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From: "Ananyev, Konstantin" <konstantin.ananyev@intel.com>
To: "Yigit, Ferruh" <ferruh.yigit@intel.com>,
	Shahaf Shuler <shahafs@mellanox.com>,
	Thomas Monjalon <thomas@monjalon.net>
Cc: "dev@dpdk.org" <dev@dpdk.org>
Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [RFC PATCH 4/4] ethdev: add helpers to move to the new offloads API
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2017 10:16:23 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2601191342CEEE43887BDE71AB9772584F23E217@IRSMSX103.ger.corp.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8503fb63-7ea3-4c81-6781-fa19569b7ad0@intel.com>

Hi Ferruh,

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Yigit, Ferruh
> Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2017 8:51 AM
> To: Shahaf Shuler <shahafs@mellanox.com>; Thomas Monjalon <thomas@monjalon.net>; Ananyev, Konstantin
> <konstantin.ananyev@intel.com>
> Cc: dev@dpdk.org
> Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [RFC PATCH 4/4] ethdev: add helpers to move to the new offloads API
> 
> On 8/30/2017 7:30 AM, Shahaf Shuler wrote:
> > Tuesday, August 29, 2017 3:55 PM, Ferruh Yigit:
> >>>> Considering the re-configuration is risky, and without other ideas I will
> >> need to fall back to the error flow case.
> >>>> Are we OK with that?
> >>>
> >>> I think we can take the risk of keeping this call to
> >>> rte_eth_dev_configure() in the middle of rte_eth_rx_queue_setup().
> >>> In theory it should be acceptable.
> >>> If we merge it soon, it can be better tested with every drivers.
> >>
> >> I doubt about taking that risk. Some driver does HW configuration via
> >> configure() and combination of start/stop, setup_queue and configure can
> >> be complex.
> >>
> >> I am for generating error for this case.
> >>
> >> Generating error also can be good motivation for PMDs to adapt new
> >> method.
> >
> > Adding Ananyev suggestion from other thread:
> > For tx_prepare() work, we used the following approach:
> > 1. submitted patch with changes in rte_ethdev and PMDs we  are familiar with (Intel ones).
> >     For other PMDs - patch contained just minimal changes to make it build cleanly.
> > 2. Asked other PMD maintainers to review rte_ethdev changes and provide a proper patch
> >     for the PMD they own.
> 
> tx_prepare() is a little different, since it was not clear if all PMDs
> needs updating that is why asked to PMD owners, and the ones requires
> updating already has been updated with ethdev patch. Here we know all
> PMDs need updating, and they need proper time in advance.
> 
> >
> > So I am OK with both suggestions. Meaning:
> > 1. Define the case were application use the new offloads API with PMD which supports the old one as an error.
> > 2. apply patches to ethdev with the above behavior.
> >
> > Just to emphasize, it means that PMDs which won't move to the new API by the end of 17.11 will not be able to run with any of the
> examples and application on DPDK tree (and also with other applications which moved to the new API), as I plan to submit patches which
> convert them all to the new API.
> 
> I think it is good idea to update samples/apps to new method, but this
> can be short notice for PMD owners.
> 
> Can we wait one more release to update samples/apps, to give time for
> PMDs to be updated, since old applications will work with new PMDs
> (thanks to your helpers), I believe this won't be a problem.

I am not sure what is your suggestion here?
Support both flavors of PMD API for 17.11? 
Konstantin

> 
> >
> > Any objection to this approach?
> >
> >


  reply	other threads:[~2017-08-30 10:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-08-07 10:54 [dpdk-dev] [RFC PATCH 0/4] ethdev " Shahaf Shuler
2017-08-07 10:54 ` [dpdk-dev] [RFC PATCH 1/4] ethdev: rename Rx and Tx configuration structs Shahaf Shuler
2017-08-23 21:39   ` Thomas Monjalon
2017-08-07 10:54 ` [dpdk-dev] [RFC PATCH 2/4] ethdev: introduce Rx queue offloads API Shahaf Shuler
2017-08-23 12:21   ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2017-08-23 13:06     ` Shahaf Shuler
2017-08-23 21:48   ` Thomas Monjalon
2017-08-29 12:50   ` Ferruh Yigit
2017-08-30  6:22     ` Shahaf Shuler
2017-08-29 13:11   ` Ferruh Yigit
2017-08-07 10:54 ` [dpdk-dev] [RFC PATCH 3/4] ethdev: introduce Tx " Shahaf Shuler
2017-08-07 10:54 ` [dpdk-dev] [RFC PATCH 4/4] ethdev: add helpers to move to the new " Shahaf Shuler
2017-08-23 12:28   ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2017-08-23 13:13     ` Shahaf Shuler
2017-08-23 22:06       ` Thomas Monjalon
2017-08-24  7:12         ` Shahaf Shuler
2017-08-25 13:26           ` Thomas Monjalon
2017-08-29 12:55             ` Ferruh Yigit
2017-08-30  6:30               ` Shahaf Shuler
2017-08-30  7:50                 ` Ferruh Yigit
2017-08-30 10:16                   ` Ananyev, Konstantin [this message]
2017-08-30 12:42                     ` Ferruh Yigit
2017-08-30 13:25                       ` Thomas Monjalon
2017-08-30 14:15                       ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2017-08-28 14:12       ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2017-08-29  6:26         ` Shahaf Shuler
2017-08-29  9:43           ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2017-08-23  6:39 ` [dpdk-dev] [RFC PATCH 0/4] ethdev " Shahaf Shuler
2017-08-23 22:16 ` Thomas Monjalon
2017-08-25 10:31 ` Jerin Jacob
2017-08-27  6:05   ` Shahaf Shuler
2017-08-28  5:00     ` Jerin Jacob
2017-08-28 10:57       ` Thomas Monjalon
2017-09-05  7:07         ` Jerin Jacob

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