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From: Panu Matilainen <pmatilai@redhat.com>
To: Neil Horman <nhorman@tuxdriver.com>, dev@dpdk.org
Cc: Bruce Richardson <bruce.richardson@intel.com>,
	Thomas Monjalon <thomas.monjalon@6wind.com>,
	Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org>
Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 4/4] pmd_hw_support.py: Add tool to query binaries for hw support information
Date: Wed, 18 May 2016 14:48:30 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3ee4159d-fd29-1a20-1417-4c0a40c18779@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1463431287-4551-5-git-send-email-nhorman@tuxdriver.com>

On 05/16/2016 11:41 PM, Neil Horman wrote:
> This tool searches for the primer sting PMD_DRIVER_INFO= in any ELF binary,
> and, if found parses the remainder of the string as a json encoded string,
> outputting the results in either a human readable or raw, script parseable
> format
>
> Signed-off-by: Neil Horman <nhorman@tuxdriver.com>
> CC: Bruce Richardson <bruce.richardson@intel.com>
> CC: Thomas Monjalon <thomas.monjalon@6wind.com>
> CC: Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org>
> CC: Panu Matilainen <pmatilai@redhat.com>
> ---
>  tools/pmd_hw_support.py | 174 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>  1 file changed, 174 insertions(+)
>  create mode 100755 tools/pmd_hw_support.py
>
> diff --git a/tools/pmd_hw_support.py b/tools/pmd_hw_support.py
> new file mode 100755
> index 0000000..0669aca
> --- /dev/null
> +++ b/tools/pmd_hw_support.py
> @@ -0,0 +1,174 @@
> +#!/usr/bin/python3

I think this should use /usr/bin/python to be consistent with the other 
python scripts, and like the others work with python 2 and 3. I only 
tested it with python2 after changing this and it seemed to work fine so 
the compatibility side should be fine as-is.

On the whole, AFAICT the patch series does what it promises, and works 
for both static and shared linkage. Using JSON formatted strings in an 
ELF section is a sound working technical solution for the storage of the 
data. But the difference between the two cases makes me wonder about 
this all...

For static library build, you'd query the application executable, eg 
testpmd, to get the data out. For a shared library build, that method 
gives absolutely nothing because the data is scattered around in 
individual libraries which might be just about wherever, and you need to 
somehow discover the location + correct library files to be able to 
query that. For the shared case, perhaps the script could be taught to 
walk files in CONFIG_RTE_EAL_PMD_PATH to give in-the-ballpark 
correct/identical results when querying the executable as with static 
builds. If identical operation between static and shared versions is a 
requirement (without running the app in question) then query through the 
executable itself is practically the only option. Unless some kind of 
(auto-generated) external config file system ala kernel depmod / 
modules.dep etc is brought into the picture.

For shared library configurations, having the data in the individual 
pmds is valuable as one could for example have rpm autogenerate provides 
from the data to ease/automate installation (in case of split packaging 
and/or 3rd party drivers). And no doubt other interesting possibilities. 
With static builds that kind of thing is not possible.

Calling up on the list of requirements from 
http://dpdk.org/ml/archives/dev/2016-May/038324.html, I see a pile of 
technical requirements but perhaps we should stop for a moment to think 
about the use-cases first?

To name some from the top of my head:
- user wants to know whether the hardware on the system is supported
- user wants to know which package(s) need to be installed to support 
the system hardware
- user wants to list all supported hardware before going shopping
- [what else?]

...and then think how these things would look like from the user 
perspective, in the light of the two quite dramatically differing cases 
of static vs shared linkage.

P.S. Sorry for being late to this party, I'm having some health issues 
so my level of participation is a bit on-and-off at the moment.

