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From: "Chen, Jing D" <jing.d.chen@intel.com>
To: "Richardson, Bruce" <bruce.richardson@intel.com>
Cc: Thomas Monjalon <thomas.monjalon@6wind.com>,
	"dev@dpdk.org" <dev@dpdk.org>,
	"Liang, Cunming" <cunming.liang@intel.com>,
	"Rogers, Gerald" <gerald.rogers@intel.com>,
	"Wiles, Keith" <keith.wiles@intel.com>,
	"Mcnamara, John" <john.mcnamara@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 6/6] doc: introduction to prgdev
Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2017 13:45:09 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4341B239C0EFF9468EE453F9E9F4604D3C5FED99@shsmsx102.ccr.corp.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170307111231.GA254436@bricha3-MOBL3.ger.corp.intel.com>

> > >
> > > > +Another reason to provide bind/unbind action is programmble
> > > > +devices, like FPGA, are not identified driver by 'vendor ID' and
> > > > +'device ID', they might not be changed in all the ways, even FPGA
> > > > +is fully programmed. So, it depends on internal mechanism of
> > > > +FPGA, not 'vendor ID' and 'device ID' to identify proper drivers,
> > > > +either a register value or signature, depending on FPGA hardware
> > > > +design. In this case, EAL or other bus driver doesn't have the
> > > > +capability to identify proper driver for FPGA device. With prgdev
> > > > +introduced, while FPGA is always a prgdev, FPGA can use prgdev as
> > > > +primary driver, to find proper
> > > function driver.
> > >
> > > You mean prgdev should help the bus layer to map the right driver
> interface?
> > > It looks weird and dangerous. The standard way to identify a PCI
> > > device is to look at its IDs. Other unknown methods must be strongly
> discussed.
> >
> > For programmable Ethernet device, it's not truce. But for FPGA, it's.
> > When FPGA is produced, the device ID indicate what model it is and
> > won't be changed anyway, even being reprogrammed. It used some
> > not-generic mechanism, like AFU id to distinguish the personalities.
> > So, for FPGA, a prgdev driver can be used as primary driver to identify
> personalities and then register to specific devices.
> 
> Sounds like we would need an FPGA bus driver in that case. I think that would
> be a better solution than having a specific device driver loading other drivers.
>

I don't object to introduce a pseudo bus for FPGA, but it's a matter of work that
FPGA driver needs to consider, not in scope of prgdev.
Besides that, I can see DPDK EAL will do other bus probe first, then PCI bus
probe, which is not friendly to introduce pseudo bus for an actual PCI device.
 
> /Bruce

      parent reply	other threads:[~2017-03-07 13:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-03-02  4:03 [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 0/6] introduce prgdev abstraction library Chen Jing D(Mark)
2017-03-02  4:03 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 1/6] prgdev: introduce new library Chen Jing D(Mark)
2017-03-02  4:03 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 2/6] prgdev: add debug macro for prgdev Chen Jing D(Mark)
2017-03-02  4:03 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 3/6] prgdev: add bus probe and remove functions Chen Jing D(Mark)
2017-03-02  4:03 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 4/6] prgdev: add prgdev API exposed to application Chen Jing D(Mark)
2017-03-02  4:03 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 5/6] prgdev: add ABI control info Chen Jing D(Mark)
2017-03-02  4:03 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 6/6] doc: introduction to prgdev Chen Jing D(Mark)
2017-03-06 15:26   ` Thomas Monjalon
2017-03-07 10:34     ` Chen, Jing D
2017-03-07 11:12       ` Bruce Richardson
2017-03-07 13:05         ` Thomas Monjalon
2017-03-07 13:45         ` Chen, Jing D [this message]

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