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From: Bruce Richardson <bruce.richardson@intel.com>
To: Neil Horman <nhorman@tuxdriver.com>
Cc: dev@dpdk.org, Thomas Monjalon <thomas@monjalon.net>,
	"Mcnamara, John" <john.mcnamara@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv2 3/4] Makefiles: Add experimental tag check and warnings to trigger on use
Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2017 12:45:50 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20171211124550.GD11536@bricha3-MOBL3.ger.corp.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20171211124043.GA18284@hmswarspite.think-freely.org>

On Mon, Dec 11, 2017 at 07:40:43AM -0500, Neil Horman wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 11, 2017 at 11:35:57AM +0000, Bruce Richardson wrote:
> > On Fri, Dec 08, 2017 at 12:14:34PM -0500, Neil Horman wrote:
> > > Add checks during build to ensure that all symbols in the EXPERIMENTAL
> > > version map section have __experimental tags on their definitions, and
> > > enable the warnings needed to announce their use.  Also add a
> > > ALLOW_EXPERIMENTAL_FUNCTIONS variable check to allow for in-tree dpdk
> > > libraries to override those checks.
> > > 
> > > Signed-off-by: Neil Horman <nhorman@tuxdriver.com>
> > > CC: Thomas Monjalon <thomas@monjalon.net>
> > > CC: "Mcnamara, John" <john.mcnamara@intel.com>
> > > ---
> > 
> > Hi Neil,
> > 
> > if I read the patch functionality correctly, the
> > ALLOW_EXPERIMENTAL_FUNCTIONS variable simply suppresses all errors for
> > deprecated functions. However, what we really want is just to suppress
> > the errors for the experimental functions, and not any that really are
> > deprecated. While we may not have any now in DPDK, that doesn't mean it
> > might not be useful to have some in future.
> > 
> Well, they are all deprecated by the stict definition of the term, which is to
> say that their usage is discouraged/disapproved.  What I think you are saying is
> that you would like to differentiate reasons for deprecation (i.e. deprecation
> because an api is experimental, vs deprecation because an api is broken or going
> to be removed).  I'm not sure I see that we will get there anytime soon, but
> yes, that seems like it would be a good ability to add in here.
> 
> > Therefore, would an alternative scheme work where the experimental tag
> > is set to empty if the ALLOW_EXPERIMENTAL_FUNCTIONS define is set when
> > compiling?
> > 
> Yes, I think that could work.  Perhaps what we can do is modify
> ALLOW_EXPERIMENTAL_FUNCTIONS to set a CFLAGS like:
> -DSUPPRESS_EXPERIMENTAL
> 
> And use that to toggle the definition on rte_compat.h between something that
> deprecates the API call and an empty definition
> 

Yes, exactly what I was thinking, but failed to express so clearly.

Also, would the flag be best set globally when building DPDK itself,
rather than changing individual makefiles per library?