	- Panu -

  reply	other threads:[~2016-05-18 11:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 166+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-05-16 20:41 [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 0/4] Implement pmd hardware support exports Neil Horman
2016-05-16 20:41 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 1/4] pmdinfo: Add buildtools and pmdinfo utility Neil Horman
2016-05-16 20:41 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 2/4] drivers: Update driver registration macro usage Neil Horman
2016-05-16 20:41 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 3/4] Makefile: Do post processing on objects that register a driver Neil Horman
2016-05-16 20:41 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 4/4] pmd_hw_support.py: Add tool to query binaries for hw support information Neil Horman
2016-05-18 11:48   ` Panu Matilainen [this message]
2016-05-18 12:03     ` Neil Horman
2016-05-18 12:48       ` Panu Matilainen
2016-05-18 13:48         ` Neil Horman
2016-05-19  6:08           ` Panu Matilainen
2016-05-19 13:26             ` Neil Horman
2016-05-20  7:30               ` Panu Matilainen
2016-05-20 14:06                 ` Neil Horman
2016-05-23 11:56                   ` Panu Matilainen
2016-05-23 13:55                     ` Neil Horman
2016-05-24  6:15                       ` Panu Matilainen
2016-05-24 14:55                         ` Neil Horman
2016-05-18 12:38     ` Thomas Monjalon
2016-05-18 13:09       ` Panu Matilainen
2016-05-18 13:26         ` Thomas Monjalon
2016-05-18 13:54           ` Neil Horman
2016-05-18 21:08 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv2 0/4] Implement pmd hardware support exports Neil Horman
2016-05-18 21:08   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv2 1/4] pmdinfogen: Add buildtools and pmdinfogen utility Neil Horman
2016-05-19  7:51     ` Panu Matilainen
2016-05-19 12:00       ` Neil Horman
2016-05-18 21:08   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv2 2/4] drivers: Update driver registration macro usage Neil Horman
2016-05-19  7:58     ` Panu Matilainen
2016-05-19 10:45       ` Neil Horman
2016-05-19 10:51     ` [dpdk-dev] [dpdk-dev, PATCHv2, " Jan Viktorin
     [not found]     ` <20160519124650.060aa09a@pcviktorin.fit.vutbr.cz>
2016-05-19 11:40       ` Neil Horman
2016-05-18 21:08   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv2 3/4] Makefile: Do post processing on objects that register a driver Neil Horman
2016-05-18 21:08   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv2 4/4] pmdinfo.py: Add tool to query binaries for hw and other support information Neil Horman
2016-05-19  9:02     ` Panu Matilainen
2016-05-19 12:00       ` Neil Horman
2016-05-20  5:22         ` Panu Matilainen
2016-05-20  8:55           ` Thomas Monjalon
2016-05-20  9:12             ` Panu Matilainen
2016-05-20 14:22             ` Neil Horman
2016-05-20 14:20           ` Neil Horman
2016-05-20 17:24 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv3 0/5] Implement pmd hardware support exports Neil Horman
2016-05-20 17:24   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv3 1/5] pmdinfogen: Add buildtools and pmdinfogen utility Neil Horman
2016-05-20 17:24   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv3 2/5] drivers: Update driver registration macro usage Neil Horman
2016-05-24  6:57     ` Panu Matilainen
2016-05-24 13:21       ` Neil Horman
2016-05-20 17:24   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv3 3/5] eal: Add an export symbol to expose the autoload path to external tools Neil Horman
2016-05-20 17:24   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv3 4/5] Makefile: Do post processing on objects that register a driver Neil Horman
2016-05-20 17:24   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv3 5/5] pmdinfo.py: Add tool to query binaries for hw and other support information Neil Horman
2016-05-24  7:41     ` Panu Matilainen
2016-05-24 15:17       ` Neil Horman
2016-05-24  8:34     ` Panu Matilainen
2016-05-24 19:41 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv4 0/5] Implement pmd hardware support exports Neil Horman
2016-05-24 19:41   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv4 1/5] pmdinfogen: Add buildtools and pmdinfogen utility Neil Horman
2016-05-25 13:21     ` Thomas Monjalon
2016-05-25 17:22       ` Neil Horman
2016-05-25 17:39         ` Thomas Monjalon
2016-05-25 19:13           ` Neil Horman
2016-05-25 19:39             ` Thomas Monjalon
2016-05-25 19:57               ` Neil Horman
2016-05-24 19:41   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv4 2/5] drivers: Update driver registration macro usage Neil Horman
