From: Panu Matilainen <pmatilai@redhat.com>
To: Neil Horman <nhorman@tuxdriver.com>
Cc: Thomas Monjalon <thomas.monjalon@6wind.com>,
dev@dpdk.org, Bruce Richardson <bruce.richardson@intel.com>,
Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org>
Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv4 5/5] pmdinfo.py: Add tool to query binaries for hw and other support information
Date: Fri, 27 May 2016 15:46:31 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <528ceda3-b670-60b8-a1df-c65f0c6a19b1@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160527113540.GA13448@hmsreliant.think-freely.org>
On 05/27/2016 02:35 PM, Neil Horman wrote:
> On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 12:16:03PM +0300, Panu Matilainen wrote:
>
>> Yup. But there's also a bit of a gotcha involved with the virtual devices
>> with added api. This is how eg testpmd looks when built in shared library
>> config:
>>
>> [pmatilai@sopuli ~]$ pmdinfo /usr/bin/testpmd
>> Scanning /usr/lib64/librte_pmd_bond.so.1 for pmd information
>> PMD NAME: bonding
>> PMD TYPE: PMD_VDEV
>> PMD PARAMETERS: slave=<ifc> primary=<ifc> mode=[0-4] xmit_policy=[l2 | l23 |
>> l34] socket_id=<int> mac=<mac addr> lsc_poll_period_ms=<int> up_delay=<int>
>> down_delay=<int>
>>
>> [pmatilai@sopuli ~]$
>>
>> Having support for bonding driver but nothing else will seem pretty damn
>> confusing unless you happen to be a dpdk developer knowing this fact about
>> some pmds also providing API and being linked directly etc.
>>
> Possibly, but I think its important to remember that we aren't really dealing
> with end users buying this software at best buy. The target user is more likely
> a sysadmin, that I would like to think has the wherewithal to understand that
> hardware support might be either (a) built-in, getting loaded at runtime by
> virtue of the program itself, or a library that it is explicitly linked to, or
> (b) configured-in, getting resolved an loaded at run time by virtue of a
> configuration file or other site specific element. They should be able to
> figure out that the latter won't be discoverable by pmdinfo without help.
Sure, but ability to figure something out doesn't necessarily mean they
should have to, much less want to, do so. Somebody setting up DPDK is
interested in moving network packets, and the details of how a
particular piece of software was built and linked together couldn't be
much more further from away from that task.
I do remember the days when you had to manually load device drivers by
kernel module names during Linux installation and while I certainly
could do it, I dont really miss that part a single bit :)
I also realize I'm probably way ahead of things with my these usability
ramblings when you're only trying to get the feature in, and that's
clearly been causing some unintended friction here. Sorry about that,
I'm really just excited about the possibilities this feature opens.
>> Might make sense to have extra cli switch to control which kind of pmds are
>> shown, and maybe default to skipping vdevs since they dont provide any
>> actual hardware support anyway. Showing nothing at all in the above case
>> would likely be a little less confusing. Maybe :)
>>
> So, Thomas and I just finished arguing about the VDEV/PDEV issue. Since he
> asserted that the ennumeration for device types was being removed I removed any
> notion of differentiation from the tool. Unless there are plans to keep that
> differentiation, I don't think adding a filter for device types is really
> advisable
Ah yes, sorry. I did see the discussion but the actual message
apparently failed to register :)
>
> What might be useful is a filter on vendor/device id's. That is to say only
> show pmd information that matches the specified vendor/device tuple, so that a
> user can search to see if the application supports the hardware they have.
Yeah, makes sense.
>> Anyway, this is "refine later if needed once we gain more experience"
>> material to me.
> Agreed, this isn't an addition that needs to happen now, walk before we run.
Nod.
