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From: Thomas Monjalon <thomas@monjalon.net>
To: Bruce Richardson <bruce.richardson@intel.com>
Cc: "Matan Azrad" <matan@mellanox.com>,
	"Neil Horman" <nhorman@tuxdriver.com>,
	"Ananyev, Konstantin" <konstantin.ananyev@intel.com>,
	"Gaëtan Rivet" <gaetan.rivet@6wind.com>,
	"Wu, Jingjing" <jingjing.wu@intel.com>,
	dev@dpdk.org
Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 2/5] ethdev: add port ownership
Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2017 12:35:18 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5212147.QN8ImyqEg2@xps> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20171205100542.GA7492@bricha3-MOBL3.ger.corp.intel.com>

05/12/2017 11:05, Bruce Richardson:
> > I think you suggest to make all the ethdev configuration race safe, it
> > is behind to this thread.  Current ethdev implementation leave the
> > race management to applications, so port ownership as any other port
> > configurations should be designed in the same method.
> 
> One key difference, though, being that port ownership itself could be
> used to manage the thread-safety of the ethdev configuration. It's also
> a little different from other APIs in that I find it hard to come up
> with a scenario where it would be very useful to an application without
> also having some form of locking present in it. For other config/control
> APIs we can have the control plane APIs work without locks e.g. by
> having a single designated thread/process manage all configuration
> updates. However, as Neil points out, in such a scenario, the ownership
> concept doesn't provide any additional benefit so can be skipped
> completely. I'd view it a bit like the reference counting of mbufs -
> we can provide a lockless/non-atomic version, but for just about every
> real use-case, you want the atomic version.

I think we need to clearly describe what is the tread-safety policy
in DPDK (especially in ethdev as a first example).
Let's start with obvious things:

	1/ A queue is not protected for races with multiple Rx or Tx
			- no planned change because of performance purpose
	2/ The list of devices is racy
			- to be fixed with atomics
	3/ The configuration of different devices is thread-safe
			- the configurations are different per-device
	4/ The configuration of a given device is racy
			- can be managed by the owner of the device
	5/ The device ownership is racy
			- to be fixed with atomics

What am I missing?

I am also wondering whether the device ownership can be a separate
library used in several device class interfaces?

