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From: Maxime Coquelin <maxime.coquelin@redhat.com>
To: "Wang, Xiao W" <xiao.w.wang@intel.com>, "dev@dpdk.org" <dev@dpdk.org>
Cc: "Wang, Zhihong" <zhihong.wang@intel.com>,
	"yliu@fridaylinux.org" <yliu@fridaylinux.org>,
	"Liang, Cunming" <cunming.liang@intel.com>,
	"Xu, Rosen" <rosen.xu@intel.com>,
	"Chen, Junjie J" <junjie.j.chen@intel.com>,
	"Daly, Dan" <dan.daly@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 0/3] add ifcvf driver
Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2018 11:51:24 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3798273b-1d5e-8399-6bbb-f0242a65c977@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <B7F2E978279D1D49A3034B7786DACF406F8563CC@SHSMSX101.ccr.corp.intel.com>



On 03/23/2018 11:27 AM, Wang, Xiao W wrote:
> Hi Maxime,
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Maxime Coquelin [mailto:maxime.coquelin@redhat.com]
>> Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2018 4:48 AM
>> To: Wang, Xiao W <xiao.w.wang@intel.com>; dev@dpdk.org
>> Cc: Wang, Zhihong <zhihong.wang@intel.com>; yliu@fridaylinux.org; Liang,
>> Cunming <cunming.liang@intel.com>; Xu, Rosen <rosen.xu@intel.com>; Chen,
>> Junjie J <junjie.j.chen@intel.com>; Daly, Dan <dan.daly@intel.com>
>> Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/3] add ifcvf driver
>>
>> Hi Xiao,
>>
>> On 03/15/2018 05:49 PM, Wang, Xiao W wrote:
>>> Hi Maxime,
>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Maxime Coquelin [mailto:maxime.coquelin@redhat.com]
>>>> Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2018 2:24 AM
>>>> To: Wang, Xiao W <xiao.w.wang@intel.com>; dev@dpdk.org
>>>> Cc: Wang, Zhihong <zhihong.wang@intel.com>; yliu@fridaylinux.org; Liang,
>>>> Cunming <cunming.liang@intel.com>; Xu, Rosen <rosen.xu@intel.com>;
>> Chen,
>>>> Junjie J <junjie.j.chen@intel.com>; Daly, Dan <dan.daly@intel.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/3] add ifcvf driver
>>>>
>>>> Hi Xiao,
>>>>
>>>> On 03/10/2018 12:08 AM, Xiao Wang wrote:
>>>>> This patch set has dependency on
>>>> http://dpdk.org/dev/patchwork/patch/35635/
>>>>> (vhost: support selective datapath);
>>>>>
>>>>> ifc VF is compatible with virtio vring operations, this driver implements
>>>>> vDPA driver ops which configures ifc VF to be a vhost data path accelerator.
>>>>>
>>>>> ifcvf driver uses vdev as a control domain to manage ifc VFs that belong
>>>>> to it. It registers vDPA device ops to vhost lib to enable these VFs to be
>>>>> used as vhost data path accelerator.
>>>>>
>>>>> Live migration feature is supported by ifc VF and this driver enables
>>>>> it based on vhost lib.
>>>>>
>>>>> vDPA needs to create different containers for different devices, thus this
>>>>> patch set adds APIs in eal/vfio to support multiple container.
>>>> Thanks for this! That will avoind having to duplicate these functions
>>>> for every new offload driver.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Junjie Chen (1):
>>>>>      eal/vfio: add support for multiple container
>>>>>
>>>>> Xiao Wang (2):
>>>>>      bus/pci: expose sysfs parsing API
>>>>
>>>> Still, I'm not convinced the offload device should be a virtual device.
>>>> It is a real PCI device, why not having a new device type for offload
>>>> devices, and let the device to be probed automatically by the existing
>>>> device model?
>>>
>>> IFC VFs are generated from SRIOV, with the PF driven by kernel driver.
>>> In DPDK we need to have something to represent PF, to register itself as
>>> a vDPA engine, so a virtual device is used for this purpose.
>> I went through the code, and something is not clear to me.
>>
>> Why do we need to have a representation of the PF in DPDK?
>> Why cannot we just bind at VF level?
> 
> 1. With the vdev representation we could use it to talk to PF kernel driver to do flow configuration, we can implement
> flow API on the vdev in future for this purpose. Using a vdev allows introducing this kind of control plane thing.
> 
> 2. When port representor is ready, we would integrate it into ifcvf driver, then each VF will have a
> Representor port. For now we don’t have port representor, so this patch set manages VF resource internally.