- Panu -
> Neil
>
>>
>> - Panu -
>>
>>
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2016-05-16 20:41 [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 0/4] Implement pmd hardware support exports Neil Horman
2016-05-16 20:41 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 1/4] pmdinfo: Add buildtools and pmdinfo utility Neil Horman
2016-05-16 20:41 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 2/4] drivers: Update driver registration macro usage Neil Horman
2016-05-16 20:41 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 3/4] Makefile: Do post processing on objects that register a driver Neil Horman
2016-05-16 20:41 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 4/4] pmd_hw_support.py: Add tool to query binaries for hw support information Neil Horman
2016-05-18 11:48 ` Panu Matilainen
2016-05-18 12:03 ` Neil Horman
2016-05-18 12:48 ` Panu Matilainen
2016-05-18 13:48 ` Neil Horman
2016-05-19 6:08 ` Panu Matilainen
2016-05-19 13:26 ` Neil Horman
2016-05-20 7:30 ` Panu Matilainen
2016-05-20 14:06 ` Neil Horman
2016-05-23 11:56 ` Panu Matilainen
2016-05-23 13:55 ` Neil Horman
2016-05-24 6:15 ` Panu Matilainen
2016-05-24 14:55 ` Neil Horman
2016-05-18 12:38 ` Thomas Monjalon
2016-05-18 13:09 ` Panu Matilainen
2016-05-18 13:26 ` Thomas Monjalon
2016-05-18 13:54 ` Neil Horman
2016-05-18 21:08 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv2 0/4] Implement pmd hardware support exports Neil Horman
2016-05-18 21:08 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv2 1/4] pmdinfogen: Add buildtools and pmdinfogen utility Neil Horman
2016-05-19 7:51 ` Panu Matilainen
2016-05-19 12:00 ` Neil Horman
2016-05-18 21:08 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv2 2/4] drivers: Update driver registration macro usage Neil Horman
2016-05-19 7:58 ` Panu Matilainen
2016-05-19 10:45 ` Neil Horman
2016-05-19 10:51 ` [dpdk-dev] [dpdk-dev, PATCHv2, " Jan Viktorin
[not found] ` <20160519124650.060aa09a@pcviktorin.fit.vutbr.cz>
2016-05-19 11:40 ` Neil Horman
2016-05-18 21:08 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv2 3/4] Makefile: Do post processing on objects that register a driver Neil Horman
2016-05-18 21:08 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv2 4/4] pmdinfo.py: Add tool to query binaries for hw and other support information Neil Horman
2016-05-19 9:02 ` Panu Matilainen
2016-05-19 12:00 ` Neil Horman
2016-05-20 5:22 ` Panu Matilainen
2016-05-20 8:55 ` Thomas Monjalon
2016-05-20 9:12 ` Panu Matilainen
2016-05-20 14:22 ` Neil Horman
2016-05-20 14:20 ` Neil Horman
2016-05-20 17:24 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv3 0/5] Implement pmd hardware support exports Neil Horman
2016-05-20 17:24 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv3 1/5] pmdinfogen: Add buildtools and pmdinfogen utility Neil Horman
2016-05-20 17:24 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv3 2/5] drivers: Update driver registration macro usage Neil Horman
2016-05-24 6:57 ` Panu Matilainen
2016-05-24 13:21 ` Neil Horman
2016-05-20 17:24 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv3 3/5] eal: Add an export symbol to expose the autoload path to external tools Neil Horman
2016-05-20 17:24 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv3 4/5] Makefile: Do post processing on objects that register a driver Neil Horman
2016-05-20 17:24 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv3 5/5] pmdinfo.py: Add tool to query binaries for hw and other support information Neil Horman
2016-05-24 7:41 ` Panu Matilainen
2016-05-24 15:17 ` Neil Horman
2016-05-24 8:34 ` Panu Matilainen
2016-05-24 19:41 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv4 0/5] Implement pmd hardware support exports Neil Horman
2016-05-24 19:41 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv4 1/5] pmdinfogen: Add buildtools and pmdinfogen utility Neil Horman
2016-05-25 13:21 ` Thomas Monjalon
2016-05-25 17:22 ` Neil Horman
2016-05-25 17:39 ` Thomas Monjalon
2016-05-25 19:13 ` Neil Horman
2016-05-25 19:39 ` Thomas Monjalon
2016-05-25 19:57 ` Neil Horman
2016-05-24 19:41 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv4 2/5] drivers: Update driver registration macro usage Neil Horman
2016-05-25 16:20 ` Thomas Monjalon
