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From: "Ananyev, Konstantin" <konstantin.ananyev@intel.com>
To: "Gaëtan Rivet" <gaetan.rivet@6wind.com>,
	"Matan Azrad" <matan@mellanox.com>
Cc: Thomas Monjalon <thomas@monjalon.net>,
	"Wu, Jingjing" <jingjing.wu@intel.com>,
	"dev@dpdk.org" <dev@dpdk.org>,
	Neil Horman <nhorman@tuxdriver.com>,
	"Richardson, Bruce" <bruce.richardson@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 7/7] app/testpmd: adjust ethdev port ownership
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2018 12:28:12 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2601191342CEEE43887BDE71AB97725886281B1D@irsmsx105.ger.corp.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180119150017.mljpcdmldqx32mkq@bidouze.vm.6wind.com>

Hi lads,

> 
> Hi Matan,
> 
> On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 01:35:10PM +0000, Matan Azrad wrote:
> > Hi Konstantin
> >
> > From: Ananyev, Konstantin, Friday, January 19, 2018 3:09 PM
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Matan Azrad [mailto:matan@mellanox.com]
> > > > Sent: Friday, January 19, 2018 12:52 PM
> > > > To: Ananyev, Konstantin <konstantin.ananyev@intel.com>; Thomas
> > > > Monjalon <thomas@monjalon.net>; Gaetan Rivet
> > > <gaetan.rivet@6wind.com>;
> > > > Wu, Jingjing <jingjing.wu@intel.com>
> > > > Cc: dev@dpdk.org; Neil Horman <nhorman@tuxdriver.com>; Richardson,
> > > > Bruce <bruce.richardson@intel.com>
> > > > Subject: RE: [PATCH v3 7/7] app/testpmd: adjust ethdev port ownership
> > > >
> > > > Hi Konstantin
> > > >
> > > > From: Ananyev, Konstantin, Friday, January 19, 2018 2:38 PM
> > > > > To: Matan Azrad <matan@mellanox.com>; Thomas Monjalon
> > > > > <thomas@monjalon.net>; Gaetan Rivet <gaetan.rivet@6wind.com>;
> > > Wu,
> > > > > Jingjing <jingjing.wu@intel.com>
> > > > > Cc: dev@dpdk.org; Neil Horman <nhorman@tuxdriver.com>; Richardson,
> > > > > Bruce <bruce.richardson@intel.com>
> > > > > Subject: RE: [PATCH v3 7/7] app/testpmd: adjust ethdev port
> > > > > ownership
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi Matan,
> > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Matan Azrad [mailto:matan@mellanox.com]
> > > > > > Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2018 4:35 PM
> > > > > > To: Thomas Monjalon <thomas@monjalon.net>; Gaetan Rivet
> > > > > > <gaetan.rivet@6wind.com>; Wu, Jingjing <jingjing.wu@intel.com>
> > > > > > Cc: dev@dpdk.org; Neil Horman <nhorman@tuxdriver.com>;
> > > Richardson,
> > > > > > Bruce <bruce.richardson@intel.com>; Ananyev, Konstantin
> > > > > > <konstantin.ananyev@intel.com>
> > > > > > Subject: [PATCH v3 7/7] app/testpmd: adjust ethdev port ownership
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Testpmd should not use ethdev ports which are managed by other
> > > > > > DPDK entities.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Set Testpmd ownership to each port which is not used by other
> > > > > > entity and prevent any usage of ethdev ports which are not owned by
> > > Testpmd.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Signed-off-by: Matan Azrad <matan@mellanox.com>
> > > > > > ---
> > > > > >  app/test-pmd/cmdline.c      | 89 +++++++++++++++++++-----------------
> > > ----
> > > > > -----
> > > > > >  app/test-pmd/cmdline_flow.c |  2 +-
> > > > > >  app/test-pmd/config.c       | 37 ++++++++++---------
> > > > > >  app/test-pmd/parameters.c   |  4 +-
> > > > > >  app/test-pmd/testpmd.c      | 63 ++++++++++++++++++++------------
> > > > > >  app/test-pmd/testpmd.h      |  3 ++
> > > > > >  6 files changed, 103 insertions(+), 95 deletions(-)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > diff --git a/app/test-pmd/cmdline.c b/app/test-pmd/cmdline.c index
> > > > > > 31919ba..6199c64 100644
> > > > > > --- a/app/test-pmd/cmdline.c
> > > > > > +++ b/app/test-pmd/cmdline.c
> > > > > > @@ -1394,7 +1394,7 @@ struct cmd_config_speed_all {
> > > > > >  			&link_speed) < 0)
> > > > > >  		return;
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -	RTE_ETH_FOREACH_DEV(pid) {
> > > > > > +	RTE_ETH_FOREACH_DEV_OWNED_BY(pid, my_owner.id) {
> > > > >
> > > > > Why do we need all these changes?
> > > > > As I understand you changed definition of RTE_ETH_FOREACH_DEV(), so
> > > > > no testpmd should work ok default (no_owner case).
> > > > > Am I missing something here?
> > > >
> > > > Now, After Gaetan suggestion RTE_ETH_FOREACH_DEV(pid) will iterate
> > > over all valid and ownerless ports.
> > >
> > > Yes.
> > >
> > > > Here Testpmd wants to iterate over its owned ports.
> > >
> > > Why? Why it can't just iterate over all valid and ownerless ports?
> > > As I understand it would be enough to fix current problems and would allow
> > > us to avoid any changes in testmpd (which I think is a good thing).
> >
> > Yes, I understand that this big change is very daunted, But I think the current a lot of bugs in testpmd(regarding port ownership) even more
> daunted.
> >
> > Look,
> > Testpmd initiates some of its internal databases depends on specific port iteration,
> > In some time someone may take ownership of Testpmd ports and testpmd will continue to touch them.

