From: "Ananyev, Konstantin" <konstantin.ananyev@intel.com>
To: Jerin Jacob <jerin.jacob@caviumnetworks.com>,
Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org>
Cc: "Joseph, Anoob" <Anoob.Joseph@caviumnetworks.com>,
Thomas Monjalon <thomas@monjalon.net>,
"dev@dpdk.org" <dev@dpdk.org>,
"Richardson, Bruce" <bruce.richardson@intel.com>,
"De Lara Guarch, Pablo" <pablo.de.lara.guarch@intel.com>,
Narayana Prasad <narayanaprasad.athreya@caviumnetworks.com>,
Hemant Agrawal <hemant.agrawal@nxp.com>,
Sunil Kumar Kori <sunil.kori@nxp.com>,
"Rao, Nikhil" <nikhil.rao@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 00/12] preparing l2fwd for eventmode additions
Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2018 08:19:53 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <2601191342CEEE43887BDE71AB977258E6D4D959@IRSMSX102.ger.corp.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180801172628.GA471@jerin>
Hi everyone,
> > > >
> > > > In order to get this series accepted, we need more discussions
> > > > with more people involved.
> > > > So it will miss 18.08.
> > > >
> > > > It can be discussed in a more global discussion about examples maintenance.
> > > > If discussion does not happen, you can request it to the technical board.
> > > >
> > > Event dev framework and various adapters enable multiple packet handling
> > > schemes, as opposed to the traditional polling on queues. But these
> > > features are not integrated into any established example application.
> > > There are specific example applications for event dev etc, which can be
> > > used to analyze an event device or a particular eventdev adapter, but
> > > there is no standard application which can be used to compare the real
> > > world performance for a system when it's using event device for packet
> > > handling and when it's done via polling on queues.
> > >
> > > The following patch submitted by Sunil was looking to address this issue
> > > with l3fwd,
> > > https://mails.dpdk.org/archives/dev/2018-March/093131.html
> > >
> > > Bruce & Jerin reviewed the patch and suggested the addition of helper
> > > functions to abstract the event mode additions in applications,
> > > https://mails.dpdk.org/archives/dev/2018-April/096879.html
> > >
> > > This effort of adding helper functions for eventmode was taken up
> > > following the above suggestion. The idea is to add eventmode without
> > > touching the existing code path. All the eventmode specific additions
> > > would go into library so that these need not be repeated for every
> > > application. And since there is no change in the existing code path,
> > > performance for any vendor should not have any impact with the additions.
> > >
> > > The scope of this effort has increased since the submission, as now we
> > > have Tx adapter as well. Sunil & Konstantin had clarified their
> > > concerns, and gave green flag to this approach.
> > > https://mails.dpdk.org/archives/dev/2018-June/105730.html
> > > https://mails.dpdk.org/archives/dev/2018-July/106453.html
> > >
> > > I guess Bruce was opening this question to the community. For compute
> > > intense applications like ipsec-secgw, eventmode might be the right
> > > approach in the first place. Such complex applications would need a
> > > scheduler to perform dynamic load balancing. Addition of eventmode in
> > > l2fwd was to float around the idea which can then be scaled for more
> > > complex applications.
> > >
> > > If maintainers doesn't have any objection to this, I'm fine with adding
> > > this in the next release.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Anoob
> >
> > It is important that DPDK has good examples of how to use existing
> > frameworks and libraries. These applications are what most customers
> > build their applications from and they provide basis for testing.
> >
> > The DPDK needs to continue to support multiple usage models. This
> > is one of its strong points. I would rather leave existing l2fwd
> > and l3fwd alone and instead make new examples that use the frameworks.
> > If nothing else haveing l2fwd and l2fwd-eventdev would allow for
> > performance comparisons.
>
> Unlike other applications example, there wont be any change in packet
> processing functions in eventdev vs poll mode case. Only worker
> schematics will change and that can be moved to separated files.
> something like worker_poll.c and worker_event.c and both of them
> use common packet processing functions using mbuf.
>
> The only disadvantage of having separate application would be packet
> processing code duplication. Which is non trivial for l3fwd, IPSec
> application IMO.
Personally I am ok with original design suggestion:
keep packet processing code common, that would be used by both poll and event modes.
We could just have a command-line parameter in which mode the app will run.
