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From: Tetsuya Mukawa <mukawa@igel.co.jp>
To: "Xie, Huawei" <huawei.xie@intel.com>,
	"dev@dpdk.org" <dev@dpdk.org>,
	"yuanhan.liu@linux.intel.com" <yuanhan.liu@linux.intel.com>,
	"Tan, Jianfeng" <jianfeng.tan@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [RFC PATCH 5/5] virtio: Extend virtio-net PMD to support container environment
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2016 19:37:14 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <56A2065A.9020207@igel.co.jp> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <C37D651A908B024F974696C65296B57B4C5A9001@SHSMSX101.ccr.corp.intel.com>

On 2016/01/22 17:14, Xie, Huawei wrote:
> On 1/21/2016 7:09 PM, Tetsuya Mukawa wrote:
>> virtio: Extend virtio-net PMD to support container environment
>>
>> The patch adds a new virtio-net PMD configuration that allows the PMD to
>> work on host as if the PMD is in VM.
>> Here is new configuration for virtio-net PMD.
>>  - CONFIG_RTE_LIBRTE_VIRTIO_HOST_MODE
>> To use this mode, EAL needs physically contiguous memory. To allocate
>> such memory, add "--shm" option to application command line.
>>
>> To prepare virtio-net device on host, the users need to invoke QEMU
>> process in special qtest mode. This mode is mainly used for testing QEMU
>> devices from outer process. In this mode, no guest runs.
>> Here is QEMU command line.
>>
>>  $ qemu-system-x86_64 \
>>              -machine pc-i440fx-1.4,accel=qtest \
>>              -display none -qtest-log /dev/null \
>>              -qtest unix:/tmp/socket,server \
>>              -netdev type=tap,script=/etc/qemu-ifup,id=net0,queues=1\
>>              -device virtio-net-pci,netdev=net0,mq=on \
>>              -chardev socket,id=chr1,path=/tmp/ivshmem,server \
>>              -device ivshmem,size=1G,chardev=chr1,vectors=1
>>
>>  * QEMU process is needed per port.
> Does qtest supports hot plug virtio-net pci device, so that we could run
> one QEMU process in host, which provisions the virtio-net virtual
> devices for the container?

Theoretically, we can use hot plug in some cases.
But I guess we have 3 concerns here.

1. Security.
If we share QEMU process between multiple DPDK applications, this QEMU
process will have all fds of  the applications on different containers.
In some cases, it will be security concern.
So, I guess we need to support current 1:1 configuration at least.

2. shared memory.
Currently, QEMU and DPDK application will map shared memory using same
virtual address.
So if multiple DPDK application connects to one QEMU process, each DPDK
application should have different address for shared memory. I guess
this will be a big limitation.

3. PCI bridge.
So far, QEMU has one PCI bridge, so we can connect almost 10 PCI devices
to QEMU.
(I forget correct number, but it's almost 10, because some slots are
reserved by QEMU)
A DPDK application needs both virtio-net and ivshmem device, so I guess
almost 5 DPDK applications can connect to one QEMU process, so far.
To add more PCI bridges solves this.
But we need to add a lot of implementation to support cascaded PCI
bridges and PCI devices.
(Also we need to solve above "2nd" concern.)

Anyway, if we use virtio-net PMD and vhost-user PMD, QEMU process will
not do anything after initialization.
(QEMU will try to read a qtest socket, then be stopped because there is
no message after initialization)
So I guess we can ignore overhead of these QEMU processes.
If someone cannot ignore it, I guess this is the one of cases that it's
nice to use your light weight container implementation.

