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From: Tyler Retzlaff <roretzla@linux.microsoft.com>
To: Tomasz Duszynski <tduszynski@marvell.com>
Cc: "bruce.richardson@intel.com" <bruce.richardson@intel.com>,
	"mb@smartsharesystems.com" <mb@smartsharesystems.com>,
	"dev@dpdk.org" <dev@dpdk.org>,
	"thomas@monjalon.net" <thomas@monjalon.net>,
	Jerin Jacob Kollanukkaran <jerinj@marvell.com>,
	"Ruifeng.Wang@arm.com" <Ruifeng.Wang@arm.com>,
	"mattias.ronnblom@ericsson.com" <mattias.ronnblom@ericsson.com>,
	"zhoumin@loongson.cn" <zhoumin@loongson.cn>
Subject: Re: [EXT] Re: [PATCH v5 0/4] add support for self monitoring
Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2023 13:05:47 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230111210547.GA2134@linuxonhyperv3.guj3yctzbm1etfxqx2vob5hsef.xx.internal.cloudapp.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <DM4PR18MB436872EBC5922084C5DAFC1DD2FC9@DM4PR18MB4368.namprd18.prod.outlook.com>

On Wed, Jan 11, 2023 at 09:39:35AM +0000, Tomasz Duszynski wrote:
> Hi Tyler,
> 
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Tyler Retzlaff <roretzla@linux.microsoft.com>
> >Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2023 1:32 AM
> >To: Tomasz Duszynski <tduszynski@marvell.com>; bruce.richardson@intel.com; mb@smartsharesystems.com
> >Cc: dev@dpdk.org; thomas@monjalon.net; Jerin Jacob Kollanukkaran <jerinj@marvell.com>;
> >mb@smartsharesystems.com; Ruifeng.Wang@arm.com; mattias.ronnblom@ericsson.com; zhoumin@loongson.cn
> >Subject: [EXT] Re: [PATCH v5 0/4] add support for self monitoring
> >
> >External Email
> >
> >----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >hi,
> >
> >don't interpret this as an objection to the functionality but this looks like a clear example of
> >something that doesn't belong in the EAL. has there been a discussion as to whether or not this
> >should be in a separate library?
> 
> No, I don't recall anybody having any concerns about the code placement. Rationale behind 
> making this part of eal was based on the fact that tracing itself is a part of eal and
> since this was meant to be extension to tracing, code placement decision came out naturally. 
> 
> During development phase idea evolved a bit and what initially was supposed to be solely yet
> another tracepoint become generic API to read pmu and tracepoint based on that. Which means
> both can be used independently. 
> 
> That said, since this code has both platform agnostic and platform specific parts this can either be split into: 
> 1. library + eal platform code
> 2. all under eal 
> 
> Either approach seems legit. Thoughts?
> 
> >
> >a basic test is whether or not an implementation exists or can be reasonably provided for all
> >platforms and that isn't strictly evident here. red flag is to see yet more code being added
> >conditionally compiled for a single platform.
> 
> Even libs are not entirely pristine and have platform specific ifdefs lurking so not sure where
> this red flag is coming from. 

i think red flag was probably the wrong term to use sorry for that.
rather i should say it is an indicator that the api probably doesn't
belong in the eal.

fundamentally the purpose of the abstraction library is to relieve the
application from having to do conditional compilation and/or execution for
the subject apis coming from eal. including and exporting apis that work
for only one platform is in direct contradiction.

please explore adding this as a separate library, it is understood that
there are tradeoffs involved.

thanks!