But if someone will take the ownership (assign new owner_id) that port will not appear
in RTE_ETH_FOREACH_DEV() any more.

> >
> 
> If I look back on the fail-safe, its sole purpose is to have seamless
> hotplug with existing applications.
> 
> Port ownership is a genericization of some functions introduced by the
> fail-safe, that could structure DPDK further. It should allow
> applications to have a seamless integration with subsystems using port
> ownership. Without this, port ownership cannot be used.
> 
> Testpmd should be fixed, but follow the most common design patterns of
> DPDK applications. Going with port ownership seems like a paradigm
> shift.
> 
> > In addition
> > Using the old iterator in some places in testpmd will cause a race for run-time new ports(can be created by failsafe or any hotplug code):
> > - testpmd finds an ownerless port(just now created) by the old iterator and start traffic there,
> > - failsafe takes ownership of this new port and start traffic there.
> > Problem!

Could you shed a bit more light here - it would be race condition between whom and whom?
As I remember in testpmd all control ops are done within one thread (main lcore).
The only way to attach/detach port with it - invoke testpmd CLI "attach/detach" port.

Konstantin

> 
> Testpmd does not handle detection of new port. If it did, testing
> fail-safe with it would be wrong.
> 
> At startup, RTE_ETH_FOREACH_DEV already fixed the issue of registering
> DEFERRED ports. There are still remaining issues regarding this, but I
> think they should be fixed. The architecture does not need to be
> completely moved to port ownership.
> 
> If anything, this should serve as a test for your API with common
> applications. I think you'd prefer to know and debug with testpmd
> instead of firing up VPP or something like that to determine what went
> wrong with using the fail-safe.
> 
> >
> > In addition
> > As a good example for well-done application (free from ownership bugs) I tried here to adjust Tespmd to the new rules and BTW to fix a
> lot of bugs.
> 
> Testpmd has too much cruft, it won't ever be a good example of a
> well-done application.
> 
> If you want to demonstrate ownership, I think you should start an
> example application demonstrating race conditions and their mitigation.
> 
> I think that would be interesting for many DPDK users.
> 
> >
> >
> > So actually applications which are not aware to the port ownership still are exposed to races, but if there use the old iterator(with the new
> change) the amount of races decreases.
> >
> > Thanks, Matan.
> > > Konstantin
> > >
> > > >
> > > > I added to Testpmd ability to take an ownership of ports as the new
> > > > ownership and synchronization rules suggested, Since Tespmd is a DPDK
> > > > entity which wants that no one will touch its owned ports, It must allocate
> > > an unique ID, set owner for its ports (see in main function) and recognizes
> > > them by its owner ID.
> > > >
> > > > > Konstantin
> > > > >
> 
> Regards,
> --
> Gaëtan Rivet
> 6WIND

