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From: "Gaëtan Rivet" <gaetan.rivet@6wind.com>
To: Matan Azrad <matan@mellanox.com>
Cc: "Ananyev, Konstantin" <konstantin.ananyev@intel.com>,
	Thomas Monjalon <thomas@monjalon.net>,
	"Wu, Jingjing" <jingjing.wu@intel.com>,
	"dev@dpdk.org" <dev@dpdk.org>,
	Neil Horman <nhorman@tuxdriver.com>,
	"Richardson, Bruce" <bruce.richardson@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 7/7] app/testpmd: adjust ethdev port ownership
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2018 16:00:17 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180119150017.mljpcdmldqx32mkq@bidouze.vm.6wind.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AM6PR0502MB3797B1AE571D56DBEB8C05CAD2EF0@AM6PR0502MB3797.eurprd05.prod.outlook.com>

Hi Matan,

On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 01:35:10PM +0000, Matan Azrad wrote:
> Hi Konstantin
> 
> From: Ananyev, Konstantin, Friday, January 19, 2018 3:09 PM
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Matan Azrad [mailto:matan@mellanox.com]
> > > Sent: Friday, January 19, 2018 12:52 PM
> > > To: Ananyev, Konstantin <konstantin.ananyev@intel.com>; Thomas
> > > Monjalon <thomas@monjalon.net>; Gaetan Rivet
> > <gaetan.rivet@6wind.com>;
> > > Wu, Jingjing <jingjing.wu@intel.com>
> > > Cc: dev@dpdk.org; Neil Horman <nhorman@tuxdriver.com>; Richardson,
> > > Bruce <bruce.richardson@intel.com>
> > > Subject: RE: [PATCH v3 7/7] app/testpmd: adjust ethdev port ownership
> > >
> > > Hi Konstantin
> > >
> > > From: Ananyev, Konstantin, Friday, January 19, 2018 2:38 PM
> > > > To: Matan Azrad <matan@mellanox.com>; Thomas Monjalon
> > > > <thomas@monjalon.net>; Gaetan Rivet <gaetan.rivet@6wind.com>;
> > Wu,
> > > > Jingjing <jingjing.wu@intel.com>
> > > > Cc: dev@dpdk.org; Neil Horman <nhorman@tuxdriver.com>; Richardson,
> > > > Bruce <bruce.richardson@intel.com>
> > > > Subject: RE: [PATCH v3 7/7] app/testpmd: adjust ethdev port
> > > > ownership
> > > >
> > > > Hi Matan,
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Matan Azrad [mailto:matan@mellanox.com]
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2018 4:35 PM
> > > > > To: Thomas Monjalon <thomas@monjalon.net>; Gaetan Rivet
> > > > > <gaetan.rivet@6wind.com>; Wu, Jingjing <jingjing.wu@intel.com>
> > > > > Cc: dev@dpdk.org; Neil Horman <nhorman@tuxdriver.com>;
> > Richardson,
> > > > > Bruce <bruce.richardson@intel.com>; Ananyev, Konstantin
> > > > > <konstantin.ananyev@intel.com>
> > > > > Subject: [PATCH v3 7/7] app/testpmd: adjust ethdev port ownership
> > > > >
> > > > > Testpmd should not use ethdev ports which are managed by other
> > > > > DPDK entities.
> > > > >
> > > > > Set Testpmd ownership to each port which is not used by other
> > > > > entity and prevent any usage of ethdev ports which are not owned by
> > Testpmd.
> > > > >
> > > > > Signed-off-by: Matan Azrad <matan@mellanox.com>
> > > > > ---
> > > > >  app/test-pmd/cmdline.c      | 89 +++++++++++++++++++-----------------
> > ----
> > > > -----
> > > > >  app/test-pmd/cmdline_flow.c |  2 +-
> > > > >  app/test-pmd/config.c       | 37 ++++++++++---------
> > > > >  app/test-pmd/parameters.c   |  4 +-
> > > > >  app/test-pmd/testpmd.c      | 63 ++++++++++++++++++++------------
> > > > >  app/test-pmd/testpmd.h      |  3 ++
> > > > >  6 files changed, 103 insertions(+), 95 deletions(-)
> > > > >
> > > > > diff --git a/app/test-pmd/cmdline.c b/app/test-pmd/cmdline.c index
> > > > > 31919ba..6199c64 100644
> > > > > --- a/app/test-pmd/cmdline.c
> > > > > +++ b/app/test-pmd/cmdline.c
> > > > > @@ -1394,7 +1394,7 @@ struct cmd_config_speed_all {
> > > > >  			&link_speed) < 0)
> > > > >  		return;
> > > > >
> > > > > -	RTE_ETH_FOREACH_DEV(pid) {
> > > > > +	RTE_ETH_FOREACH_DEV_OWNED_BY(pid, my_owner.id) {
> > > >
> > > > Why do we need all these changes?
> > > > As I understand you changed definition of RTE_ETH_FOREACH_DEV(), so
> > > > no testpmd should work ok default (no_owner case).
> > > > Am I missing something here?
> > >
> > > Now, After Gaetan suggestion RTE_ETH_FOREACH_DEV(pid) will iterate
> > over all valid and ownerless ports.
> > 
> > Yes.
> > 
> > > Here Testpmd wants to iterate over its owned ports.
> > 
> > Why? Why it can't just iterate over all valid and ownerless ports?
> > As I understand it would be enough to fix current problems and would allow
> > us to avoid any changes in testmpd (which I think is a good thing).
> 
> Yes, I understand that this big change is very daunted, But I think the current a lot of bugs in testpmd(regarding port ownership) even more daunted.
> 
> Look,
> Testpmd initiates some of its internal databases depends on specific port iteration,
> In some time someone may take ownership of Testpmd ports and testpmd will continue to touch them.
> 