Another alternative - generate two binaries l2fwd-poll, l2fwd-event (or so).
Konstantin
>
> # Are we fine with code duplication in example application like l3fwd and
> IPSec?
> # if yes, Are we fine with keeping l2fwd _as is_ to reduce the
> complexity and l2fwd-eventdev supports both modes wherever possible?
>
> >
> > As the number of examples increases, probably also need to have
> > a roadmap or decision chart to explain the advangage/disadvantage
> > of each architecture.
> >
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-08-02 8:19 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 83+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-06-08 17:09 [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 00/15] " Anoob Joseph
2018-06-08 17:09 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 01/15] examples/l2fwd: add new header to move common code Anoob Joseph
2018-06-08 17:09 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 02/15] examples/l2fwd: move macro definitions to common header Anoob Joseph
2018-06-08 17:09 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 03/15] examples/l2fwd: move structure " Anoob Joseph
2018-06-08 17:09 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 04/15] examples/l2fwd: move globally accessed vars " Anoob Joseph
2018-06-08 17:09 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 05/15] examples/l2fwd: add missing space Anoob Joseph
2018-06-08 17:09 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 06/15] examples/l2fwd: fix lines exceeding 80 char limit Anoob Joseph
2018-06-08 17:09 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 07/15] examples/l2fwd: move dataplane code to new file Anoob Joseph
2018-06-08 17:09 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 08/15] examples/l2fwd: remove unused header includes Anoob Joseph
2018-06-08 17:09 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 09/15] examples/l2fwd: move drain buffers to new function Anoob Joseph
2018-06-08 17:09 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 10/15] examples/l2fwd: optimize check for master core Anoob Joseph
2018-06-08 17:09 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 11/15] examples/l2fwd: move periodic tasks to new function Anoob Joseph
2018-06-08 17:09 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 12/15] examples/l2fwd: skip timer updates for non master cores Anoob Joseph
2018-06-08 17:09 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 13/15] examples/l2fwd: move pkt send code to a new function Anoob Joseph
2018-06-08 17:09 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 14/15] examples/l2fwd: use fprint instead of printf for usage print Anoob Joseph
2018-06-08 17:09 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 15/15] examples/l2fwd: improvements to the " Anoob Joseph
2018-06-14 10:17 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v1 00/15] preparing l2fwd for eventmode additions Anoob Joseph
2018-06-14 10:17 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v1 01/15] examples/l2fwd: add new header to move common code Anoob Joseph
2018-07-09 22:46 ` De Lara Guarch, Pablo
2018-07-10 3:16 ` Anoob Joseph
2018-07-10 10:20 ` De Lara Guarch, Pablo
2018-06-14 10:17 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v1 02/15] examples/l2fwd: move macro definitions to common header Anoob Joseph
2018-06-14 10:17 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v1 03/15] examples/l2fwd: move structure " Anoob Joseph
2018-06-14 10:17 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v1 04/15] examples/l2fwd: move globally accessed vars " Anoob Joseph
2018-06-14 10:17 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v1 05/15] examples/l2fwd: add missing space Anoob Joseph
2018-06-14 10:17 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v1 06/15] examples/l2fwd: fix lines exceeding 80 char limit Anoob Joseph
2018-07-09 22:48 ` De Lara Guarch, Pablo
2018-06-14 10:17 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v1 07/15] examples/l2fwd: move dataplane code to new file Anoob Joseph
2018-06-14 10:17 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v1 08/15] examples/l2fwd: remove unused header includes Anoob Joseph
2018-06-14 10:17 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v1 09/15] examples/l2fwd: move drain buffers to new function Anoob Joseph
2018-07-09 22:49 ` De Lara Guarch, Pablo
2018-07-10 3:17 ` Anoob Joseph
2018-06-14 10:17 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v1 10/15] examples/l2fwd: optimize check for master core Anoob Joseph
2018-06-14 10:17 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v1 11/15] examples/l2fwd: move periodic tasks to new function Anoob Joseph
2018-06-14 10:17 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v1 12/15] examples/l2fwd: skip timer updates for non master cores Anoob Joseph
2018-06-14 10:17 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v1 13/15] examples/l2fwd: move pkt send code to a new function Anoob Joseph