Thanks,
Tetsuya

  reply	other threads:[~2016-01-22 10:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 120+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-01-18  9:13 [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 0/3] virtio: Add a new layer to abstract pci access method Tetsuya Mukawa
2016-01-18  9:13 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 1/3] virtio: Change the parameter order of io_write8/16/32() Tetsuya Mukawa
2016-01-21 11:07   ` [dpdk-dev] [RFC PATCH 0/5] virtio: Add a new layer to abstract pci access method Tetsuya Mukawa
2016-01-21 11:10     ` Tetsuya Mukawa
2016-01-21 11:07   ` [dpdk-dev] [RFC PATCH 1/5] virtio: Change the parameter order of io_write8/16/32() Tetsuya Mukawa
2016-01-21 11:07   ` [dpdk-dev] [RFC PATCH 2/5] virtio: move rte_eal_pci_unmap_device() to virtio_pci.c Tetsuya Mukawa
2016-01-21 11:07   ` [dpdk-dev] [RFC PATCH 3/5] virtio: Add a new layer to abstract pci access method Tetsuya Mukawa
2016-01-22  7:26     ` Xie, Huawei
2016-01-22  7:35       ` Tetsuya Mukawa
2016-01-21 11:07   ` [dpdk-dev] [RFC PATCH 4/5] EAL: Add new EAL "--shm" option Tetsuya Mukawa
2016-01-22  1:43     ` Tan, Jianfeng
2016-01-22  2:07       ` Tan, Jianfeng
2016-01-22  3:23         ` Tetsuya Mukawa
2016-01-21 11:07   ` [dpdk-dev] [RFC PATCH 5/5] virtio: Extend virtio-net PMD to support container environment Tetsuya Mukawa
2016-01-22  8:14     ` Xie, Huawei
2016-01-22 10:37       ` Tetsuya Mukawa [this message]
2016-01-25 10:15         ` Xie, Huawei
2016-01-26  2:58           ` Tetsuya Mukawa
2016-01-27  9:39             ` Xie, Huawei
2016-01-28  2:33               ` Tetsuya Mukawa
2016-01-25 10:17     ` Xie, Huawei
2016-01-26  2:58       ` Tetsuya Mukawa
2016-01-25 10:29     ` Xie, Huawei
2016-01-26  2:58       ` Tetsuya Mukawa
2016-01-27 10:03     ` Xie, Huawei
2016-01-28  2:44       ` Tetsuya Mukawa
2016-01-29  8:56         ` Xie, Huawei
2016-01-27 15:58     ` Xie, Huawei
2016-01-28  2:47       ` Tetsuya Mukawa
2016-01-28  9:48         ` Xie, Huawei
2016-01-28  9:53           ` Tetsuya Mukawa
2016-01-27 16:45     ` Xie, Huawei
2016-01-28  2:47       ` Tetsuya Mukawa
2016-01-28  6:15         ` Xie, Huawei
2016-01-28  6:29           ` Tetsuya Mukawa
2016-01-29  8:57     ` Yuanhan Liu
2016-01-29  9:13       ` Yuanhan Liu
2016-02-01  1:49         ` Tetsuya Mukawa
2016-02-10  3:40     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 0/5] Virtio-net PMD: QEMU QTest extension for container Tetsuya Mukawa
2016-02-10  3:40     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 1/5] virtio: Retrieve driver name from eth_dev Tetsuya Mukawa
2016-02-10  3:40     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 2/5] EAL: Add new EAL "--qtest-virtio" option Tetsuya Mukawa
2016-02-15  7:52       ` Tan, Jianfeng
2016-02-16  1:32         ` Tetsuya Mukawa
2016-02-16  5:53       ` David Marchand
2016-02-16 11:36         ` Tan, Jianfeng
2016-02-17  3:36           ` Tetsuya Mukawa
2016-02-22  8:17       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 0/6] Virtio-net PMD: QEMU QTest extension for container Tetsuya Mukawa
2016-02-22  8:17       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 1/6] virtio: Retrieve driver name from eth_dev Tetsuya Mukawa
2016-02-22  8:17       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 2/6] vhost: Add a function to check virtio device type Tetsuya Mukawa
2016-02-22  8:17       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 3/6] EAL: Add new EAL "--range-virtaddr" option Tetsuya Mukawa
2016-03-04  2:20         ` Tan, Jianfeng
2016-03-09  8:33         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 00/12] Virtio-net PMD: QEMU QTest extension for container Tetsuya Mukawa
2016-03-09  8:33         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 01/12] virtio: Retrieve driver name from eth_dev Tetsuya Mukawa
2016-03-09  8:33         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 02/12] vhost: Add a function to check virtio device type Tetsuya Mukawa
2016-03-09  8:33         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 03/12] EAL: Add a new "--range-virtaddr" option Tetsuya Mukawa
2016-03-09  8:33         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 04/12] EAL: Add a new "--align-memsize" option Tetsuya Mukawa
2016-03-09  8:33         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 05/12] virtio, qtest: Add QTest utility basic functions Tetsuya Mukawa
2016-03-09  8:33         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 06/12] virtio, qtest: Add pci device initialization function to qtest utils Tetsuya Mukawa