  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-01-22 12:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 212+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-11-28 11:57 [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 0/5] ethdev: Port ownership Matan Azrad
2017-11-28 11:57 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 1/5] ethdev: free a port by a dedicated API Matan Azrad
2017-11-28 11:57 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 2/5] ethdev: add port ownership Matan Azrad
2017-11-30 12:36   ` Neil Horman
2017-11-30 13:24     ` Gaëtan Rivet
2017-11-30 14:30       ` Matan Azrad
2017-11-30 15:09         ` Gaëtan Rivet
2017-11-30 15:43           ` Matan Azrad
2017-12-01 12:09       ` Neil Horman
2017-12-03  8:04         ` Matan Azrad
2017-12-03 11:10           ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2017-12-03 13:46             ` Matan Azrad
2017-12-04 16:01               ` Neil Horman
2017-12-04 18:10                 ` Matan Azrad
2017-12-04 22:30                   ` Neil Horman
2017-12-05  6:08                     ` Matan Azrad
2017-12-05 10:05                       ` Bruce Richardson
2017-12-08 11:35                         ` Thomas Monjalon
2017-12-08 12:31                           ` Neil Horman
2017-12-21 17:06                             ` Thomas Monjalon
2017-12-21 17:43                               ` Neil Horman
2017-12-21 19:37                                 ` Matan Azrad
2017-12-21 20:14                                   ` Neil Horman
2017-12-21 21:57                                     ` Matan Azrad
2017-12-22 14:26                                       ` Neil Horman
2017-12-23 22:36                                         ` Matan Azrad
2017-12-29 16:56                                           ` Neil Horman
2017-12-05 19:26                       ` Neil Horman
2017-12-08 11:06                         ` Thomas Monjalon
2017-12-05 11:12               ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2017-12-05 11:44                 ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2017-12-05 11:53                   ` Thomas Monjalon
2017-12-05 14:56                     ` Bruce Richardson
2017-12-05 14:57                     ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2017-12-05 11:47                 ` Thomas Monjalon
2017-12-05 15:13                   ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2017-12-05 15:49                     ` Thomas Monjalon
2017-11-28 11:57 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 3/5] net/failsafe: free an eth port by a dedicated API Matan Azrad
2017-11-28 11:58 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 4/5] net/failsafe: use ownership mechanism to own ports Matan Azrad
2017-11-28 11:58 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 5/5] app/testpmd: adjust ethdev port ownership Matan Azrad
2018-01-07  9:45 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 0/6] ethdev: " Matan Azrad
2018-01-07  9:45   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 1/6] ethdev: fix port data reset timing Matan Azrad
2018-01-07  9:45   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 2/6] ethdev: add port ownership Matan Azrad
2018-01-10 13:36     ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2018-01-10 16:58       ` Matan Azrad
2018-01-11 12:40         ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2018-01-11 14:51           ` Matan Azrad
2018-01-12  0:02             ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2018-01-12  7:24               ` Matan Azrad
2018-01-15 11:45                 ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2018-01-15 13:09                   ` Matan Azrad
2018-01-15 18:43                     ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2018-01-16  8:04                       ` Matan Azrad
2018-01-16 19:11                         ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2018-01-16 20:32                           ` Matan Azrad
2018-01-17 11:24                             ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2018-01-17 12:05                               ` Matan Azrad
2018-01-17 12:54                                 ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2018-01-17 13:10                                   ` Matan Azrad
2018-01-17 16:52                                     ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2018-01-17 18:02                                       ` Matan Azrad
2018-01-17 20:34                                       ` Matan Azrad
2018-01-18 14:17                                         ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2018-01-18 14:26                                           ` Matan Azrad
2018-01-18 14:41                                             ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2018-01-18 14:45                                               ` Matan Azrad
2018-01-18 14:51                                                 ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2018-01-18 15:00                                                   ` Matan Azrad
2018-01-17 14:00                                 ` Neil Horman
2018-01-17 17:01                                   ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2018-01-18 13:10                                     ` Neil Horman
2018-01-18 14:00                                       ` Matan Azrad
2018-01-18 16:54                                         ` Neil Horman
2018-01-18 17:20                                           ` Matan Azrad
2018-01-18 18:41                                             ` Neil Horman
2018-01-18 20:21                                               ` Matan Azrad
2018-01-19  1:41                                                 ` Neil Horman