2016-05-25 17:35 ` Neil Horman
2016-05-24 19:41 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv4 3/5] eal: Add an export symbol to expose the autoload path to external tools Neil Horman
2016-05-24 19:41 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv4 4/5] Makefile: Do post processing on objects that register a driver Neil Horman
2016-05-25 17:08 ` Thomas Monjalon
2016-05-25 17:40 ` Neil Horman
2016-05-25 18:56 ` Thomas Monjalon
2016-05-25 19:43 ` Neil Horman
2016-05-25 20:04 ` Thomas Monjalon
2016-05-25 20:16 ` Neil Horman
2016-05-24 19:41 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv4 5/5] pmdinfo.py: Add tool to query binaries for hw and other support information Neil Horman
2016-05-25 17:22 ` Thomas Monjalon
2016-05-25 17:47 ` Neil Horman
2016-05-25 18:58 ` Thomas Monjalon
2016-05-27 9:16 ` Panu Matilainen
2016-05-27 11:35 ` Neil Horman
2016-05-27 12:46 ` Panu Matilainen [this message]
2016-05-25 8:32 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv4 0/5] Implement pmd hardware support exports Panu Matilainen
2016-05-25 11:27 ` Neil Horman
2016-05-26 17:17 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv5 0/6] " Neil Horman
2016-05-26 17:17 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv5 1/6] pmdinfogen: Add buildtools and pmdinfogen utility Neil Horman
2016-05-26 17:17 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv5 2/6] drivers: Update driver registration macro usage Neil Horman
2016-05-26 17:17 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv5 3/6] eal: Add an export symbol to expose the autoload path to external tools Neil Horman
2016-05-26 17:17 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv5 4/6] Makefile: Do post processing on objects that register a driver Neil Horman
2016-05-26 17:17 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv5 5/6] pmdinfo.py: Add tool to query binaries for hw and other support information Neil Horman
2016-05-27 14:38 ` Mcnamara, John
2016-05-27 19:56 ` Neil Horman
2016-05-26 17:17 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv5 6/6] remove rte.hostapp.mk Neil Horman
2016-05-31 13:57 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv6 0/7] Implement pmd hardware support exports Neil Horman
2016-05-31 13:57 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv6 1/7] pmdinfogen: Add buildtools and pmdinfogen utility Neil Horman
2016-06-07 9:57 ` Thomas Monjalon
2016-06-07 12:04 ` Neil Horman
2016-06-07 12:53 ` Thomas Monjalon
2016-06-07 13:03 ` Neil Horman
2016-06-07 13:24 ` Thomas Monjalon
2016-06-07 13:49 ` Neil Horman
2016-06-07 14:09 ` Thomas Monjalon
2016-05-31 13:57 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv6 2/7] drivers: Update driver registration macro usage Neil Horman
2016-05-31 13:57 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv6 3/7] eal: Add an export symbol to expose the autoload path to external tools Neil Horman
2016-05-31 13:57 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv6 4/7] Makefile: Do post processing on objects that register a driver Neil Horman
2016-05-31 13:57 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv6 5/7] pmdinfo.py: Add tool to query binaries for hw and other support information Neil Horman
2016-05-31 13:57 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv6 6/7] remove rte.hostapp.mk Neil Horman
2016-05-31 13:57 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv6 7/7] doc: Add prog_guide section documenting pmdinfo script Neil Horman
2016-06-08 17:14 ` Mcnamara, John
2016-06-09 17:31 ` Neil Horman
2016-06-05 0:20 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv6 0/7] Implement pmd hardware support exports Neil Horman
2016-06-07 9:34 ` Thomas Monjalon
2016-06-07 12:08 ` Neil Horman
2016-06-07 12:27 ` Thomas Monjalon
2016-06-09 17:46 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv7 0/6] " Neil Horman
2016-06-09 17:46 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv7 1/6] pmdinfogen: Add buildtools and pmdinfogen utility Neil Horman
2016-06-16 12:29 ` Panu Matilainen
2016-06-16 13:33 ` Neil Horman
2016-06-16 14:06 ` Panu Matilainen
2016-06-16 14:41 ` Neil Horman
2016-06-09 17:46 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv7 2/6] drivers: Update driver registration macro usage Neil Horman