  reply	other threads:[~2017-12-11 12:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 83+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-12-01 18:56 [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 0/4] dpdk: enhance EXPERIMENTAL api tagging Neil Horman
2017-12-01 18:56 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 1/4] buildtools: Add tool to check EXPERIMENTAL api exports Neil Horman
2017-12-01 18:56 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 2/4] compat: Add __experimental macro Neil Horman
2017-12-01 18:56 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 3/4] dpdk: add __experimental tag to appropriate api calls Neil Horman
2017-12-01 18:56 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 4/4] Makefiles: Add experimental tag check and warnings to trigger on use Neil Horman
2017-12-08 17:14 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv2 0/4] dpdk: enhance EXPERIMENTAL api tagging Neil Horman
2017-12-08 17:14   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv2 1/4] buildtools: Add tool to check EXPERIMENTAL api exports Neil Horman
2017-12-08 17:14   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv2 2/4] compat: Add __experimental macro Neil Horman
2017-12-08 17:14   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv2 3/4] Makefiles: Add experimental tag check and warnings to trigger on use Neil Horman
2017-12-11 11:35     ` Bruce Richardson
2017-12-11 12:40       ` Neil Horman
2017-12-11 12:45         ` Bruce Richardson [this message]
2017-12-11 18:44           ` Neil Horman
2017-12-08 17:14   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv2 4/4] dpdk: add __experimental tag to appropriate api calls Neil Horman
2017-12-11 19:36 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv3 0/4] dpdk: enhance EXPERIMENTAL api tagging Neil Horman
2017-12-11 19:36   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv3 1/4] buildtools: Add tool to check EXPERIMENTAL api exports Neil Horman
2017-12-11 19:36   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv3 2/4] compat: Add __experimental macro Neil Horman
2017-12-11 19:36   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv3 3/4] Makefiles: Add experimental tag check and warnings to trigger on use Neil Horman
2017-12-11 19:36   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv3 4/4] dpdk: add __experimental tag to appropriate api calls Neil Horman
2017-12-12 14:07   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv3 0/4] dpdk: enhance EXPERIMENTAL api tagging Bruce Richardson
2017-12-30 17:15     ` Neil Horman
2018-01-04 12:56       ` Neil Horman
2018-01-05 14:08         ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-01-05 16:00           ` Neil Horman
2018-01-09  1:32             ` [dpdk-dev] [dpdk-ci] " Neil Horman
2018-01-09  9:20               ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-01-09 12:36                 ` Neil Horman
2018-01-19 15:44                 ` Neil Horman
2017-12-12 14:33   ` [dpdk-dev] " Mcnamara, John
2017-12-12 20:18     ` Neil Horman
2017-12-12 15:11   ` Wiles, Keith
2017-12-12 20:14     ` Neil Horman
2017-12-13 15:17 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv4 " Neil Horman
2017-12-13 15:17   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv4 1/5] buildtools: Add tool to check EXPERIMENTAL api exports Neil Horman
2018-01-21 18:31     ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-01-21 22:07       ` Neil Horman
2017-12-13 15:17   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv4 2/5] compat: Add __experimental macro Neil Horman
2018-01-21 18:37     ` Thomas Monjalon
2017-12-13 15:17   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv4 3/5] Makefiles: Add experimental tag check and warnings to trigger on use Neil Horman
2018-01-11 20:06     ` Ferruh Yigit
2018-01-11 20:50       ` Neil Horman
2018-01-12 11:49         ` Ferruh Yigit
2018-01-12 12:44           ` Neil Horman
2018-01-21 18:54             ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-01-22  1:34               ` Neil Horman
2018-01-22  1:37                 ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-01-21 18:50     ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-01-22  1:19       ` Neil Horman
2017-12-13 15:17   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv4 4/5] dpdk: add __experimental tag to appropriate api calls Neil Horman
2018-01-11 20:06     ` Ferruh Yigit
2018-01-11 21:24       ` Neil Horman
2018-01-12 11:50         ` Ferruh Yigit
2018-01-12 14:25           ` Neil Horman
2018-01-12 15:53             ` Ferruh Yigit
2017-12-13 15:17   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv4 5/5] doc: Add ABI __experimental tag documentation Neil Horman
2017-12-13 15:32     ` Bruce Richardson
2018-01-11 20:06     ` Ferruh Yigit
2018-01-11 21:29       ` Neil Horman
2018-01-12 11:50         ` Ferruh Yigit
2018-01-12 14:37           ` Neil Horman
2018-01-12 15:55             ` Ferruh Yigit
2018-01-13  0:28               ` Neil Horman
2018-01-13 15:56                 ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-01-14 14:36                   ` Neil Horman
2018-01-14 16:27                     ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-01-21 20:14     ` Thomas Monjalon
2017-12-13 15:32   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv4 0/4] dpdk: enhance EXPERIMENTAL api tagging Bruce Richardson
2017-12-21 14:21   ` Neil Horman
2017-12-30 19:20   ` Luca Boccassi
2017-12-31  1:57     ` Neil Horman
2018-01-22  1:48 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 0/5] " Neil Horman
2018-01-22  1:48   ` [dpdk-dev] [[PATCH v5] 1/5] buildtools: Add tool to check EXPERIMENTAL api exports Neil Horman
2018-01-22  1:48   ` [dpdk-dev] [[PATCH v5] 2/5] compat: Add __rte_experimental macro Neil Horman
2018-01-22  1:48   ` [dpdk-dev] [[PATCH v5] 3/5] Makefiles: Add experimental tag check and warnings to trigger on use Neil Horman
2018-01-22  1:48   ` [dpdk-dev] [[PATCH v5] 4/5] dpdk: add __rte_experimental tag to appropriate api calls Neil Horman
2018-01-22  1:48   ` [dpdk-dev] [[PATCH v5] 5/5] doc: Add ABI __experimental tag documentation Neil Horman
2018-01-23 10:35     ` Mcnamara, John
2018-01-29 21:42       ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-01-29 21:46   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 0/5] dpdk: enhance EXPERIMENTAL api tagging Thomas Monjalon
2018-01-30 15:54     ` Neil Horman
2018-01-30 16:15       ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-01-31 12:18         ` Neil Horman
2018-01-31 12:36           ` Thomas Monjalon

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