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From: Andrew Rybchenko <andrew.rybchenko@oktetlabs.ru>
To: Thomas Monjalon <thomas@monjalon.net>,
	Ivan Malov <ivan.malov@arknetworks.am>
Cc: Ferruh Yigit <ferruh.yigit@amd.com>,
	Jerin Jacob <jerinjacobk@gmail.com>,  Ori Kam <orika@nvidia.com>,
	Nithin Kumar Dabilpuram <ndabilpuram@marvell.com>,
	Aman Singh <aman.deep.singh@intel.com>,
	Yuying Zhang <yuying.zhang@intel.com>,
	"dev@dpdk.org" <dev@dpdk.org>,
	Hanumanth Reddy Pothula <hpothula@marvell.com>,
	Slava Ovsiienko <viacheslavo@nvidia.com>,
	Jerin Jacob Kollanukkaran <jerinj@marvell.com>,
	"david.marchand@redhat.com" <david.marchand@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [EXT] Re: [PATCH v5 2/2] app/testpmd: add command to process Rx metadata negotiation
Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2023 15:21:06 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <297c03eb-8111-898d-4f64-d96f2cb1977e@oktetlabs.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2202391.PYKUYFuaPT@thomas>

On 2/2/23 15:03, Thomas Monjalon wrote:
> 02/02/2023 12:55, Ivan Malov:
>> On Thu, 2 Feb 2023, Thomas Monjalon wrote:
>>
>>> OK we are progressing on this topic :)
>>
>> Indeed we are.
>>
>>>
>>> 02/02/2023 11:48, Ivan Malov:
>>>> I apologise, there was a typo in the previous mail: "PMD does
>>>> not need this API". Should read as "TESTPMD does not need it".
>>>
>>> testpmd needs all ethdev API,
>>> because its purpose is to test the whole all ethdev API.
>>
>> Touché.
>>
>>>
>>> Maybe the use of this function is misplaced in testpmd.
>>> It should be a specific command.
>>
>> So.. indeed. A specific command which, as I said, is
>> invoked explicitly by the person operating testpmd.
>>
>>> By the way, what is the driver default if negotiation is not done?
>>
>> The answer is in the question. It's the driver's default.
>> If the driver believes it shall NOT deliver metadata for
>> the sake of improved performance, default = all disabled.
>> If this delivery is a don't care to performance, then
>> the driver might want to enable everything by default.
>>
>> This decision is made by a PMD maintainer, I take it.
> 
> I think it is better to have the same default for all drivers.
> What others think?

Of course, it would be better since it would simplify
porting apps from one NIC to another.
The problem is that some NICs do not require negotiation
since corresponding data is always available.
If so, the same default should be to provide all Rx metadata
by default. However, it would decrease performance for NIC
NICs with default settings.

(Similar situation is with Rx checksum offload. Some NICs
always calculate Rx checksum and always provide results,
however, it is not a good reason to require it for all NICs.)