2016-06-09 17:46 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv7 3/6] eal: Add an export symbol to expose the autoload path to external tools Neil Horman
2016-06-09 17:46 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv7 4/6] Makefile: Do post processing on objects that register a driver Neil Horman
2016-06-09 17:47 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv7 5/6] pmdinfo.py: Add tool to query binaries for hw and other support information Neil Horman
2016-06-16 12:32 ` Panu Matilainen
2016-06-09 17:47 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv7 6/6] doc: Add prog_guide section documenting pmdinfo script Neil Horman
2016-06-09 19:55 ` Mcnamara, John
2016-06-17 18:46 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv8 0/6] Implement pmd hardware support exports Neil Horman
2016-06-17 18:46 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv8 1/6] pmdinfogen: Add buildtools and pmdinfogen utility Neil Horman
2016-06-17 18:46 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv8 2/6] drivers: Update driver registration macro usage Neil Horman
2016-07-07 11:00 ` De Lara Guarch, Pablo
2016-07-07 11:39 ` Neil Horman
2016-07-07 15:37 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH] crypto: normalize cryptodev pmd names with macros Neil Horman
2016-07-08 9:09 ` De Lara Guarch, Pablo
2016-07-08 12:17 ` Neil Horman
2016-07-08 12:40 ` Thomas Monjalon
2016-07-08 13:42 ` Neil Horman
2016-07-08 19:03 ` Mcnamara, John
2016-07-09 13:34 ` Neil Horman
2016-07-09 16:04 ` Mcnamara, John
2016-07-08 14:00 ` De Lara Guarch, Pablo
2016-07-08 14:14 ` Neil Horman
2016-07-08 10:03 ` Thomas Monjalon
2016-07-08 16:34 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2] " Pablo de Lara
2016-07-08 16:46 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3] " Pablo de Lara
2016-07-08 17:14 ` Thomas Monjalon
2016-06-17 18:46 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv8 3/6] eal: Add an export symbol to expose the autoload path to external tools Neil Horman
2016-06-17 18:46 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv8 4/6] Makefile: Do post processing on objects that register a driver Neil Horman
2016-06-17 18:46 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv8 5/6] pmdinfo.py: Add tool to query binaries for hw and other support information Neil Horman
2016-06-29 15:12 ` Remy Horton
2016-06-29 16:18 ` Neil Horman
2016-06-30 7:45 ` Remy Horton
2016-06-17 18:46 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv8 6/6] doc: Add prog_guide section documenting pmdinfo script Neil Horman
2016-06-29 9:18 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv8 0/6] Implement pmd hardware support exports Remy Horton
2016-06-29 11:31 ` Neil Horman
2016-06-30 7:45 ` Remy Horton
2016-07-06 21:21 ` Thomas Monjalon
2016-07-04 1:13 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v9 0/7] export PMD infos Thomas Monjalon
2016-07-04 1:13 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v9 1/7] drivers: export infos as string symbols Thomas Monjalon
2016-07-04 1:14 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v9 2/7] mk: remove recipe for tool library Thomas Monjalon
2016-07-04 1:14 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v9 3/7] mk: refresh recipe for any host application Thomas Monjalon
2016-07-04 1:14 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v9 4/7] pmdinfogen: parse driver to generate code to export Thomas Monjalon
2016-07-04 1:14 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v9 5/7] mk: link infos generated by pmdinfogen Thomas Monjalon
2016-07-04 1:14 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v9 6/7] eal: export default plugin path to external tools Thomas Monjalon
2016-07-04 1:14 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v9 7/7] tools: query binaries for support information Thomas Monjalon
2016-07-04 12:34 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v9 0/7] export PMD infos Neil Horman
2016-07-04 13:10 ` Thomas Monjalon
2016-07-04 16:41 ` Neil Horman
2016-07-04 20:10 ` Thomas Monjalon
2016-07-05 20:08 ` Neil Horman
2016-07-06 15:33 ` Thomas Monjalon
2016-07-04 15:22 ` Bruce Richardson
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