  reply	other threads:[~2017-12-08 11:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 214+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-11-28 11:57 [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 0/5] ethdev: Port ownership Matan Azrad
2017-11-28 11:57 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 1/5] ethdev: free a port by a dedicated API Matan Azrad
2017-11-28 11:57 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 2/5] ethdev: add port ownership Matan Azrad
2017-11-30 12:36   ` Neil Horman
2017-11-30 13:24     ` Gaëtan Rivet
2017-11-30 14:30       ` Matan Azrad
2017-11-30 15:09         ` Gaëtan Rivet
2017-11-30 15:43           ` Matan Azrad
2017-12-01 12:09       ` Neil Horman
2017-12-03  8:04         ` Matan Azrad
2017-12-03 11:10           ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2017-12-03 13:46             ` Matan Azrad
2017-12-04 16:01               ` Neil Horman
2017-12-04 18:10                 ` Matan Azrad
2017-12-04 22:30                   ` Neil Horman
2017-12-05  6:08                     ` Matan Azrad
2017-12-05 10:05                       ` Bruce Richardson
2017-12-08 11:35                         ` Thomas Monjalon [this message]
2017-12-08 12:31                           ` Neil Horman
2017-12-21 17:06                             ` Thomas Monjalon
2017-12-21 17:43                               ` Neil Horman
2017-12-21 19:37                                 ` Matan Azrad
2017-12-21 20:14                                   ` Neil Horman
2017-12-21 21:57                                     ` Matan Azrad
2017-12-22 14:26                                       ` Neil Horman
2017-12-23 22:36                                         ` Matan Azrad
2017-12-29 16:56                                           ` Neil Horman
2017-12-05 19:26                       ` Neil Horman
2017-12-08 11:06                         ` Thomas Monjalon
2017-12-05 11:12               ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2017-12-05 11:44                 ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2017-12-05 11:53                   ` Thomas Monjalon
2017-12-05 14:56                     ` Bruce Richardson
2017-12-05 14:57                     ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2017-12-05 11:47                 ` Thomas Monjalon
2017-12-05 15:13                   ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2017-12-05 15:49                     ` Thomas Monjalon
2017-11-28 11:57 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 3/5] net/failsafe: free an eth port by a dedicated API Matan Azrad
2017-11-28 11:58 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 4/5] net/failsafe: use ownership mechanism to own ports Matan Azrad
2017-11-28 11:58 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 5/5] app/testpmd: adjust ethdev port ownership Matan Azrad
2018-01-07  9:45 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 0/6] ethdev: " Matan Azrad
2018-01-07  9:45   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 1/6] ethdev: fix port data reset timing Matan Azrad
2018-01-07  9:45   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 2/6] ethdev: add port ownership Matan Azrad
2018-01-10 13:36     ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2018-01-10 16:58       ` Matan Azrad
2018-01-11 12:40         ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2018-01-11 14:51           ` Matan Azrad
2018-01-12  0:02             ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2018-01-12  7:24               ` Matan Azrad
2018-01-15 11:45                 ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2018-01-15 13:09                   ` Matan Azrad
2018-01-15 18:43                     ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2018-01-16  8:04                       ` Matan Azrad
2018-01-16 19:11                         ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2018-01-16 20:32                           ` Matan Azrad
2018-01-17 11:24                             ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2018-01-17 12:05                               ` Matan Azrad
2018-01-17 12:54                                 ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2018-01-17 13:10                                   ` Matan Azrad
2018-01-17 16:52                                     ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2018-01-17 18:02                                       ` Matan Azrad
2018-01-17 20:34                                       ` Matan Azrad
2018-01-18 14:17                                         ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2018-01-18 14:26                                           ` Matan Azrad
2018-01-18 14:41                                             ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2018-01-18 14:45                                               ` Matan Azrad
2018-01-18 14:51                                                 ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2018-01-18 15:00                                                   ` Matan Azrad
2018-01-17 14:00                                 ` Neil Horman
2018-01-17 17:01                                   ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2018-01-18 13:10                                     ` Neil Horman
2018-01-18 14:00                                       ` Matan Azrad
2018-01-18 16:54                                         ` Neil Horman
2018-01-18 17:20                                           ` Matan Azrad
2018-01-18 18:41                                             ` Neil Horman
2018-01-18 20:21                                               ` Matan Azrad
2018-01-19  1:41                                                 ` Neil Horman
2018-01-19  7:14                                                   ` Matan Azrad
2018-01-19  9:30                                                     ` Bruce Richardson
2018-01-19 10:44                                                       ` Matan Azrad
2018-01-19 13:30                                                         ` Neil Horman
2018-01-19 13:57                                                           ` Matan Azrad
2018-01-19 14:13                                                           ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-01-19 15:27                                                             ` Neil Horman
2018-01-19 17:17                                                               ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-01-19 17:43                                                                 ` Neil Horman
2018-01-19 18:12                                                                   ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-01-19 19:47                                                                     ` Neil Horman
2018-01-19 20:19                                                                       ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-01-19 22:52                                                                         ` Neil Horman
2018-01-20  3:38                                                                         ` Tuxdriver
2018-01-20 12:54                                                                       ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2018-01-20 14:02                                                                         ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-01-19 12:55                                                       ` Neil Horman
2018-01-19 13:52                                                     ` Neil Horman
2018-01-18 16:27                                     ` Neil Horman
2018-01-17 17:58                                   ` Matan Azrad
2018-01-18 13:20                                     ` Neil Horman
2018-01-18 14:52                                       ` Matan Azrad
2018-01-19 13:57                                         ` Neil Horman
2018-01-19 14:07                                           ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-01-19 14:32                                             ` Neil Horman
2018-01-19 17:09                                               ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-01-19 17:37                                                 ` Neil Horman
2018-01-19 18:10                                                   ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-01-21 22:12                                                     ` Ferruh Yigit
2018-01-07  9:45   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 3/6] ethdev: synchronize port allocation Matan Azrad
2018-01-07  9:58     ` Matan Azrad