  reply	other threads:[~2023-02-02 12:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 73+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-08-01  4:41 [PATCH] app/testpmd: add command line argument 'rx-metadata' Hanumanth Pothula
2022-08-01 13:11 ` Hanumanth Pothula
2022-08-01 13:13 ` Hanumanth Pothula
2022-08-01 19:41   ` Ivan Malov
2022-08-02 16:45   ` [PATCH] app/testpmd: add command line argument 'nic-to-pmd-rx-metadata' Hanumanth Pothula
2022-08-02 16:45     ` [PATCH v2 1/2] version: 22.11-rc0 Hanumanth Pothula
2022-08-02 16:45     ` [PATCH v2 2/2] app/testpmd: add command line argument 'nic-to-pmd-rx-metadata' Hanumanth Pothula
2022-08-02 17:51   ` [PATCH v2 1/1] " Hanumanth Pothula
2022-08-30 12:36     ` Hanumanth Reddy Pothula
2022-09-01  8:03     ` Singh, Aman Deep
2022-10-04 14:48       ` Andrew Rybchenko
2022-10-06 18:35     ` [PATCH v3 1/1] app/testpmd: control passing Rx metadata to PMD Hanumanth Pothula
2022-10-17  8:32       ` Andrew Rybchenko
2022-10-27  7:34         ` Thomas Monjalon
2022-10-27 12:54           ` Thomas Monjalon
2022-12-02 16:14             ` [EXT] " Hanumanth Reddy Pothula
2022-12-02 19:41               ` Thomas Monjalon
2022-12-05  7:59                 ` Hanumanth Reddy Pothula
2022-12-05  8:28                   ` Thomas Monjalon
2022-12-05  9:43                     ` Slava Ovsiienko
2022-12-20 20:02       ` [PATCH v4 1/2] ethdev: control Rx metadata negotiation Hanumanth Pothula
2022-12-20 20:02         ` [PATCH v4 2/2] app/testpmd: add command to process " Hanumanth Pothula
2022-12-20 21:23           ` Stephen Hemminger
2022-12-21  2:07         ` [PATCH v5 1/2] ethdev: fix ethdev configuration state on reset Hanumanth Pothula
2022-12-21  2:07           ` [PATCH v5 2/2] app/testpmd: add command to process Rx metadata negotiation Hanumanth Pothula
2023-01-18 10:32             ` Thomas Monjalon
2023-01-19 10:33               ` [EXT] " Hanumanth Reddy Pothula
2023-01-25 12:51                 ` Thomas Monjalon
2023-01-24 18:04             ` Ferruh Yigit
2023-01-25  9:30               ` [EXT] " Hanumanth Reddy Pothula
2023-01-25 12:55                 ` Thomas Monjalon
2023-01-25 13:55                   ` Ferruh Yigit
2023-01-25 13:59                     ` Thomas Monjalon
2023-01-25 14:42                       ` Nithin Kumar Dabilpuram
2023-01-26 11:03                         ` Thomas Monjalon
2023-01-27  5:02                           ` Nithin Kumar Dabilpuram
2023-01-27  8:54                             ` Thomas Monjalon
2023-01-27 10:42                               ` Nithin Kumar Dabilpuram
2023-01-27 15:01                                 ` Thomas Monjalon
2023-01-31 16:17                                   ` Jerin Jacob
2023-01-31 23:03                                     ` Thomas Monjalon
2023-02-01  6:10                                       ` Ivan Malov
2023-02-01  7:16                                         ` Andrew Rybchenko
2023-02-01  8:53                                           ` Jerin Jacob
2023-02-01  9:00                                             ` Ori Kam
2023-02-01  9:05                                               ` Thomas Monjalon
2023-02-01  9:07                                                 ` Andrew Rybchenko
2023-02-01  9:14                                                   ` Jerin Jacob
2023-02-01  9:29                                                     ` Andrew Rybchenko
2023-02-01 10:48                                                       ` Jerin Jacob
2023-02-01 10:58                                                         ` Andrew Rybchenko
2023-02-01 11:04                                                           ` Thomas Monjalon
2023-02-01 11:15                                                             ` Jerin Jacob
2023-02-01 11:35                                                               ` Ferruh Yigit
2023-02-01 13:48                                                                 ` Jerin Jacob
2023-02-01 14:50                                                                   ` Ferruh Yigit
2023-02-01 15:22                                                                     ` Jerin Jacob
2023-02-02  8:43                                                                       ` Ferruh Yigit
2023-02-02  8:50                                                                         ` Ivan Malov
2023-02-02  9:17                                                                           ` Ferruh Yigit
2023-02-02 10:41                                                                             ` Ivan Malov
2023-02-02 10:48                                                                               ` Ivan Malov
2023-02-02 11:41                                                                                 ` Thomas Monjalon
2023-02-02 11:55                                                                                   ` Ivan Malov
2023-02-02 12:03                                                                                     ` Thomas Monjalon
2023-02-02 12:21                                                                                       ` Andrew Rybchenko [this message]
2023-02-01 11:20                                                             ` Ivan Malov
2023-01-25 13:17                 ` Ferruh Yigit
2023-01-25 13:21                   ` Ferruh Yigit
2023-01-25 13:21                 ` Ferruh Yigit
2023-01-16 10:43           ` [PATCH v5 1/2] ethdev: fix ethdev configuration state on reset Hanumanth Reddy Pothula
2023-01-18 10:29           ` Thomas Monjalon
2023-01-24 18:14             ` Ferruh Yigit

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