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From: Thomas Monjalon <thomas@monjalon.net>
To: Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org>
Cc: dev@dpdk.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 00/13] Replace us of term abort
Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2023 23:19:23 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20915743.0c2gjJ1VT2@thomas> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230906123957.6a011244@hermes.local>

06/09/2023 21:39, Stephen Hemminger:
> On Wed, 30 Aug 2023 18:49:14 +0200
> Thomas Monjalon <thomas@monjalon.net> wrote:
> 
> > I don't feel the rationale should be followed here.
> > If there are better terms, why not.
> > But really, "abort" is not only medical.
> > And banning this word may be felt as a political position,
> > which is not what we want.
> > 
> > I am OK to replace if there is a better word in some contexts,
> > but we should not make it forbidden.
> 
> There are two overlapping reasons behind this.
> First, any reference to abortion in the US is a political hot button.

Sorry that you live in such a country ;)

> Therefore the recommendation is to avoid the term.
> 
> The other reason is that the term may raise some negative feelings
> from people that have had to have an abortion.

Forbidding the word may be understood as the opposite reason.
That's why I think we should not forbid the word officially.

> According to the etymology sites and dictionary sites
> I looked at the term comes from a strictly medical point of view:
>  https://www.etymonline.com/word/abortion
>  https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/abort
> It looks like the secondary meaning in computer science came later.
> It would be best if the term could be avoid if possible.

If there are better alternatives, let's use them for the only reason
they are better understood in their respective context.



  reply	other threads:[~2023-09-06 21:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-08-18  2:52 [PATCH 00/14] remove use " Stephen Hemminger
2023-08-18  2:52 ` [PATCH 01/14] jobstats: change jobstats_abort to jobstats_cancel Stephen Hemminger
2023-08-18  9:08   ` Bruce Richardson
2023-08-18 16:10     ` Stephen Hemminger
2023-08-18  2:52 ` [PATCH 02/14] all: remove use of word abort Stephen Hemminger
2023-08-18  4:04   ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2023-08-18  2:52 ` [PATCH 03/14] pipeline: remove use of term abort Stephen Hemminger
2023-08-18  2:52 ` [PATCH 04/14] net/vmxnet3: replace abort() with rte_panic() Stephen Hemminger
2023-08-18  2:52 ` [PATCH 05/14] event/dlb2: remove word abort in comments Stephen Hemminger
2023-08-18  2:52 ` [PATCH 06/14] net/vdev_netvsc: replace use of term abort Stephen Hemminger
2023-08-18  2:52 ` [PATCH 07/14] net/netvsc: replace abort with cancel Stephen Hemminger
2023-08-18  2:52 ` [PATCH 08/14] net/ionic: remove word aborting Stephen Hemminger
2023-08-18  2:52 ` [PATCH 09/14] net/bnx2x: replace abort with cancel Stephen Hemminger
2023-08-18  2:52 ` [PATCH 10/14] net/mlx5: " Stephen Hemminger
2023-08-18  2:52 ` [PATCH 11/14] net/softnic: " Stephen Hemminger
2023-08-18  2:52 ` [PATCH 12/14] net/mlx4: remove word abort Stephen Hemminger
2023-08-18  2:52 ` [PATCH 13/14] sfc: remove use of term abort Stephen Hemminger
2023-08-18  2:52 ` [PATCH 14/14] net/axgbe: replace word abort Stephen Hemminger
2023-08-18 17:45 ` [PATCH v2 00/13] Replace us of term abort Stephen Hemminger
2023-08-18 17:45   ` [PATCH v2 01/13] jobstats: change jobstats_abort to jobstats_cancel Stephen Hemminger
2023-08-18 17:45   ` [PATCH v2 02/13] all: remove use of word abort Stephen Hemminger
2023-08-18 17:45   ` [PATCH v2 03/13] pipeline: remove use of term abort Stephen Hemminger
2023-08-18 17:45   ` [PATCH v2 04/13] net/vmxnet3: replace abort() with rte_panic() Stephen Hemminger
2023-08-18 17:45   ` [PATCH v2 05/13] event/dlb2: remove word abort in comments Stephen Hemminger
2023-08-18 17:45   ` [PATCH v2 06/13] net/vdev_netvsc: replace use of term abort Stephen Hemminger
2023-08-18 17:45   ` [PATCH v2 07/13] net/netvsc: replace abort with cancel Stephen Hemminger
2023-08-18 22:26     ` Long Li
2023-08-18 17:45   ` [PATCH v2 08/13] net/ionic: remove word aborting Stephen Hemminger
2023-08-18 17:45   ` [PATCH v2 09/13] net/bnx2x: replace abort with cancel Stephen Hemminger
2023-08-18 17:45   ` [PATCH v2 10/13] net/mlx5: " Stephen Hemminger
2023-08-18 17:45   ` [PATCH v2 11/13] net/softnic: " Stephen Hemminger
2023-08-18 17:45   ` [PATCH v2 12/13] net/mlx4: remove word abort Stephen Hemminger
2023-08-18 17:45   ` [PATCH v2 13/13] net/axgbe: replace " Stephen Hemminger
2023-08-30 16:49   ` [PATCH v2 00/13] Replace us of term abort Thomas Monjalon
2023-09-06 19:39     ` Stephen Hemminger
2023-09-06 21:19       ` Thomas Monjalon [this message]
2023-09-06 23:03         ` Stephen Hemminger

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