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From: Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org>
To: "Wang, Haiyue" <haiyue.wang@intel.com>
Cc: "dev@dpdk.org" <dev@dpdk.org>,
	"Yigit, Ferruh" <ferruh.yigit@intel.com>,
	"Ye, Xiaolong" <xiaolong.ye@intel.com>,
	"Kinsella, Ray" <ray.kinsella@intel.com>,
	"Iremonger, Bernard" <bernard.iremonger@intel.com>,
	"Sun, Chenmin" <chenmin.sun@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v1 0/4] get Rx/Tx packet burst mode information
Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2019 10:15:17 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190926101517.505ab45c@hermes.lan> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E3B9F2FDCB65864C82CD632F23D8AB8773D6E5D2@shsmsx102.ccr.corp.intel.com>

On Thu, 26 Sep 2019 16:36:09 +0000
"Wang, Haiyue" <haiyue.wang@intel.com> wrote:

> Hi Stephen,
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Stephen Hemminger [mailto:stephen@networkplumber.org]
> > Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2019 23:57
> > To: Wang, Haiyue <haiyue.wang@intel.com>
> > Cc: dev@dpdk.org; Yigit, Ferruh <ferruh.yigit@intel.com>; Ye, Xiaolong <xiaolong.ye@intel.com>;
> > Kinsella, Ray <ray.kinsella@intel.com>; Iremonger, Bernard <bernard.iremonger@intel.com>; Sun, Chenmin
> > <chenmin.sun@intel.com>
> > Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v1 0/4] get Rx/Tx packet burst mode information
> > 
> > On Thu, 26 Sep 2019 19:48:14 +0800
> > Haiyue Wang <haiyue.wang@intel.com> wrote:
> >   
> > > RFCv3 -> v1:
> > > 	https://patchwork.dpdk.org/patch/59103/
> > > 	https://patchwork.dpdk.org/patch/59104/
> > > 	https://patchwork.dpdk.org/patch/59105/
> > > 	https://patchwork.dpdk.org/patch/59106/
> > > 	1). Use the function 'rte_bsf64' to iterate the options for
> > > 	    getting the name.
> > >
> > > Haiyue Wang (4):
> > >   ethdev: add the API for getting burst mode information
> > >   net/i40e: support to get the Rx/Tx burst mode
> > >   net/ice: support to get the Rx/Tx burst mode
> > >   app/testpmd: show the Rx/Tx burst mode description
> > >
> > >  app/test-pmd/config.c                    | 29 +++++++++
> > >  doc/guides/rel_notes/release_19_11.rst   |  9 +++
> > >  drivers/net/i40e/i40e_ethdev.c           |  2 +
> > >  drivers/net/i40e/i40e_ethdev.h           |  4 ++
> > >  drivers/net/i40e/i40e_rxtx.c             | 72 +++++++++++++++++++++
> > >  drivers/net/ice/ice_ethdev.c             |  2 +
> > >  drivers/net/ice/ice_rxtx.c               | 54 ++++++++++++++++
> > >  drivers/net/ice/ice_rxtx.h               |  4 ++
> > >  lib/librte_ethdev/rte_ethdev.c           | 75 ++++++++++++++++++++++
> > >  lib/librte_ethdev/rte_ethdev.h           | 82 ++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > >  lib/librte_ethdev/rte_ethdev_core.h      |  5 ++
> > >  lib/librte_ethdev/rte_ethdev_version.map |  5 ++
> > >  12 files changed, 343 insertions(+)
> > >  
> > 
> > A couple of meta comments:
> > 1) Could this be part of dev_info_get somehow?
> >   
> 
> https://patchwork.dpdk.org/patch/57624/
> 'Think of a better way that doesn't break ABI.'  ;-)

That comment was made relative to 19.08, but 19.11 is the time where
API/ABI breakage is allowed.
 
> > 2) Why should application care? Is this just a test hook?  
> 
> https://patches.dpdk.org/cover/57623/
> This is from FD.io VPP's bug, and finally, we come out
> this API for application accessing the burst mode information.
> It can be used as a simple trace or something like performance
> analysis like why slow ? Not in vector, anyway, application can
> get this burst mode information now, not just open PMD debug log
> level.

From an architecture perspective, diagnostics are good but VPP is probably
taking that too far.  It is possible to expose local symbols if they
want to keep using dlsym() by adjusting linker flags. It is more that VPP
is stripping everything.  Since VPP has chosen to go their own
way is fixable inside VPP without changing DPDK. Also, long term VPP is
going away from using DPDK drivers. Probably soon they will have their
own drivers for i40e and ice anyway.


The basis of my concern is that this is one of those kind of API's
that creates long term technical debt around supporting it as other
things change.

  reply	other threads:[~2019-09-26 17:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-09-26 11:48 Haiyue Wang
2019-09-26 11:48 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v1 1/4] ethdev: add the API for getting " Haiyue Wang
2019-09-26 13:41   ` Ye Xiaolong
2019-09-26 13:48     ` Wang, Haiyue
2019-09-26 11:48 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v1 2/4] net/i40e: support to get the Rx/Tx burst mode Haiyue Wang
2019-09-26 13:49   ` Ye Xiaolong
2019-09-26 14:18     ` Wang, Haiyue
2019-09-26 11:48 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v1 3/4] net/ice: " Haiyue Wang
2019-09-26 11:48 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v1 4/4] app/testpmd: show the Rx/Tx burst mode description Haiyue Wang
2019-09-26 13:57   ` Ye Xiaolong
2019-09-26 15:57 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v1 0/4] get Rx/Tx packet burst mode information Stephen Hemminger
2019-09-26 16:36   ` Wang, Haiyue
2019-09-26 17:15     ` Stephen Hemminger [this message]
2019-09-26 17:36       ` Ferruh Yigit
2019-09-27  1:17       ` Wang, Haiyue

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