  reply	other threads:[~2023-01-11 21:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 139+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-11-11  9:43 [PATCH " Tomasz Duszynski
2022-11-11  9:43 ` [PATCH 1/4] eal: add generic support for reading PMU events Tomasz Duszynski
2022-12-15  8:33   ` Mattias Rönnblom
2022-11-11  9:43 ` [PATCH 2/4] eal/arm: support reading ARM PMU events in runtime Tomasz Duszynski
2022-11-11  9:43 ` [PATCH 3/4] eal/x86: support reading Intel " Tomasz Duszynski
2022-11-11  9:43 ` [PATCH 4/4] eal: add PMU support to tracing library Tomasz Duszynski
2022-11-21 12:11 ` [PATCH v2 0/4] add support for self monitoring Tomasz Duszynski
2022-11-21 12:11   ` [PATCH v2 1/4] eal: add generic support for reading PMU events Tomasz Duszynski
2022-11-21 12:11   ` [PATCH v2 2/4] eal/arm: support reading ARM PMU events in runtime Tomasz Duszynski
2022-11-21 12:11   ` [PATCH v2 3/4] eal/x86: support reading Intel " Tomasz Duszynski
2022-11-21 12:11   ` [PATCH v2 4/4] eal: add PMU support to tracing library Tomasz Duszynski
2022-11-29  9:28   ` [PATCH v3 0/4] add support for self monitoring Tomasz Duszynski
2022-11-29  9:28     ` [PATCH v3 1/4] eal: add generic support for reading PMU events Tomasz Duszynski
2022-11-30  8:32       ` zhoumin
2022-12-13  8:05         ` [EXT] " Tomasz Duszynski
2022-11-29  9:28     ` [PATCH v3 2/4] eal/arm: support reading ARM PMU events in runtime Tomasz Duszynski
2022-11-29  9:28     ` [PATCH v3 3/4] eal/x86: support reading Intel " Tomasz Duszynski
2022-11-29  9:28     ` [PATCH v3 4/4] eal: add PMU support to tracing library Tomasz Duszynski
2022-11-29 10:42     ` [PATCH v3 0/4] add support for self monitoring Morten Brørup
2022-12-13  8:23       ` Tomasz Duszynski
2022-12-13 10:43     ` [PATCH v4 " Tomasz Duszynski
2022-12-13 10:43       ` [PATCH v4 1/4] eal: add generic support for reading PMU events Tomasz Duszynski
2022-12-13 11:52         ` Morten Brørup
2022-12-14  9:38           ` Tomasz Duszynski
2022-12-14 10:41             ` Morten Brørup
2022-12-15  8:22               ` Morten Brørup
2022-12-16  7:33                 ` Morten Brørup
2023-01-05 21:14               ` Tomasz Duszynski
2023-01-05 22:07                 ` Morten Brørup
2023-01-08 15:41                   ` Tomasz Duszynski
2023-01-08 16:30                     ` Morten Brørup
2022-12-15  8:46         ` Mattias Rönnblom
2023-01-04 15:47           ` Tomasz Duszynski
2023-01-09  7:37         ` Ruifeng Wang
2023-01-09 15:40           ` Tomasz Duszynski
2022-12-13 10:43       ` [PATCH v4 2/4] eal/arm: support reading ARM PMU events in runtime Tomasz Duszynski
2022-12-13 10:43       ` [PATCH v4 3/4] eal/x86: support reading Intel " Tomasz Duszynski
2022-12-13 10:43       ` [PATCH v4 4/4] eal: add PMU support to tracing library Tomasz Duszynski
2023-01-10 23:46       ` [PATCH v5 0/4] add support for self monitoring Tomasz Duszynski
2023-01-10 23:46         ` [PATCH v5 1/4] eal: add generic support for reading PMU events Tomasz Duszynski
2023-01-11  9:05           ` Morten Brørup
2023-01-11 16:20             ` Tomasz Duszynski
2023-01-11 16:54               ` Morten Brørup
2023-01-10 23:46         ` [PATCH v5 2/4] eal/arm: support reading ARM PMU events in runtime Tomasz Duszynski
2023-01-10 23:46         ` [PATCH v5 3/4] eal/x86: support reading Intel " Tomasz Duszynski
2023-01-10 23:46         ` [PATCH v5 4/4] eal: add PMU support to tracing library Tomasz Duszynski
2023-01-11  0:32         ` [PATCH v5 0/4] add support for self monitoring Tyler Retzlaff
