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From: "Ananyev, Konstantin" <konstantin.ananyev@intel.com>
To: "Yigit, Ferruh" <ferruh.yigit@intel.com>,
	Shreyansh Jain <shreyansh.jain@nxp.com>,
	"Horton, Remy" <remy.horton@intel.com>,
	"dev@dpdk.org" <dev@dpdk.org>
Cc: "Lu, Wenzhuo" <wenzhuo.lu@intel.com>,
	"Wu, Jingjing" <jingjing.wu@intel.com>,
	"Zhang, Qi Z" <qi.z.zhang@intel.com>,
	"Xing, Beilei" <beilei.xing@intel.com>,
	Thomas Monjalon <thomas@monjalon.net>
Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [RFC PATCH v1 1/4] ethdev: add support for PMD-tuned Tx/Rx parameters
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2018 18:53:13 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2601191342CEEE43887BDE71AB9772589E28FD57@irsmsx105.ger.corp.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <591e1a23-8d27-0c59-fd39-0bde9e48e96f@intel.com>



> -----Original Message-----
> From: dev [mailto:dev-bounces@dpdk.org] On Behalf Of Ferruh Yigit
> Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2018 5:52 PM
> To: Shreyansh Jain <shreyansh.jain@nxp.com>; Horton, Remy <remy.horton@intel.com>; dev@dpdk.org
> Cc: Lu, Wenzhuo <wenzhuo.lu@intel.com>; Wu, Jingjing <jingjing.wu@intel.com>; Zhang, Qi Z <qi.z.zhang@intel.com>; Xing, Beilei
> <beilei.xing@intel.com>; Thomas Monjalon <thomas@monjalon.net>
> Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [RFC PATCH v1 1/4] ethdev: add support for PMD-tuned Tx/Rx parameters
> 
> On 3/14/2018 5:23 PM, Shreyansh Jain wrote:
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Ferruh Yigit [mailto:ferruh.yigit@intel.com]
> >> Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2018 10:13 PM
> >> To: Remy Horton <remy.horton@intel.com>; dev@dpdk.org
> >> Cc: Wenzhuo Lu <wenzhuo.lu@intel.com>; Jingjing Wu
> >> <jingjing.wu@intel.com>; Qi Zhang <qi.z.zhang@intel.com>; Beilei Xing
> >> <beilei.xing@intel.com>; Shreyansh Jain <shreyansh.jain@nxp.com>;
> >> Thomas Monjalon <thomas@monjalon.net>
> >> Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [RFC PATCH v1 1/4] ethdev: add support for PMD-
> >> tuned Tx/Rx parameters
> >>
> >> On 3/14/2018 3:48 PM, Remy Horton wrote:
> >>>
> >>> On 14/03/2018 14:43, Ferruh Yigit wrote:
> >>> [..]
> >>>>>  lib/librte_ether/rte_ethdev.c | 18 ++++++++++++++++++
> >>>>>  lib/librte_ether/rte_ethdev.h | 15 +++++++++++++++
> >>>>
> >>>> Can you please remove deprecation notice in this patch.
> >>>
> >>> Done.
> >>>
> >>>>> +	/* Defaults for drivers that don't implement preferred
> >>>>> +	 * queue parameters.
> >>> [..]
> >>>> Not sure about having these defaults here. It is OK to have defaults
> >> in driver,
> >>>> in application or in config file, but I am not sure if putting them
> >> into device
> >>>> abstraction layer hides them.
> >>>>
> >>>> What about not providing any default in ethdev layer, and get zero
> >> as invalid
> >>>> when using them?
> >>>
> >>> This is something I have been thinking about, and I am going to
> >> remove
> >>> them for the V2. Original motive was to avoid breaking testpmd for
> >> PMDs
> >>> that don't give defaults (i.e. almost all of them). The alternative
> >> is
> >>> to put place-holders into all the PMDs themselves, but I am not sure
> >> if
> >>> this is appropriate.
> >>
> >> I think preferred values should be optional, PMD should have right to
> >> not
> >> provide any. Implementation in 4/4 forces preferred values, either in
> >> all PMDs
> >> or in ethdev layer.
> >>
> >> What about changing approach in application:
> >>  is preferred value provided [1] ?
> >>   yes => use it by sending value 0
> >>   no => use application provided value, same as now, so control should
> >> be in
> >> application.
> >>
> >> I am aware this breaks the comfort of just providing 0 and PMD values
> >> will be
> >> used but covers the case there is no PMD values.
> >>
> >> [1]
> >> it can be possible to check if preferred value provided by comparing 0,
> >> but if 0
> >> is a valid value that can be problem. It may not be problem with
> >> current
> >> variables but it may be when this struct extended, it may be good to
> >> think about
> >> alternative here.
> >
> > I don't think we should use the condition of "yes => use it by sending value 0". That is non-intuitive. Ideally, the application should query
> and then if query responds with value as '0' (which can be valid for some variables in future), it sends its own value to setup functions
> (whether '0' or something else, in case of 0 response, would depend on the knob).
> 
> Right, at that stage application already knows what is the preferred value and
> can directly use it.
> 
> 
> Will it be too much to:
> 
> 1) Adding a new field into "rte_eth_[rt]xconf" to say if exists prefer PMD
> values. "prefer_device_values" ?
> Application can provide values as usual, but if that field is set, abstraction
> layer overwrites the application values with PMD preferred ones. If there is no
> PMD preferred values continue using application ones.
> 
> 
> 2) Add a bitwise "is_set" field to new "preferred_size" struct, which may show
> status of other fields in the struct, if PMD set a valid value for them or not,
> so won't have to rely on the 0 check.

