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From: "O'Driscoll, Tim" <tim.odriscoll@intel.com>
To: "Dumitrescu, Cristian" <cristian.dumitrescu@intel.com>,
	Thomas Monjalon <thomas.monjalon@6wind.com>
Cc: "dev@dpdk.org" <dev@dpdk.org>,
	"jerin.jacob@caviumnetworks.com" <jerin.jacob@caviumnetworks.com>,
	"balasubramanian.manoharan@cavium.com"
	<balasubramanian.manoharan@cavium.com>,
	"hemant.agrawal@nxp.com" <hemant.agrawal@nxp.com>,
	"shreyansh.jain@nxp.com" <shreyansh.jain@nxp.com>,
	"Wiles, Keith" <keith.wiles@intel.com>,
	"Richardson, Bruce" <bruce.richardson@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 2/2] ethdev: add hierarchical scheduler API
Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2017 09:51:51 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <26FA93C7ED1EAA44AB77D62FBE1D27BA7231952B@IRSMSX108.ger.corp.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3EB4FA525960D640B5BDFFD6A3D891265275BDC0@IRSMSX108.ger.corp.intel.com>

> From: Dumitrescu, Cristian
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Thomas Monjalon [mailto:thomas.monjalon@6wind.com]
> > Sent: Monday, March 6, 2017 8:07 PM
> > To: Dumitrescu, Cristian <cristian.dumitrescu@intel.com>
> > Cc: dev@dpdk.org; jerin.jacob@caviumnetworks.com;
> > balasubramanian.manoharan@cavium.com; hemant.agrawal@nxp.com;
> > shreyansh.jain@nxp.com; Wiles, Keith <keith.wiles@intel.com>;
> Richardson,
> > Bruce <bruce.richardson@intel.com>
> > Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 2/2] ethdev: add hierarchical scheduler API
> >
> > 2017-03-06 16:59, Dumitrescu, Cristian:
> > > From: Thomas Monjalon [mailto:thomas.monjalon@6wind.com]
> > > > 2017-03-04 01:10, Cristian Dumitrescu:
> > > > > This patch introduces the generic ethdev API for the traffic
> manager
> > > > > capability, which includes: hierarchical scheduling, traffic
> shaping,
> > > > > congestion management, packet marking.
> > > >
> > > > We already have some API for QoS. Why integrating them in ethdev?
> > > > ethdev is an interface for networking drivers.
> > > > I think the QoS has nothing to do with drivers.
> > > > If there are some operations to offload in drivers, please
> identify them
> > > > and let's add the operations to ethdev.
> > > >
> > >
> > > The reason to add to ethdev is because QoS traffic
> > management/hierarchical scheduling is just another TX offload for
> Ethernet
> > devices. This TX offload is present in NICs, NPUs and SoCs from
> Broadcom,
> > Cavium, Intel, Mellanox, Netronome, NXP, others.
> > >
> > > The API we currently have in DPDK (librte_sched) is great, but it
> refers to
> > an implementation for a fixed set of features for a BRAS-like
> hierarchy. The
> > current abstraction layer proposal is intended to support pretty much
> any
> > hierarchy and traffic management features such as hierarchical
> scheduling,
> > traffic shaping, congestion management, marking under the same API. It
> > targets pretty much any implementation, either HW, SW or hybrid; it
> does
> > support the existing librte_sched library feature set, but it is not
> limited to it.
> >
> > OK I better understand now.
> > You should add this level of explanation in your patch.
> >
> > However I am reluctant to add an API if there is no user.
> > I think we should wait to have at least one existing driver
> implementing
> > this API before integrating it.
> > It was the approach of eventdev which has a dedicated next- tree.
> 
> The next-tree solution could work, but IMO is not the best for this
> case, as this is purely driver development. This is just a TX offload
> feature that is well understood, as opposed to a new library with a huge
> design effort required like eventdev.
> 
> I think we are reasonably close to get agreement on the API from Cavium,
> Intel and NXP. When this is done, how about including it in DPDK with
> the experimental tag attached to it until several drivers implement it?
> 
> From Intel side, there are solid plans to implement it for ixgbe and
> i40e drivers in next DPDK releases, I am CC-ing Tim to confirm this.