If I look back on the fail-safe, its sole purpose is to have seamless
hotplug with existing applications.

Port ownership is a genericization of some functions introduced by the
fail-safe, that could structure DPDK further. It should allow
applications to have a seamless integration with subsystems using port
ownership. Without this, port ownership cannot be used.

Testpmd should be fixed, but follow the most common design patterns of
DPDK applications. Going with port ownership seems like a paradigm
shift.

> In addition
> Using the old iterator in some places in testpmd will cause a race for run-time new ports(can be created by failsafe or any hotplug code):
> - testpmd finds an ownerless port(just now created) by the old iterator and start traffic there,
> - failsafe takes ownership of this new port and start traffic there.
> Problem!

Testpmd does not handle detection of new port. If it did, testing
fail-safe with it would be wrong.

At startup, RTE_ETH_FOREACH_DEV already fixed the issue of registering
DEFERRED ports. There are still remaining issues regarding this, but I
think they should be fixed. The architecture does not need to be
completely moved to port ownership.

If anything, this should serve as a test for your API with common
applications. I think you'd prefer to know and debug with testpmd
instead of firing up VPP or something like that to determine what went
wrong with using the fail-safe.

>  
> In addition
> As a good example for well-done application (free from ownership bugs) I tried here to adjust Tespmd to the new rules and BTW to fix a lot of bugs.    

Testpmd has too much cruft, it won't ever be a good example of a
well-done application.

If you want to demonstrate ownership, I think you should start an
example application demonstrating race conditions and their mitigation.

I think that would be interesting for many DPDK users.

> 
> 
> So actually applications which are not aware to the port ownership still are exposed to races, but if there use the old iterator(with the new change) the amount of races decreases. 
> 
> Thanks, Matan.
> > Konstantin
> > 
> > >
> > > I added to Testpmd ability to take an ownership of ports as the new
> > > ownership and synchronization rules suggested, Since Tespmd is a DPDK
> > > entity which wants that no one will touch its owned ports, It must allocate
> > an unique ID, set owner for its ports (see in main function) and recognizes
> > them by its owner ID.
> > >
> > > > Konstantin
> > > >