That all seems like too much hassle for such small thing.
If we really want to allow PMD not to provide preferred values -
then instead of adding rte_eth_dev_pref_info into dev_info we can simply
introduce a new optional ethdev API call:
rte_eth_get_pref_params() or so.
If the PMD doesn’t want to provide preferred params to the user it simply
wouldn't implement that function. 

Konstantin

> 
> >
> > Existing example applications should be changed for this. It is tedious, but gives a true example usage.
> 
> Applications already needs to be updated to use this, important part is
> modification is optional.
> 
> >


  reply	other threads:[~2018-03-14 18:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 74+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-03-07 12:08 [dpdk-dev] [RFC PATCH v1 0/4] ethdev: add per-PMD tuning of RxTx parmeters Remy Horton
2018-03-07 12:08 ` [dpdk-dev] [RFC PATCH v1 1/4] ethdev: add support for PMD-tuned Tx/Rx parameters Remy Horton
2018-03-14 12:28   ` Shreyansh Jain
2018-03-14 14:09     ` Remy Horton
2018-03-14 14:43   ` Ferruh Yigit
2018-03-14 15:10     ` Shreyansh Jain
2018-03-15  9:02       ` Remy Horton
2018-03-14 15:48     ` Remy Horton
2018-03-14 16:42       ` Ferruh Yigit
2018-03-14 17:23         ` Shreyansh Jain
2018-03-14 17:52           ` Ferruh Yigit
2018-03-14 18:53             ` Ananyev, Konstantin [this message]
2018-03-14 21:02               ` Ferruh Yigit
2018-03-14 21:36                 ` Bruce Richardson
2018-03-15 13:57                   ` Ferruh Yigit
2018-03-15 14:39                     ` Bruce Richardson
2018-03-15 14:57                       ` Ferruh Yigit
2018-03-16 13:54                         ` Shreyansh Jain
2018-03-16 14:18                           ` Bruce Richardson
2018-03-16 15:36                           ` Remy Horton
2018-03-20 15:03                             ` Ferruh Yigit
2018-03-21 10:14                               ` Remy Horton
2018-03-21 13:56                                 ` Ferruh Yigit
2018-03-20 14:54                           ` Ferruh Yigit
2018-03-21  6:51                             ` Shreyansh Jain
2018-03-21 10:02                               ` Ferruh Yigit
2018-03-21 10:45                                 ` Shreyansh Jain
2018-03-15 12:51                 ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2018-03-15 13:57                   ` Ferruh Yigit
2018-03-15 14:42                     ` Bruce Richardson
2018-03-07 12:08 ` [dpdk-dev] [RFC PATCH v1 2/4] net/e1000: add TxRx tuning parameters Remy Horton
2018-03-07 12:08 ` [dpdk-dev] [RFC PATCH v1 3/4] net/i40e: " Remy Horton
2018-03-07 12:08 ` [dpdk-dev] [RFC PATCH v1 4/4] testpmd: make use of per-PMD TxRx parameters Remy Horton
2018-03-21 14:27 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 0/4] ethdev: add per-PMD tuning of RxTx parmeters Remy Horton
2018-03-21 14:27   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 1/4] ethdev: add support for PMD-tuned Tx/Rx parameters Remy Horton
2018-03-28  7:11     ` Shreyansh Jain
2018-03-30 15:40     ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-03-30 15:57       ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-03-31  0:46     ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-03-21 14:27   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 2/4] net/e1000: add TxRx tuning parameters Remy Horton