2018-01-07  9:45   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 4/6] net/failsafe: free an eth port by a dedicated API Matan Azrad
2018-01-07  9:45   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 5/6] net/failsafe: use ownership mechanism to own ports Matan Azrad
2018-01-08 10:32     ` Gaëtan Rivet
2018-01-08 11:16       ` Matan Azrad
2018-01-08 11:35         ` Gaëtan Rivet
2018-01-07  9:45   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 6/6] app/testpmd: adjust ethdev port ownership Matan Azrad
2018-01-08 11:39     ` Gaëtan Rivet
2018-01-08 12:30       ` Matan Azrad
2018-01-08 13:30         ` Gaëtan Rivet
2018-01-08 13:55           ` Matan Azrad
2018-01-08 14:21             ` Gaëtan Rivet
2018-01-08 14:42               ` Matan Azrad
2018-01-16  5:53     ` Lu, Wenzhuo
2018-01-16  8:15       ` Matan Azrad
2018-01-17  0:46         ` Lu, Wenzhuo
2018-01-17  8:51           ` Matan Azrad
2018-01-18  0:53             ` Lu, Wenzhuo
2018-01-18 16:35   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 0/7] Port ownership and syncronization Matan Azrad
2018-01-18 16:35     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 1/7] ethdev: fix port data reset timing Matan Azrad
2018-01-18 17:00       ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-01-19 12:38       ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2018-03-05 11:24       ` [dpdk-dev] [dpdk-stable] " Ferruh Yigit
2018-03-05 14:52         ` Matan Azrad
2018-03-05 15:06           ` Ferruh Yigit
2018-03-05 15:12             ` Matan Azrad
2018-03-27 22:37               ` Ferruh Yigit
2018-03-28 12:07                 ` Matan Azrad
2018-03-30 10:39                   ` Ferruh Yigit
2018-04-19 11:07                     ` Ferruh Yigit
2018-04-25 12:16                       ` Matan Azrad
2018-04-25 12:30                         ` Ori Kam
2018-04-25 12:54                         ` Ferruh Yigit
2018-04-25 14:01                           ` Matan Azrad
2018-01-18 16:35     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 2/7] ethdev: fix used portid allocation Matan Azrad
2018-01-18 17:00       ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-01-19 12:40       ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2018-01-20 16:48         ` Matan Azrad
2018-01-20 17:26           ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2018-01-18 16:35     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 3/7] ethdev: add port ownership Matan Azrad
2018-01-18 21:11       ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-01-19 12:41       ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2018-01-18 16:35     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 4/7] ethdev: synchronize port allocation Matan Azrad
2018-01-18 20:43       ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-01-18 20:52         ` Matan Azrad
2018-01-18 21:17           ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-01-19 12:47       ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2018-01-18 16:35     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 5/7] net/failsafe: free an eth port by a dedicated API Matan Azrad
2018-01-18 16:35     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 6/7] net/failsafe: use ownership mechanism to own ports Matan Azrad
2018-01-18 16:35     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 7/7] app/testpmd: adjust ethdev port ownership Matan Azrad
2018-01-19 12:37       ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2018-01-19 12:51         ` Matan Azrad
2018-01-19 13:08           ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2018-01-19 13:35             ` Matan Azrad
2018-01-19 15:00               ` Gaëtan Rivet
2018-01-20 18:14                 ` Matan Azrad
2018-01-22 10:17                   ` Gaëtan Rivet
2018-01-22 11:22                     ` Matan Azrad
2018-01-22 12:28                 ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2018-01-22 13:22                   ` Matan Azrad
2018-01-22 20:48                     ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2018-01-23  8:54                       ` Matan Azrad
2018-01-23 12:56                         ` Gaëtan Rivet
2018-01-23 14:30                           ` Matan Azrad
2018-01-25  9:36                             ` Matan Azrad
2018-01-25 10:05                               ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-01-25 11:15                                 ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2018-01-25 11:33                                   ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-01-25 11:55                                     ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2018-01-23 13:34                         ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2018-01-23 14:18                           ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-01-23 15:12                             ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2018-01-23 15:18                               ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2018-01-23 17:33                                 ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-01-23 21:18                                   ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2018-01-24  8:10                                     ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-01-24 18:30                                       ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2018-01-25 10:55                                         ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-01-25 11:09                                           ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2018-01-25 11:27                                             ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-01-23 14:43                           ` Matan Azrad
2018-01-20 21:24     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 0/7] Port ownership and syncronization Matan Azrad
2018-01-20 21:24       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 1/7] ethdev: fix port data reset timing Matan Azrad
2018-01-20 21:24       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 2/7] ethdev: fix used portid allocation Matan Azrad
2018-01-20 21:24       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 3/7] ethdev: add port ownership Matan Azrad
2018-01-21 20:43         ` Ferruh Yigit
2018-01-21 20:46         ` Ferruh Yigit
2018-01-20 21:24       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 4/7] ethdev: synchronize port allocation Matan Azrad
2018-01-20 21:24       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 5/7] net/failsafe: free an eth port by a dedicated API Matan Azrad
2018-01-20 21:24       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 6/7] net/failsafe: use ownership mechanism to own ports Matan Azrad
2018-01-20 21:24       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 7/7] app/testpmd: adjust ethdev port ownership Matan Azrad
2018-01-22 16:38       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 0/7] Port ownership and synchronization Matan Azrad
2018-01-22 16:38         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 1/7] ethdev: fix port data reset timing Matan Azrad
2018-01-22 16:38         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 2/7] ethdev: fix used portid allocation Matan Azrad
2018-01-22 16:38         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 3/7] ethdev: add port ownership Matan Azrad
2018-01-22 16:38         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 4/7] ethdev: synchronize port allocation Matan Azrad
2018-01-22 16:38         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 5/7] net/failsafe: free an eth port by a dedicated API Matan Azrad
2018-01-22 16:38         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 6/7] net/failsafe: use ownership mechanism to own ports Matan Azrad
2018-01-22 16:38         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 7/7] app/testpmd: adjust ethdev port ownership Matan Azrad
2018-01-25  1:47           ` Lu, Wenzhuo
2018-01-25  8:30             ` Matan Azrad
2018-01-26  0:50               ` Lu, Wenzhuo
2018-01-29 11:21         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 0/7] Port ownership and synchronization Matan Azrad
2018-01-31 19:53           ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-01-25 14:35     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 0/7] Port ownership and syncronization Ferruh Yigit
2017-12-06  0:40 [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 2/5] ethdev: add port ownership Ananyev, Konstantin
2017-12-06  9:22 ` Thomas Monjalon

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