rivet
2017-06-27 15:06 ` Bruce Richardson
2017-06-27 14:00 ` Bruce Richardson
2017-06-27 14:08 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 00/12] bus: attach / detach API Bruce Richardson
2017-06-27 14:48 ` Gaëtan Rivet
2017-06-27 16:11 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 00/11] " Gaetan Rivet
2017-06-27 16:11 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 01/11] bus: add bus iterator to find a bus Gaetan Rivet
2017-06-27 16:11 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 02/11] bus: add device iterator method Gaetan Rivet
2017-06-27 16:11 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 03/11] bus: add helper to find which bus holds a device Gaetan Rivet
2017-06-27 16:11 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 04/11] bus: add bus iterator to find " Gaetan Rivet
2017-06-27 16:11 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 05/11] bus: introduce hotplug functionality Gaetan Rivet
2017-06-27 19:03 ` Jan Blunck
2017-06-28 11:44 ` Thomas Monjalon
2017-06-28 11:58 ` Jan Blunck
2017-06-28 12:11 ` Thomas Monjalon
2017-06-28 13:09 ` Jan Blunck
2017-06-28 13:30 ` Thomas Monjalon
2017-06-28 15:11 ` Jan Blunck
2017-06-28 15:33 ` Bruce Richardson
2017-06-29 12:59 ` Gaëtan Rivet
2017-06-29 19:20 ` Jan Blunck
2017-06-30 11:32 ` Gaëtan Rivet [this message]
2017-06-27 16:11 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 06/11] vdev: implement find_device bus operation Gaetan Rivet
2017-06-27 16:11 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 07/11] vdev: implement hotplug " Gaetan Rivet
2017-06-27 16:11 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 08/11] vdev: use standard bus registration function Gaetan Rivet
2017-07-03 22:15 ` Thomas Monjalon
2017-06-27 16:11 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 09/11] pci: implement find_device bus operation Gaetan Rivet
2017-06-27 23:35 ` Stephen Hemminger
2017-06-28 9:17 ` Gaëtan Rivet
2017-06-28 9:52 ` Richardson, Bruce
2017-06-27 16:11 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 10/11] pci: implement hotplug " Gaetan Rivet
2017-06-27 16:11 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 11/11] dev: use new hotplug API in attach / detach Gaetan Rivet
2017-06-29 18:21 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 00/15] bus attach/detach API and hotplug rework Jan Blunck
2017-06-29 18:21 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v7 01/15] bus: add bus iterator to find a bus Jan Blunck
2017-06-29 18:21 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v7 02/15] bus: add find_device bus operation Jan Blunck
2017-06-29 18:21 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v7 03/15] vdev: implement " Jan Blunck
2017-06-29 18:21 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v7 04/15] pci: " Jan Blunck
2017-06-29 18:21 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v7 05/15] bus/fslmc: " Jan Blunck
2017-06-29 18:21 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v7 06/15] bus: add helper to find which bus holds a device Jan Blunck
2017-06-30 9:16 ` Thomas Monjalon
2017-06-30 16:46 ` Jan Blunck
2017-06-30 18:29 ` Thomas Monjalon
2017-06-30 21:24 ` Bruce Richardson
2017-06-30 21:25 ` Bruce Richardson
2017-06-29 18:21 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v7 07/15] bus: add bus iterator to find " Jan Blunck
2017-06-30 9:17 ` Thomas Monjalon
2017-06-29 18:21 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v7 08/15] bus: require buses to implement find_device operation Jan Blunck
2017-06-29 18:22 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v7 09/15] bus: add rte_bus_find_by_name Jan Blunck
2017-06-29 18:22 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v7 10/15] bus: introduce device plug/unplug functionality Jan Blunck
2017-06-29 18:22 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v7 11/15] vdev: implement unplug bus operation Jan Blunck
2017-06-29 18:22 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v7 12/15] pci: implement hotplug " Jan Blunck
2017-06-29 18:22 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v7 13/15] eal: add hotplug add/remove functions Jan Blunck
2017-06-30 9:06 ` Thomas Monjalon
2017-06-30 9:11 ` Gaëtan Rivet
2017-06-30 9:20 ` Bruce Richardson
2017-06-30 15:44 ` Jan Blunck
2017-06-30 16:03 ` Thomas Monjalon
2017-06-30 16:13 ` Gaëtan Rivet
2017-06-30 16:25 ` Bruce Richardson
2017-06-30 16:29 ` Thomas Monjalon
2017-06-30 12:54 ` Thomas Monjalon
2017-06-30 15:12 ` Jan Blunck
2017-06-29 18:22 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v7 14/15] dev: use new hotplug API in attach / detach Jan Blunck
2017-06-29 21:05 ` Thomas Monjalon
2017-06-29 18:22 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v7 15/15] ethdev: Use embedded rte_device to detach driver Jan Blunck
2017-06-29 20:58 ` Thomas Monjalon
2017-06-30 9:59 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 00/15] bus attach/detach API and hotplug rework Thomas Monjalon
2017-06-30 18:19 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v8 00/14] " Jan Blunck
2017-06-30 18:19 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v8 01/14] bus: add bus iterator to find a bus Jan Blunck
2017-06-30 18:19 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v8 02/14] bus: add find_device bus operation Jan Blunck
2017-06-30 18:19 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v8 03/14] vdev: implement " Jan Blunck
2017-06-30 18:19 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v8 04/14] pci: " Jan Blunck
2017-06-30 18:19 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v8 05/14] bus/fslmc: " Jan Blunck
2017-06-30 18:19 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v8 06/14] bus: add helper to find which bus holds a device Jan Blunck
2017-06-30 18:19 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v8 07/14] bus: require buses to implement find_device operation Jan Blunck
2017-06-30 18:19 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v8 08/14] bus: add rte_bus_find_by_name Jan Blunck
2017-06-30 18:19 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v8 09/14] bus: introduce device plug/unplug functionality Jan Blunck
2017-06-30 18:38 ` Gaëtan Rivet
2017-06-30 18:52 ` Jan Blunck
2017-06-30 18:19 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v8 10/14] vdev: implement unplug bus operation Jan Blunck
2017-06-30 18:19 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v8 11/14] pci: implement hotplug " Jan Blunck
2017-06-30 18:19 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v8 12/14] eal: add hotplug add/remove functions Jan Blunck
2017-06-30 18:19 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v8 13/14] ethdev: Use embedded rte_device to detach driver Jan Blunck
2017-07-03 23:17 ` Thomas Monjalon
2017-06-30 18:19 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v8 14/14] dev: use new hotplug API in attach Jan Blunck
2017-07-03 22:59 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v8 00/14] bus attach/detach API and hotplug rework Thomas Monjalon
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