2023-01-11  9:31           ` Morten Brørup
2023-01-11 14:24             ` Tomasz Duszynski
2023-01-11 14:32               ` Bruce Richardson
2023-01-11  9:39           ` [EXT] " Tomasz Duszynski
2023-01-11 21:05             ` Tyler Retzlaff [this message]
2023-01-13  7:44               ` Tomasz Duszynski
2023-01-13 19:22                 ` Tyler Retzlaff
2023-01-14  9:53                   ` Morten Brørup
2023-01-19 23:39         ` [PATCH v6 " Tomasz Duszynski
2023-01-19 23:39           ` [PATCH v6 1/4] lib: add generic support for reading PMU events Tomasz Duszynski
2023-01-20  9:46             ` Morten Brørup
2023-01-26  9:40               ` Tomasz Duszynski
2023-01-26 12:29                 ` Morten Brørup
2023-01-26 12:59                   ` Bruce Richardson
2023-01-26 15:28                     ` [EXT] " Tomasz Duszynski
2023-02-02 14:27                       ` Morten Brørup
2023-01-26 15:17                   ` Tomasz Duszynski
2023-01-20 18:29             ` Tyler Retzlaff
2023-01-26  9:05               ` [EXT] " Tomasz Duszynski
2023-01-19 23:39           ` [PATCH v6 2/4] pmu: support reading ARM PMU events in runtime Tomasz Duszynski
2023-01-19 23:39           ` [PATCH v6 3/4] pmu: support reading Intel x86_64 " Tomasz Duszynski
2023-01-19 23:39           ` [PATCH v6 4/4] eal: add PMU support to tracing library Tomasz Duszynski
2023-02-01 13:17           ` [PATCH v7 0/4] add support for self monitoring Tomasz Duszynski
2023-02-01 13:17             ` [PATCH v7 1/4] lib: add generic support for reading PMU events Tomasz Duszynski
2023-02-01 13:17             ` [PATCH v7 2/4] pmu: support reading ARM PMU events in runtime Tomasz Duszynski
2023-02-01 13:17             ` [PATCH v7 3/4] pmu: support reading Intel x86_64 " Tomasz Duszynski
2023-02-01 13:17             ` [PATCH v7 4/4] eal: add PMU support to tracing library Tomasz Duszynski
2023-02-01 13:51             ` [PATCH v7 0/4] add support for self monitoring Morten Brørup
2023-02-02  7:54               ` Tomasz Duszynski
2023-02-02  9:43             ` [PATCH v8 " Tomasz Duszynski
2023-02-02  9:43               ` [PATCH v8 1/4] lib: add generic support for reading PMU events Tomasz Duszynski
2023-02-02 10:32                 ` Ruifeng Wang
2023-02-02  9:43               ` [PATCH v8 2/4] pmu: support reading ARM PMU events in runtime Tomasz Duszynski
2023-02-02  9:43               ` [PATCH v8 3/4] pmu: support reading Intel x86_64 " Tomasz Duszynski
2023-02-02  9:43               ` [PATCH v8 4/4] eal: add PMU support to tracing library Tomasz Duszynski
2023-02-02 12:49               ` [PATCH v9 0/4] add support for self monitoring Tomasz Duszynski
2023-02-02 12:49                 ` [PATCH v9 1/4] lib: add generic support for reading PMU events Tomasz Duszynski
2023-02-06 11:02                   ` David Marchand
2023-02-09 11:09                     ` [EXT] " Tomasz Duszynski
2023-02-02 12:49                 ` [PATCH v9 2/4] pmu: support reading ARM PMU events in runtime Tomasz Duszynski
2023-02-02 12:49                 ` [PATCH v9 3/4] pmu: support reading Intel x86_64 " Tomasz Duszynski
2023-02-02 12:49                 ` [PATCH v9 4/4] eal: add PMU support to tracing library Tomasz Duszynski
2023-02-13 11:31                 ` [PATCH v10 0/4] add support for self monitoring Tomasz Duszynski
2023-02-13 11:31                   ` [PATCH v10 1/4] lib: add generic support for reading PMU events Tomasz Duszynski
2023-02-16  7:39                     ` Ruifeng Wang