Ok, we may need to have a vdev to represent the PF, but we need to be
able to bind at VF level anyway.

Else, how do you support passing two VFs of the same PF to different
DPDK applications?
Or have some VFs managed by Kernel or QEMU and some by the DPDK
application? My feeling is that current implementation is creating an
artificial constraint.

Isn't there a possibility to have the virtual representation for the PF
to be probed separately? Or created automatically when the first VF of a
PF is probed (and later VFs attach to the PF rep when probed)?

Doing this, we could use the generic device probing.
For IFCVF, to specify we want it to be probed as an offload device
instead of a virtio device, we could have a new EAL parameter to specify
for a given device if we want it to be probed as an offload device (for
example --offload=00:01.1).
Offload drivers would register by passing a flag that specifies they are
an offload driver.
This new argument would be optional and only used to force the device to
being probed in offload mode. For devices that have their own device
IDs for offload mode, then it would be automatic.

Regards,
Maxime
> BRs,
> Xiao
> 

  reply	other threads:[~2018-03-25  9:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 98+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-03-09 23:08 Xiao Wang
2018-03-09 23:08 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 1/3] eal/vfio: add support for multiple container Xiao Wang
2018-03-14 12:08   ` Burakov, Anatoly
2018-03-15 16:49     ` Wang, Xiao W
2018-03-09 23:08 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 2/3] bus/pci: expose sysfs parsing API Xiao Wang
2018-03-14 11:19   ` Burakov, Anatoly
2018-03-14 13:30     ` Gaëtan Rivet
2018-03-15 16:49       ` Wang, Xiao W
2018-03-15 17:19         ` Gaëtan Rivet
2018-03-19  1:31           ` Wang, Xiao W
2018-03-21 13:21   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 0/3] add ifcvf driver Xiao Wang
2018-03-21 13:21     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 1/3] eal/vfio: add support for multiple container Xiao Wang
2018-03-21 20:32       ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-03-21 21:37         ` Gaëtan Rivet
2018-03-22  3:00           ` Wang, Xiao W
2018-03-21 13:21     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 2/3] bus/pci: expose sysfs parsing API Xiao Wang
2018-03-21 20:44       ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-03-22  2:46         ` Wang, Xiao W
2018-03-21 13:21     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 3/3] net/ifcvf: add ifcvf driver Xiao Wang
2018-03-21 20:52       ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-03-23 10:39         ` Wang, Xiao W
2018-03-21 20:57       ` Maxime Coquelin
2018-03-23 10:37         ` Wang, Xiao W
2018-03-22  8:51       ` Ferruh Yigit
2018-03-22 17:23         ` Wang, Xiao W
2018-03-31  2:29       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 0/3] add ifcvf vdpa driver Xiao Wang
2018-03-31  2:29         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 1/4] eal/vfio: add support for multiple container Xiao Wang
2018-03-31 11:06           ` Maxime Coquelin
2018-03-31  2:29         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 2/4] net/virtio: skip device probe in vdpa mode Xiao Wang
2018-03-31 11:13           ` Maxime Coquelin
2018-03-31 13:16             ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-04-02  4:08               ` Wang, Xiao W
2018-03-31  2:29         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 3/4] net/ifcvf: add ifcvf vdpa driver Xiao Wang
2018-03-31 11:26           ` Maxime Coquelin
2018-04-03  9:38             ` Wang, Xiao W
2018-04-04 14:40           ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 0/4] " Xiao Wang
2018-04-04 14:40             ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 1/4] eal/vfio: add multiple container support Xiao Wang
2018-04-05 18:06               ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 0/4] add ifcvf vdpa driver Xiao Wang
2018-04-05 18:06                 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 1/4] eal/vfio: add multiple container support Xiao Wang
2018-04-05 18:06                 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 2/4] net/virtio: skip device probe in vdpa mode Xiao Wang
2018-04-11 18:58                   ` Ferruh Yigit
2018-04-05 18:07                 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 3/4] net/ifcvf: add ifcvf vdpa driver Xiao Wang
2018-04-11 18:58                   ` Ferruh Yigit
2018-04-12  7:19                   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 0/4] " Xiao Wang
2018-04-12  7:19                     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 1/4] eal/vfio: add multiple container support Xiao Wang
2018-04-12 14:03                       ` Burakov, Anatoly
2018-04-12 16:07                         ` Wang, Xiao W
2018-04-12 16:24                           ` Burakov, Anatoly
2018-04-13  9:18                             ` Wang, Xiao W
2018-04-15 15:33                       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v7 0/5] add ifcvf vdpa driver Xiao Wang
2018-04-15 15:33                         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v7 1/5] vfio: extend data structure for multi container Xiao Wang