2016-05-25 16:20     ` Thomas Monjalon
2016-05-25 17:35       ` Neil Horman
2016-05-24 19:41   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv4 3/5] eal: Add an export symbol to expose the autoload path to external tools Neil Horman
2016-05-24 19:41   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv4 4/5] Makefile: Do post processing on objects that register a driver Neil Horman
2016-05-25 17:08     ` Thomas Monjalon
2016-05-25 17:40       ` Neil Horman
2016-05-25 18:56         ` Thomas Monjalon
2016-05-25 19:43           ` Neil Horman
2016-05-25 20:04             ` Thomas Monjalon
2016-05-25 20:16               ` Neil Horman
2016-05-24 19:41   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv4 5/5] pmdinfo.py: Add tool to query binaries for hw and other support information Neil Horman
2016-05-25 17:22     ` Thomas Monjalon
2016-05-25 17:47       ` Neil Horman
2016-05-25 18:58         ` Thomas Monjalon
2016-05-27  9:16           ` Panu Matilainen
2016-05-27 11:35             ` Neil Horman
2016-05-27 12:46               ` Panu Matilainen
2016-05-25  8:32   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv4 0/5] Implement pmd hardware support exports Panu Matilainen
2016-05-25 11:27     ` Neil Horman
2016-05-26 17:17 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv5 0/6] " Neil Horman
2016-05-26 17:17   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv5 1/6] pmdinfogen: Add buildtools and pmdinfogen utility Neil Horman
2016-05-26 17:17   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv5 2/6] drivers: Update driver registration macro usage Neil Horman
2016-05-26 17:17   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv5 3/6] eal: Add an export symbol to expose the autoload path to external tools Neil Horman
2016-05-26 17:17   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv5 4/6] Makefile: Do post processing on objects that register a driver Neil Horman
2016-05-26 17:17   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv5 5/6] pmdinfo.py: Add tool to query binaries for hw and other support information Neil Horman
2016-05-27 14:38     ` Mcnamara, John
2016-05-27 19:56       ` Neil Horman
2016-05-26 17:17   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv5 6/6] remove rte.hostapp.mk Neil Horman
2016-05-31 13:57 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv6 0/7] Implement pmd hardware support exports Neil Horman
2016-05-31 13:57   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv6 1/7] pmdinfogen: Add buildtools and pmdinfogen utility Neil Horman
2016-06-07  9:57     ` Thomas Monjalon
2016-06-07 12:04       ` Neil Horman
2016-06-07 12:53         ` Thomas Monjalon
2016-06-07 13:03           ` Neil Horman
2016-06-07 13:24             ` Thomas Monjalon
2016-06-07 13:49               ` Neil Horman
2016-06-07 14:09                 ` Thomas Monjalon
2016-05-31 13:57   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv6 2/7] drivers: Update driver registration macro usage Neil Horman
2016-05-31 13:57   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv6 3/7] eal: Add an export symbol to expose the autoload path to external tools Neil Horman
2016-05-31 13:57   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv6 4/7] Makefile: Do post processing on objects that register a driver Neil Horman
2016-05-31 13:57   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv6 5/7] pmdinfo.py: Add tool to query binaries for hw and other support information Neil Horman
2016-05-31 13:57   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv6 6/7] remove rte.hostapp.mk Neil Horman
2016-05-31 13:57   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv6 7/7] doc: Add prog_guide section documenting pmdinfo script Neil Horman
2016-06-08 17:14     ` Mcnamara, John
2016-06-09 17:31       ` Neil Horman
2016-06-05  0:20   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv6 0/7] Implement pmd hardware support exports Neil Horman
2016-06-07  9:34   ` Thomas Monjalon
2016-06-07 12:08     ` Neil Horman
2016-06-07 12:27       ` Thomas Monjalon
2016-06-09 17:46 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv7 0/6] " Neil Horman
2016-06-09 17:46   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv7 1/6] pmdinfogen: Add buildtools and pmdinfogen utility Neil Horman
2016-06-16 12:29     ` Panu Matilainen
2016-06-16 13:33       ` Neil Horman
2016-06-16 14:06         ` Panu Matilainen
2016-06-16 14:41           ` Neil Horman
2016-06-09 17:46   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv7 2/6] drivers: Update driver registration macro usage Neil Horman