2018-03-21 14:27   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 3/4] net/i40e: " Remy Horton
2018-03-21 14:27   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 4/4] testpmd: make use of per-PMD TxRx parameters Remy Horton
2018-03-28  7:18     ` Shreyansh Jain
2018-04-03 11:00       ` Remy Horton
2018-03-31  0:01     ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-04-03  8:49       ` Remy Horton
2018-03-27 18:43   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 0/4] ethdev: add per-PMD tuning of RxTx parmeters Ferruh Yigit
2018-03-30 10:34     ` Ferruh Yigit
2018-03-31  0:05       ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-04-04 17:17   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 " Remy Horton
2018-04-04 17:17     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 1/4] ethdev: add support for PMD-tuned Tx/Rx parameters Remy Horton
2018-04-04 18:56       ` De Lara Guarch, Pablo
2018-04-05 10:16         ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-04-04 17:17     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 2/4] net/e1000: add TxRx tuning parameters Remy Horton
2018-04-04 17:17     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 3/4] net/i40e: " Remy Horton
2018-04-04 17:17     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 4/4] testpmd: make use of per-PMD TxRx parameters Remy Horton
2018-04-06 14:49     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 0/4] ethdev: add per-PMD tuning of RxTx parmeters Remy Horton
2018-04-06 14:49       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 1/4] ethdev: add support for PMD-tuned Tx/Rx parameters Remy Horton
2018-04-06 14:50       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 2/4] net/e1000: add TxRx tuning parameters Remy Horton
2018-04-06 14:50       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 3/4] net/i40e: " Remy Horton
2018-04-06 14:50       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 4/4] testpmd: make use of per-PMD TxRx parameters Remy Horton
2018-04-09 12:55         ` Shreyansh Jain
2018-04-09 14:38           ` Remy Horton
2018-04-10  4:18             ` Shreyansh Jain
2018-04-10  6:09               ` Remy Horton
2018-04-10  6:39                 ` Shreyansh Jain
2018-04-06 17:01       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 0/4] ethdev: add per-PMD tuning of RxTx parmeters Ferruh Yigit
2018-04-10  9:43       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 " Remy Horton
2018-04-10  9:43         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 1/4] ethdev: add support for PMD-tuned Tx/Rx parameters Remy Horton
2018-04-10  9:43         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 2/4] net/e1000: add TxRx tuning parameters Remy Horton
2018-04-10  9:43         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 3/4] net/i40e: " Remy Horton
2018-04-10  9:43         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 4/4] testpmd: make use of per-PMD TxRx parameters Remy Horton
2018-04-10 12:57         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 0/4] ethdev: add per-PMD tuning of RxTx parmeters Thomas Monjalon
2018-04-10 18:56         ` Ferruh Yigit

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