2018-04-16 10:02                           ` Burakov, Anatoly
2018-04-16 12:22                             ` Wang, Xiao W
2018-04-16 15:34                           ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v8 0/5] add ifcvf vdpa driver Xiao Wang
2018-04-16 15:34                             ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v8 1/5] vfio: extend data structure for multi container Xiao Wang
2018-04-16 15:56                               ` Burakov, Anatoly
2018-04-16 15:34                             ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v8 2/5] vfio: add multi container support Xiao Wang
2018-04-16 15:58                               ` Burakov, Anatoly
2018-04-17  7:06                               ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v9 0/5] add ifcvf vdpa driver Xiao Wang
2018-04-17  7:06                                 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v9 1/5] vfio: extend data structure for multi container Xiao Wang
2018-04-17  7:06                                 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v9 2/5] vfio: add multi container support Xiao Wang
2018-04-17  7:06                                 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v9 3/5] net/virtio: skip device probe in vdpa mode Xiao Wang
2018-04-17  7:06                                 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v9 4/5] net/ifcvf: add ifcvf vdpa driver Xiao Wang
2018-04-17  7:06                                 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v9 5/5] doc: add ifcvf driver document and release note Xiao Wang
2018-04-17 11:13                                 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v9 0/5] add ifcvf vdpa driver Ferruh Yigit
2018-04-16 15:34                             ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v8 3/5] net/virtio: skip device probe in vdpa mode Xiao Wang
2018-04-16 15:34                             ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v8 4/5] net/ifcvf: add ifcvf vdpa driver Xiao Wang
2018-04-16 15:34                             ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v8 5/5] doc: add ifcvf driver document and release note Xiao Wang
2018-04-16 16:36                             ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v8 0/5] add ifcvf vdpa driver Ferruh Yigit
2018-04-16 18:07                               ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-04-17  5:36                                 ` Wang, Xiao W
2018-04-15 15:33                         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v7 2/5] vfio: add multi container support Xiao Wang
2018-04-16 10:03                           ` Burakov, Anatoly
2018-04-16 12:44                             ` Wang, Xiao W
2018-04-15 15:33                         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v7 3/5] net/virtio: skip device probe in vdpa mode Xiao Wang
2018-04-15 15:33                         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v7 4/5] net/ifcvf: add ifcvf vdpa driver Xiao Wang
2018-04-15 15:33                         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v7 5/5] doc: add ifcvf driver document and release note Xiao Wang
2018-04-12  7:19                     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 2/4] net/virtio: skip device probe in vdpa mode Xiao Wang
2018-04-12  7:19                     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 3/4] net/ifcvf: add ifcvf vdpa driver Xiao Wang
2018-04-12  7:19                     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 4/4] doc: add ifcvf driver document and release note Xiao Wang
2018-04-05 18:07                 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 " Xiao Wang
2018-04-11 18:59                 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 0/4] add ifcvf vdpa driver Ferruh Yigit
2018-04-12  5:47                   ` Wang, Xiao W
2018-04-04 14:40             ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 2/4] net/virtio: skip device probe in vdpa mode Xiao Wang
2018-04-04 14:40             ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 3/4] net/ifcvf: add ifcvf vdpa driver Xiao Wang
2018-04-04 14:40             ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 4/4] doc: add ifcvf driver document and release note Xiao Wang
2018-03-31  2:29         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 4/4] net/ifcvf: add " Xiao Wang
2018-03-31 11:28           ` Maxime Coquelin
2018-03-09 23:08 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 3/3] net/ifcvf: add ifcvf driver Xiao Wang
2018-03-10 18:23 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 0/3] " Maxime Coquelin
2018-03-15 16:49   ` Wang, Xiao W
2018-03-21 20:47     ` Maxime Coquelin
2018-03-23 10:27       ` Wang, Xiao W
2018-03-25  9:51         ` Maxime Coquelin [this message]
2018-03-26  9:05           ` Wang, Xiao W
2018-03-26 13:29             ` Maxime Coquelin
2018-03-27  4:40               ` Wang, Xiao W
2018-03-27  5:09                 ` Maxime Coquelin

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