Regards,
-- 
Gaëtan Rivet
6WIND

  reply	other threads:[~2018-01-19 15:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 212+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-11-28 11:57 [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 0/5] ethdev: Port ownership Matan Azrad
2017-11-28 11:57 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 1/5] ethdev: free a port by a dedicated API Matan Azrad
2017-11-28 11:57 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 2/5] ethdev: add port ownership Matan Azrad
2017-11-30 12:36   ` Neil Horman
2017-11-30 13:24     ` Gaëtan Rivet
2017-11-30 14:30       ` Matan Azrad
2017-11-30 15:09         ` Gaëtan Rivet
2017-11-30 15:43           ` Matan Azrad
2017-12-01 12:09       ` Neil Horman
2017-12-03  8:04         ` Matan Azrad
2017-12-03 11:10           ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2017-12-03 13:46             ` Matan Azrad
2017-12-04 16:01               ` Neil Horman
2017-12-04 18:10                 ` Matan Azrad
2017-12-04 22:30                   ` Neil Horman
2017-12-05  6:08                     ` Matan Azrad
2017-12-05 10:05                       ` Bruce Richardson
2017-12-08 11:35                         ` Thomas Monjalon
2017-12-08 12:31                           ` Neil Horman
2017-12-21 17:06                             ` Thomas Monjalon
2017-12-21 17:43                               ` Neil Horman
2017-12-21 19:37                                 ` Matan Azrad
2017-12-21 20:14                                   ` Neil Horman
2017-12-21 21:57                                     ` Matan Azrad
2017-12-22 14:26                                       ` Neil Horman
2017-12-23 22:36                                         ` Matan Azrad
2017-12-29 16:56                                           ` Neil Horman
2017-12-05 19:26                       ` Neil Horman
2017-12-08 11:06                         ` Thomas Monjalon
2017-12-05 11:12               ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2017-12-05 11:44                 ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2017-12-05 11:53                   ` Thomas Monjalon
2017-12-05 14:56                     ` Bruce Richardson
2017-12-05 14:57                     ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2017-12-05 11:47                 ` Thomas Monjalon
2017-12-05 15:13                   ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2017-12-05 15:49                     ` Thomas Monjalon
2017-11-28 11:57 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 3/5] net/failsafe: free an eth port by a dedicated API Matan Azrad
2017-11-28 11:58 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 4/5] net/failsafe: use ownership mechanism to own ports Matan Azrad
2017-11-28 11:58 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 5/5] app/testpmd: adjust ethdev port ownership Matan Azrad
2018-01-07  9:45 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 0/6] ethdev: " Matan Azrad
2018-01-07  9:45   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 1/6] ethdev: fix port data reset timing Matan Azrad
2018-01-07  9:45   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 2/6] ethdev: add port ownership Matan Azrad
2018-01-10 13:36     ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2018-01-10 16:58       ` Matan Azrad
2018-01-11 12:40         ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2018-01-11 14:51           ` Matan Azrad
2018-01-12  0:02             ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2018-01-12  7:24               ` Matan Azrad
2018-01-15 11:45                 ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2018-01-15 13:09                   ` Matan Azrad
2018-01-15 18:43                     ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2018-01-16  8:04                       ` Matan Azrad
2018-01-16 19:11                         ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2018-01-16 20:32                           ` Matan Azrad
2018-01-17 11:24                             ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2018-01-17 12:05                               ` Matan Azrad
2018-01-17 12:54                                 ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2018-01-17 13:10                                   ` Matan Azrad
2018-01-17 16:52                                     ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2018-01-17 18:02                                       ` Matan Azrad
2018-01-17 20:34                                       ` Matan Azrad
2018-01-18 14:17                                         ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2018-01-18 14:26                                           ` Matan Azrad
2018-01-18 14:41                                             ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2018-01-18 14:45                                               ` Matan Azrad
2018-01-18 14:51                                                 ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2018-01-18 15:00                                                   ` Matan Azrad
2018-01-17 14:00                                 ` Neil Horman
2018-01-17 17:01                                   ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2018-01-18 13:10                                     ` Neil Horman
2018-01-18 14:00                                       ` Matan Azrad
2018-01-18 16:54                                         ` Neil Horman
2018-01-18 17:20                                           ` Matan Azrad
2018-01-18 18:41                                             ` Neil Horman
2018-01-18 20:21                                               ` Matan Azrad
2018-01-19  1:41                                                 ` Neil Horman