2018-01-19  7:14                                                   ` Matan Azrad
2018-01-19  9:30                                                     ` Bruce Richardson
2018-01-19 10:44                                                       ` Matan Azrad
2018-01-19 13:30                                                         ` Neil Horman
2018-01-19 13:57                                                           ` Matan Azrad
2018-01-19 14:13                                                           ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-01-19 15:27                                                             ` Neil Horman
2018-01-19 17:17                                                               ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-01-19 17:43                                                                 ` Neil Horman
2018-01-19 18:12                                                                   ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-01-19 19:47                                                                     ` Neil Horman
2018-01-19 20:19                                                                       ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-01-19 22:52                                                                         ` Neil Horman
2018-01-20  3:38                                                                         ` Tuxdriver
2018-01-20 12:54                                                                       ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2018-01-20 14:02                                                                         ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-01-19 12:55                                                       ` Neil Horman
2018-01-19 13:52                                                     ` Neil Horman
2018-01-18 16:27                                     ` Neil Horman
2018-01-17 17:58                                   ` Matan Azrad
2018-01-18 13:20                                     ` Neil Horman
2018-01-18 14:52                                       ` Matan Azrad
2018-01-19 13:57                                         ` Neil Horman
2018-01-19 14:07                                           ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-01-19 14:32                                             ` Neil Horman
2018-01-19 17:09                                               ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-01-19 17:37                                                 ` Neil Horman
2018-01-19 18:10                                                   ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-01-21 22:12                                                     ` Ferruh Yigit
2018-01-07  9:45   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 3/6] ethdev: synchronize port allocation Matan Azrad
2018-01-07  9:58     ` Matan Azrad
2018-01-07  9:45   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 4/6] net/failsafe: free an eth port by a dedicated API Matan Azrad
2018-01-07  9:45   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 5/6] net/failsafe: use ownership mechanism to own ports Matan Azrad
2018-01-08 10:32     ` Gaëtan Rivet
2018-01-08 11:16       ` Matan Azrad
2018-01-08 11:35         ` Gaëtan Rivet
2018-01-07  9:45   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 6/6] app/testpmd: adjust ethdev port ownership Matan Azrad
2018-01-08 11:39     ` Gaëtan Rivet
2018-01-08 12:30       ` Matan Azrad
2018-01-08 13:30         ` Gaëtan Rivet
2018-01-08 13:55           ` Matan Azrad
2018-01-08 14:21             ` Gaëtan Rivet
2018-01-08 14:42               ` Matan Azrad
2018-01-16  5:53     ` Lu, Wenzhuo
2018-01-16  8:15       ` Matan Azrad
2018-01-17  0:46         ` Lu, Wenzhuo
2018-01-17  8:51           ` Matan Azrad
2018-01-18  0:53             ` Lu, Wenzhuo
2018-01-18 16:35   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 0/7] Port ownership and syncronization Matan Azrad
2018-01-18 16:35     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 1/7] ethdev: fix port data reset timing Matan Azrad
2018-01-18 17:00       ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-01-19 12:38       ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2018-03-05 11:24       ` [dpdk-dev] [dpdk-stable] " Ferruh Yigit
2018-03-05 14:52         ` Matan Azrad
2018-03-05 15:06           ` Ferruh Yigit
2018-03-05 15:12             ` Matan Azrad
2018-03-27 22:37               ` Ferruh Yigit
2018-03-28 12:07                 ` Matan Azrad
2018-03-30 10:39                   ` Ferruh Yigit
2018-04-19 11:07                     ` Ferruh Yigit
2018-04-25 12:16                       ` Matan Azrad
2018-04-25 12:30                         ` Ori Kam
2018-04-25 12:54                         ` Ferruh Yigit
2018-04-25 14:01                           ` Matan Azrad
2018-01-18 16:35     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 2/7] ethdev: fix used portid allocation Matan Azrad
2018-01-18 17:00       ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-01-19 12:40       ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2018-01-20 16:48         ` Matan Azrad
2018-01-20 17:26           ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2018-01-18 16:35     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 3/7] ethdev: add port ownership Matan Azrad
2018-01-18 21:11       ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-01-19 12:41       ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2018-01-18 16:35     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 4/7] ethdev: synchronize port allocation Matan Azrad
2018-01-18 20:43       ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-01-18 20:52         ` Matan Azrad