2018-06-14 10:17 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v1 14/15] examples/l2fwd: use fprint instead of printf for usage print Anoob Joseph
2018-06-14 10:17 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v1 15/15] examples/l2fwd: improvements to the " Anoob Joseph
2018-06-14 11:48 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v1 00/15] preparing l2fwd for eventmode additions Anoob Joseph
2018-06-14 11:48 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v1 01/15] examples/l2fwd: add new header to move common code Anoob Joseph
2018-06-14 11:48 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v1 02/15] examples/l2fwd: move macro definitions to common header Anoob Joseph
2018-06-14 11:48 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v1 03/15] examples/l2fwd: move structure " Anoob Joseph
2018-06-14 11:48 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v1 04/15] examples/l2fwd: move globally accessed vars " Anoob Joseph
2018-06-14 11:48 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v1 05/15] examples/l2fwd: add missing space Anoob Joseph
2018-07-09 22:51 ` De Lara Guarch, Pablo
2018-07-10 3:23 ` Anoob Joseph
2018-06-14 11:48 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v1 06/15] examples/l2fwd: fix lines exceeding 80 char limit Anoob Joseph
2018-06-14 11:48 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v1 07/15] examples/l2fwd: move dataplane code to new file Anoob Joseph
2018-06-14 11:48 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v1 08/15] examples/l2fwd: remove unused header includes Anoob Joseph
2018-06-14 11:49 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v1 09/15] examples/l2fwd: move drain buffers to new function Anoob Joseph
2018-06-14 11:49 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v1 10/15] examples/l2fwd: optimize check for master core Anoob Joseph
2018-06-14 11:49 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v1 11/15] examples/l2fwd: move periodic tasks to new function Anoob Joseph
2018-06-14 11:49 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v1 12/15] examples/l2fwd: skip timer updates for non master cores Anoob Joseph
2018-06-14 11:49 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v1 13/15] examples/l2fwd: move pkt send code to a new function Anoob Joseph
2018-06-14 11:49 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v1 14/15] examples/l2fwd: use fprint instead of printf for usage print Anoob Joseph
2018-06-14 11:49 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v1 15/15] examples/l2fwd: improvements to the " Anoob Joseph
2018-06-19 10:04 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v1 00/15] preparing l2fwd for eventmode additions Anoob Joseph
2018-06-19 10:09 ` Bruce Richardson
2018-06-19 14:07 ` Anoob Joseph
2018-07-03 13:16 ` Joseph, Anoob
2018-07-11 6:07 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 00/12] " Anoob Joseph
2018-07-11 6:07 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 01/12] examples/l2fwd: move macro definitions to common header Anoob Joseph
2018-07-11 6:07 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 03/12] examples/l2fwd: move globally accessed vars " Anoob Joseph
2018-07-11 6:07 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 04/12] examples/l2fwd: move dataplane code to new file Anoob Joseph
2018-07-11 6:07 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 05/12] examples/l2fwd: remove unused header includes Anoob Joseph
2018-07-11 6:07 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 06/12] examples/l2fwd: move drain buffers to new function Anoob Joseph
2018-07-11 6:07 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 07/12] examples/l2fwd: optimize check for master core Anoob Joseph
2018-07-11 6:07 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 08/12] examples/l2fwd: move periodic tasks to new function Anoob Joseph
2018-07-11 6:07 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 09/12] examples/l2fwd: skip timer updates for non master cores Anoob Joseph
2018-07-11 6:07 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 10/12] examples/l2fwd: move pkt send code to a new function Anoob Joseph
2018-07-11 6:07 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 11/12] examples/l2fwd: use fprint instead of printf for usage print Anoob Joseph
2018-07-11 6:07 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 12/12] examples/l2fwd: improvements to the " Anoob Joseph
2018-07-26 16:57 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 00/12] preparing l2fwd for eventmode additions Thomas Monjalon
2018-08-01 6:59 ` Joseph, Anoob
2018-08-01 16:54 ` Stephen Hemminger
2018-08-01 17:26 ` Jerin Jacob
2018-08-02 8:19 ` Ananyev, Konstantin [this message]
2018-08-13 7:22 ` Joseph, Anoob
2018-08-13 9:27 ` Bruce Richardson
2018-08-13 15:59 ` Joseph, Anoob
2018-08-14 10:33 ` Bruce Richardson
2018-08-18 9:58 ` Joseph, Anoob
2018-10-29 2:22 ` Thomas Monjalon
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