2018-01-19  7:14                                                   ` Matan Azrad
2018-01-19  9:30                                                     ` Bruce Richardson
2018-01-19 10:44                                                       ` Matan Azrad
2018-01-19 13:30                                                         ` Neil Horman
2018-01-19 13:57                                                           ` Matan Azrad
2018-01-19 14:13                                                           ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-01-19 15:27                                                             ` Neil Horman
2018-01-19 17:17                                                               ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-01-19 17:43                                                                 ` Neil Horman
2018-01-19 18:12                                                                   ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-01-19 19:47                                                                     ` Neil Horman
2018-01-19 20:19                                                                       ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-01-19 22:52                                                                         ` Neil Horman
2018-01-20  3:38                                                                         ` Tuxdriver
2018-01-20 12:54                                                                       ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2018-01-20 14:02                                                                         ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-01-19 12:55                                                       ` Neil Horman
2018-01-19 13:52                                                     ` Neil Horman
2018-01-18 16:27                                     ` Neil Horman
2018-01-17 17:58                                   ` Matan Azrad
2018-01-18 13:20                                     ` Neil Horman
2018-01-18 14:52                                       ` Matan Azrad
2018-01-19 13:57                                         ` Neil Horman
2018-01-19 14:07                                           ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-01-19 14:32                                             ` Neil Horman
2018-01-19 17:09                                               ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-01-19 17:37                                                 ` Neil Horman
2018-01-19 18:10                                                   ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-01-21 22:12                                                     ` Ferruh Yigit
2018-01-07  9:45   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 3/6] ethdev: synchronize port allocation Matan Azrad
2018-01-07  9:58     ` Matan Azrad
2018-01-07  9:45   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 4/6] net/failsafe: free an eth port by a dedicated API Matan Azrad
2018-01-07  9:45   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 5/6] net/failsafe: use ownership mechanism to own ports Matan Azrad
2018-01-08 10:32     ` Gaëtan Rivet
2018-01-08 11:16       ` Matan Azrad
2018-01-08 11:35         ` Gaëtan Rivet
2018-01-07  9:45   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 6/6] app/testpmd: adjust ethdev port ownership Matan Azrad
2018-01-08 11:39     ` Gaëtan Rivet
2018-01-08 12:30       ` Matan Azrad
2018-01-08 13:30         ` Gaëtan Rivet
2018-01-08 13:55           ` Matan Azrad
2018-01-08 14:21             ` Gaëtan Rivet
2018-01-08 14:42               ` Matan Azrad
2018-01-16  5:53     ` Lu, Wenzhuo
2018-01-16  8:15       ` Matan Azrad
2018-01-17  0:46         ` Lu, Wenzhuo
2018-01-17  8:51           ` Matan Azrad
2018-01-18  0:53             ` Lu, Wenzhuo
2018-01-18 16:35   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 0/7] Port ownership and syncronization Matan Azrad
2018-01-18 16:35     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 1/7] ethdev: fix port data reset timing Matan Azrad
2018-01-18 17:00       ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-01-19 12:38       ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2018-03-05 11:24       ` [dpdk-dev] [dpdk-stable] " Ferruh Yigit
2018-03-05 14:52         ` Matan Azrad
2018-03-05 15:06           ` Ferruh Yigit
2018-03-05 15:12             ` Matan Azrad
2018-03-27 22:37               ` Ferruh Yigit
2018-03-28 12:07                 ` Matan Azrad
2018-03-30 10:39                   ` Ferruh Yigit
2018-04-19 11:07                     ` Ferruh Yigit
2018-04-25 12:16                       ` Matan Azrad
2018-04-25 12:30                         ` Ori Kam
2018-04-25 12:54                         ` Ferruh Yigit
2018-04-25 14:01                           ` Matan Azrad
2018-01-18 16:35     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 2/7] ethdev: fix used portid allocation Matan Azrad
2018-01-18 17:00       ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-01-19 12:40       ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2018-01-20 16:48         ` Matan Azrad
2018-01-20 17:26           ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2018-01-18 16:35     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 3/7] ethdev: add port ownership Matan Azrad
2018-01-18 21:11       ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-01-19 12:41       ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2018-01-18 16:35     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 4/7] ethdev: synchronize port allocation Matan Azrad
2018-01-18 20:43       ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-01-18 20:52         ` Matan Azrad