2018-01-18 21:17           ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-01-19 12:47       ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2018-01-18 16:35     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 5/7] net/failsafe: free an eth port by a dedicated API Matan Azrad
2018-01-18 16:35     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 6/7] net/failsafe: use ownership mechanism to own ports Matan Azrad
2018-01-18 16:35     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 7/7] app/testpmd: adjust ethdev port ownership Matan Azrad
2018-01-19 12:37       ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2018-01-19 12:51         ` Matan Azrad
2018-01-19 13:08           ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2018-01-19 13:35             ` Matan Azrad
2018-01-19 15:00               ` Gaëtan Rivet
2018-01-20 18:14                 ` Matan Azrad
2018-01-22 10:17                   ` Gaëtan Rivet
2018-01-22 11:22                     ` Matan Azrad
2018-01-22 12:28                 ` Ananyev, Konstantin [this message]
2018-01-22 13:22                   ` Matan Azrad
2018-01-22 20:48                     ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2018-01-23  8:54                       ` Matan Azrad
2018-01-23 12:56                         ` Gaëtan Rivet
2018-01-23 14:30                           ` Matan Azrad
2018-01-25  9:36                             ` Matan Azrad
2018-01-25 10:05                               ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-01-25 11:15                                 ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2018-01-25 11:33                                   ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-01-25 11:55                                     ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2018-01-23 13:34                         ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2018-01-23 14:18                           ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-01-23 15:12                             ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2018-01-23 15:18                               ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2018-01-23 17:33                                 ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-01-23 21:18                                   ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2018-01-24  8:10                                     ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-01-24 18:30                                       ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2018-01-25 10:55                                         ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-01-25 11:09                                           ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2018-01-25 11:27                                             ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-01-23 14:43                           ` Matan Azrad
2018-01-20 21:24     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 0/7] Port ownership and syncronization Matan Azrad
2018-01-20 21:24       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 1/7] ethdev: fix port data reset timing Matan Azrad
2018-01-20 21:24       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 2/7] ethdev: fix used portid allocation Matan Azrad
2018-01-20 21:24       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 3/7] ethdev: add port ownership Matan Azrad
2018-01-21 20:43         ` Ferruh Yigit
2018-01-21 20:46         ` Ferruh Yigit
2018-01-20 21:24       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 4/7] ethdev: synchronize port allocation Matan Azrad
2018-01-20 21:24       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 5/7] net/failsafe: free an eth port by a dedicated API Matan Azrad
2018-01-20 21:24       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 6/7] net/failsafe: use ownership mechanism to own ports Matan Azrad
2018-01-20 21:24       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 7/7] app/testpmd: adjust ethdev port ownership Matan Azrad
2018-01-22 16:38       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 0/7] Port ownership and synchronization Matan Azrad
2018-01-22 16:38         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 1/7] ethdev: fix port data reset timing Matan Azrad
2018-01-22 16:38         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 2/7] ethdev: fix used portid allocation Matan Azrad
2018-01-22 16:38         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 3/7] ethdev: add port ownership Matan Azrad
2018-01-22 16:38         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 4/7] ethdev: synchronize port allocation Matan Azrad
2018-01-22 16:38         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 5/7] net/failsafe: free an eth port by a dedicated API Matan Azrad
2018-01-22 16:38         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 6/7] net/failsafe: use ownership mechanism to own ports Matan Azrad
2018-01-22 16:38         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 7/7] app/testpmd: adjust ethdev port ownership Matan Azrad
2018-01-25  1:47           ` Lu, Wenzhuo
2018-01-25  8:30             ` Matan Azrad
2018-01-26  0:50               ` Lu, Wenzhuo
2018-01-29 11:21         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 0/7] Port ownership and synchronization Matan Azrad
2018-01-31 19:53           ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-01-25 14:35     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 0/7] Port ownership and syncronization Ferruh Yigit

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