That's correct. We plan to add support for this in the ixgbe and i40e drivers in 17.08.

> On
> Cavium and NXP side, Jerin and Hemant can comment on the plans to
> implement this API.

  reply	other threads:[~2017-03-08  9:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-03-04  1:10 [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 0/2] ethdev: abstraction layer for QoS hierarchical scheduler Cristian Dumitrescu
2017-03-04  1:10 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 1/2] ethdev: add capability control API Cristian Dumitrescu
2017-03-06 10:32   ` Thomas Monjalon
2017-03-06 16:35     ` Dumitrescu, Cristian
2017-03-06 16:57       ` Thomas Monjalon
2017-03-06 18:28         ` Dumitrescu, Cristian
2017-03-06 20:21           ` Thomas Monjalon
2017-03-06 20:41             ` Wiles, Keith
2017-03-06 20:54               ` Stephen Hemminger
2017-03-07 10:14                 ` Dumitrescu, Cristian
2017-03-07 12:56                   ` Thomas Monjalon
2017-03-07 19:17                     ` Wiles, Keith
2017-03-06 16:36     ` Dumitrescu, Cristian
2017-05-19 17:12   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 0/2] ethdev: abstraction layer for QoS traffic management Cristian Dumitrescu
2017-05-19 17:12     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 1/2] ethdev: add traffic management ops get API Cristian Dumitrescu
2017-06-09 16:51       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 0/2] ethdev: abstraction layer for QoS traffic management Cristian Dumitrescu
2017-06-09 16:51         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 1/2] ethdev: add traffic management ops get API Cristian Dumitrescu
2017-06-09 16:51         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 2/2] ethdev: add traffic management API Cristian Dumitrescu
2017-06-12  3:36           ` Jerin Jacob
2017-06-12 10:24             ` Dumitrescu, Cristian
2017-06-12 13:35           ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 0/2] ethdev: abstraction layer for QoS traffic management Cristian Dumitrescu
2017-06-12 13:35             ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 1/2] ethdev: add traffic management ops get API Cristian Dumitrescu
2017-06-12 13:35             ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 2/2] ethdev: add traffic management API Cristian Dumitrescu
2017-06-27 13:24             ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 0/2] ethdev: abstraction layer for QoS traffic management Dumitrescu, Cristian
2017-05-19 17:12     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 2/2] ethdev: add traffic management API Cristian Dumitrescu
2017-05-19 17:34       ` Stephen Hemminger
2017-05-22 14:25         ` Dumitrescu, Cristian
2017-05-24 11:28       ` Hemant Agrawal
2017-05-31 13:45       ` Jerin Jacob
2017-05-31 17:05         ` Manoharan, Balasubramanian
2017-03-04  1:10 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 2/2] ethdev: add hierarchical scheduler API Cristian Dumitrescu
2017-03-06 10:38   ` Thomas Monjalon
2017-03-06 16:59     ` Dumitrescu, Cristian
2017-03-06 20:07       ` Thomas Monjalon
2017-03-07 19:29         ` Dumitrescu, Cristian
2017-03-08  9:51           ` O'Driscoll, Tim [this message]
2017-03-10 18:37             ` Dumitrescu, Cristian
2017-03-15 12:43               ` Thomas Monjalon
2017-03-16 16:23                 ` Dumitrescu, Cristian
2017-03-16 17:29                   ` Thomas Monjalon
2017-03-16 17:40                     ` Dumitrescu, Cristian
2017-03-16 18:10                       ` Thomas Monjalon
2017-03-16 19:06                         ` Dumitrescu, Cristian
2017-03-24 19:55                           ` Dumitrescu, Cristian
2017-03-06 16:15   ` Stephen Hemminger
2017-03-06 18:17     ` Dumitrescu, Cristian
2017-03-16 17:35   ` Thomas Monjalon
2017-03-30 10:32   ` Hemant Agrawal
2017-04-07 16:51     ` Dumitrescu, Cristian
2017-04-07 13:20   ` Jerin Jacob
2017-04-07 17:47     ` Dumitrescu, Cristian
2017-04-10 14:00       ` Jerin Jacob

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