2018-01-18 21:17           ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-01-19 12:47       ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2018-01-18 16:35     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 5/7] net/failsafe: free an eth port by a dedicated API Matan Azrad
2018-01-18 16:35     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 6/7] net/failsafe: use ownership mechanism to own ports Matan Azrad
2018-01-18 16:35     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 7/7] app/testpmd: adjust ethdev port ownership Matan Azrad
2018-01-19 12:37       ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2018-01-19 12:51         ` Matan Azrad
2018-01-19 13:08           ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2018-01-19 13:35             ` Matan Azrad
2018-01-19 15:00               ` Gaëtan Rivet [this message]
2018-01-20 18:14                 ` Matan Azrad
2018-01-22 10:17                   ` Gaëtan Rivet
2018-01-22 11:22                     ` Matan Azrad
2018-01-22 12:28                 ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2018-01-22 13:22                   ` Matan Azrad
2018-01-22 20:48                     ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2018-01-23  8:54                       ` Matan Azrad
2018-01-23 12:56                         ` Gaëtan Rivet
2018-01-23 14:30                           ` Matan Azrad
2018-01-25  9:36                             ` Matan Azrad
2018-01-25 10:05                               ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-01-25 11:15                                 ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2018-01-25 11:33                                   ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-01-25 11:55                                     ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2018-01-23 13:34                         ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2018-01-23 14:18                           ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-01-23 15:12                             ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2018-01-23 15:18                               ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2018-01-23 17:33                                 ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-01-23 21:18                                   ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2018-01-24  8:10                                     ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-01-24 18:30                                       ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2018-01-25 10:55                                         ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-01-25 11:09                                           ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2018-01-25 11:27                                             ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-01-23 14:43                           ` Matan Azrad
2018-01-20 21:24     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 0/7] Port ownership and syncronization Matan Azrad
2018-01-20 21:24       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 1/7] ethdev: fix port data reset timing Matan Azrad
2018-01-20 21:24       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 2/7] ethdev: fix used portid allocation Matan Azrad
2018-01-20 21:24       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 3/7] ethdev: add port ownership Matan Azrad
2018-01-21 20:43         ` Ferruh Yigit
2018-01-21 20:46         ` Ferruh Yigit
2018-01-20 21:24       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 4/7] ethdev: synchronize port allocation Matan Azrad
2018-01-20 21:24       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 5/7] net/failsafe: free an eth port by a dedicated API Matan Azrad
2018-01-20 21:24       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 6/7] net/failsafe: use ownership mechanism to own ports Matan Azrad
2018-01-20 21:24       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 7/7] app/testpmd: adjust ethdev port ownership Matan Azrad
2018-01-22 16:38       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 0/7] Port ownership and synchronization Matan Azrad
2018-01-22 16:38         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 1/7] ethdev: fix port data reset timing Matan Azrad
2018-01-22 16:38         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 2/7] ethdev: fix used portid allocation Matan Azrad
2018-01-22 16:38         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 3/7] ethdev: add port ownership Matan Azrad
2018-01-22 16:38         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 4/7] ethdev: synchronize port allocation Matan Azrad
2018-01-22 16:38         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 5/7] net/failsafe: free an eth port by a dedicated API Matan Azrad
2018-01-22 16:38         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 6/7] net/failsafe: use ownership mechanism to own ports Matan Azrad
2018-01-22 16:38         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 7/7] app/testpmd: adjust ethdev port ownership Matan Azrad
2018-01-25  1:47           ` Lu, Wenzhuo
2018-01-25  8:30             ` Matan Azrad
2018-01-26  0:50               ` Lu, Wenzhuo
2018-01-29 11:21         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 0/7] Port ownership and synchronization Matan Azrad
2018-01-31 19:53           ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-01-25 14:35     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 0/7] Port ownership and syncronization Ferruh Yigit

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