2023-02-16 14:44                       ` Tomasz Duszynski
2023-02-13 11:31                   ` [PATCH v10 2/4] pmu: support reading ARM PMU events in runtime Tomasz Duszynski
2023-02-16  7:41                     ` Ruifeng Wang
2023-02-13 11:31                   ` [PATCH v10 3/4] pmu: support reading Intel x86_64 " Tomasz Duszynski
2023-02-13 11:31                   ` [PATCH v10 4/4] eal: add PMU support to tracing library Tomasz Duszynski
2023-02-16 17:54                   ` [PATCH v11 0/4] add support for self monitoring Tomasz Duszynski
2023-02-16 17:54                     ` [PATCH v11 1/4] lib: add generic support for reading PMU events Tomasz Duszynski
2023-02-16 23:50                       ` Konstantin Ananyev
2023-02-17  8:49                         ` [EXT] " Tomasz Duszynski
2023-02-17 10:14                           ` Konstantin Ananyev
2023-02-19 14:23                             ` Tomasz Duszynski
2023-02-20 14:31                               ` Konstantin Ananyev
2023-02-20 16:59                                 ` Tomasz Duszynski
2023-02-20 17:21                                   ` Konstantin Ananyev
2023-02-20 20:42                                     ` Tomasz Duszynski
2023-02-21  0:48                                       ` Konstantin Ananyev
2023-02-27  8:12                                         ` Tomasz Duszynski
2023-02-28 11:35                                           ` Konstantin Ananyev
2023-02-21 12:15                           ` Konstantin Ananyev
2023-02-21  2:17                       ` Konstantin Ananyev
2023-02-27  9:19                         ` [EXT] " Tomasz Duszynski
2023-02-27 20:53                           ` Konstantin Ananyev
2023-02-28  8:25                             ` Morten Brørup
2023-02-28 12:04                               ` Konstantin Ananyev
2023-02-28 13:15                                 ` Morten Brørup
2023-02-28 16:22                                 ` Morten Brørup
2023-03-05 16:30                                   ` Konstantin Ananyev
2023-02-28  9:57                             ` Tomasz Duszynski
2023-02-28 11:58                               ` Konstantin Ananyev
2023-02-16 17:55                     ` [PATCH v11 2/4] pmu: support reading ARM PMU events in runtime Tomasz Duszynski
2023-02-16 17:55                     ` [PATCH v11 3/4] pmu: support reading Intel x86_64 " Tomasz Duszynski
2023-02-16 17:55                     ` [PATCH v11 4/4] eal: add PMU support to tracing library Tomasz Duszynski
2023-02-16 18:03                     ` [PATCH v11 0/4] add support for self monitoring Ruifeng Wang
2023-05-04  8:02                     ` David Marchand
2023-07-31 12:33                       ` Thomas Monjalon
2023-08-07  8:11                         ` [EXT] " Tomasz Duszynski
2023-09-21  8:26                           ` David Marchand
2023-01-25 10:33         ` [PATCH 0/2] add platform bus Tomasz Duszynski
2023-01-25 10:33           ` [PATCH 1/2] lib: add helper to read strings from sysfs files Tomasz Duszynski
2023-01-25 10:39             ` Thomas Monjalon
2023-01-25 16:16               ` Tyler Retzlaff
2023-01-26  8:30                 ` [EXT] " Tomasz Duszynski
2023-01-26 17:21                   ` Tyler Retzlaff
2023-01-26  8:35               ` Tomasz Duszynski
2023-01-25 10:33           ` [PATCH 2/2] bus: add platform bus Tomasz Duszynski
2023-01-25 10:41           ` [PATCH 0/2] " Tomasz Duszynski
2023-02-16 20:56         ` [PATCH v5 0/4] add support for self monitoring Liang Ma

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