2016-06-09 17:46   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv7 3/6] eal: Add an export symbol to expose the autoload path to external tools Neil Horman
2016-06-09 17:46   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv7 4/6] Makefile: Do post processing on objects that register a driver Neil Horman
2016-06-09 17:47   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv7 5/6] pmdinfo.py: Add tool to query binaries for hw and other support information Neil Horman
2016-06-16 12:32     ` Panu Matilainen
2016-06-09 17:47   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv7 6/6] doc: Add prog_guide section documenting pmdinfo script Neil Horman
2016-06-09 19:55     ` Mcnamara, John
2016-06-17 18:46   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv8 0/6] Implement pmd hardware support exports Neil Horman
2016-06-17 18:46     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv8 1/6] pmdinfogen: Add buildtools and pmdinfogen utility Neil Horman
2016-06-17 18:46     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv8 2/6] drivers: Update driver registration macro usage Neil Horman
2016-07-07 11:00       ` De Lara Guarch, Pablo
2016-07-07 11:39         ` Neil Horman
2016-07-07 15:37         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH] crypto: normalize cryptodev pmd names with macros Neil Horman
2016-07-08  9:09           ` De Lara Guarch, Pablo
2016-07-08 12:17             ` Neil Horman
2016-07-08 12:40               ` Thomas Monjalon
2016-07-08 13:42                 ` Neil Horman
2016-07-08 19:03                   ` Mcnamara, John
2016-07-09 13:34                     ` Neil Horman
2016-07-09 16:04                       ` Mcnamara, John
2016-07-08 14:00               ` De Lara Guarch, Pablo
2016-07-08 14:14                 ` Neil Horman
2016-07-08 10:03           ` Thomas Monjalon
2016-07-08 16:34           ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2] " Pablo de Lara
2016-07-08 16:46             ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3] " Pablo de Lara
2016-07-08 17:14               ` Thomas Monjalon
2016-06-17 18:46     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv8 3/6] eal: Add an export symbol to expose the autoload path to external tools Neil Horman
2016-06-17 18:46     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv8 4/6] Makefile: Do post processing on objects that register a driver Neil Horman
2016-06-17 18:46     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv8 5/6] pmdinfo.py: Add tool to query binaries for hw and other support information Neil Horman
2016-06-29 15:12       ` Remy Horton
2016-06-29 16:18         ` Neil Horman
2016-06-30  7:45           ` Remy Horton
2016-06-17 18:46     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv8 6/6] doc: Add prog_guide section documenting pmdinfo script Neil Horman
2016-06-29  9:18     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv8 0/6] Implement pmd hardware support exports Remy Horton
2016-06-29 11:31       ` Neil Horman
2016-06-30  7:45     ` Remy Horton
2016-07-06 21:21       ` Thomas Monjalon
2016-07-04  1:13     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v9 0/7] export PMD infos Thomas Monjalon
2016-07-04  1:13       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v9 1/7] drivers: export infos as string symbols Thomas Monjalon
2016-07-04  1:14       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v9 2/7] mk: remove recipe for tool library Thomas Monjalon
2016-07-04  1:14       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v9 3/7] mk: refresh recipe for any host application Thomas Monjalon
2016-07-04  1:14       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v9 4/7] pmdinfogen: parse driver to generate code to export Thomas Monjalon
2016-07-04  1:14       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v9 5/7] mk: link infos generated by pmdinfogen Thomas Monjalon
2016-07-04  1:14       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v9 6/7] eal: export default plugin path to external tools Thomas Monjalon
2016-07-04  1:14       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v9 7/7] tools: query binaries for support information Thomas Monjalon
2016-07-04 12:34       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v9 0/7] export PMD infos Neil Horman
2016-07-04 13:10         ` Thomas Monjalon
2016-07-04 16:41           ` Neil Horman
2016-07-04 20:10             ` Thomas Monjalon
2016-07-05 20:08               ` Neil Horman
2016-07-06 15:33                 ` Thomas Monjalon
2016-07-04 15:22       ` Bruce Richardson

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