2016-03-09  8:33         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 07/12] virtio, qtest: Add functionality to share memory between QTest guest Tetsuya Mukawa
2016-03-09  8:33         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 08/12] virtio, qtest: Add functionality to handle interrupt Tetsuya Mukawa
2016-03-09  8:33         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 09/12] virtio, qtest: Add misc functions to handle pci information Tetsuya Mukawa
2016-03-09  8:33         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 10/12] virtio: Add QTest support to vtpci abstraction Tetsuya Mukawa
2016-03-09  8:33         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 11/12] virtio: Add QTest support for virtio-net PMD Tetsuya Mukawa
2016-06-02  3:29           ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 0/6] Virtio-net PMD: QEMU QTest extension for container Tetsuya Mukawa
2016-06-02  7:31             ` Yuanhan Liu
2016-06-02  9:30               ` Tetsuya Mukawa
2016-06-03  4:17                 ` Yuanhan Liu
2016-06-03 13:51                   ` Thomas Monjalon
2016-06-06  5:10                   ` Tetsuya Mukawa
2016-06-06  7:21                     ` Yuanhan Liu
2016-06-06  8:33                       ` Tetsuya Mukawa
2016-06-06  8:49                         ` Yuanhan Liu
2016-06-06  9:30                           ` Tetsuya Mukawa
2016-06-06  9:58                             ` Yuanhan Liu
2016-06-06 10:50                             ` Tan, Jianfeng
2016-06-07  7:12                               ` Tetsuya Mukawa
2016-06-07  7:33                                 ` Yuanhan Liu
2016-06-06  8:03                     ` Tan, Jianfeng
2016-06-06  9:28                       ` Tetsuya Mukawa
2016-06-06 10:35                         ` Tan, Jianfeng
2016-06-02  3:29           ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 1/6] virtio, qtest: Add QTest utility basic functions Tetsuya Mukawa
2016-06-02  3:29           ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 2/6] virtio, qtest: Add pci device initialization function to qtest utils Tetsuya Mukawa
2016-06-02  3:29           ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 3/6] virtio, qtest: Add functionality to share memory between QTest guest Tetsuya Mukawa
2016-06-02  3:29           ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 4/6] virtio, qtest: Add misc functions to handle pci information Tetsuya Mukawa
2016-06-02  3:29           ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 5/6] virtio: Add QTest support to vtpci abstraction Tetsuya Mukawa
2016-06-02  3:29           ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 6/6] virtio: Add QTest support for virtio-net PMD Tetsuya Mukawa
2016-06-02  3:30           ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v1 0/2] Supplement patches for virtio-qtest to support LSC interrupt Tetsuya Mukawa
2016-06-02  3:30           ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v1 1/2] virtio: Handle interrupt things under vtpci abstraction Tetsuya Mukawa
2016-06-02  3:30           ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v1 2/2] virtio, qtest: Add functionality to handle interrupt Tetsuya Mukawa
2016-03-09  8:33         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 12/12] docs: add release note for qtest virtio container support Tetsuya Mukawa
2016-02-22  8:17       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 4/6] EAL: Add a new "--align-memsize" option Tetsuya Mukawa
2016-02-22  8:17       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 5/6] virtio: Add support for qtest virtio-net PMD Tetsuya Mukawa
2016-03-04  2:18         ` Tan, Jianfeng
2016-03-04  5:05           ` Tetsuya Mukawa
2016-03-04  6:10             ` Tan, Jianfeng
2016-03-04  9:53               ` Tetsuya Mukawa
2016-02-22  8:17       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 6/6] docs: add release note for qtest virtio container support Tetsuya Mukawa
2016-02-22 15:40         ` Mcnamara, John
2016-02-23 10:28           ` Mcnamara, John
2016-02-24  1:20             ` Tetsuya Mukawa
2016-02-10  3:40     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 3/5] vhost: Add a function to check virtio device type Tetsuya Mukawa
2016-02-10  3:40     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 4/5] virtio: Add support for qtest virtio-net PMD Tetsuya Mukawa
2016-02-10  3:40     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 5/5] docs: add release note for qtest virtio container support Tetsuya Mukawa
2016-01-28  9:33   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 0/3] virtio: Add a new layer to abstract pci access method Tetsuya Mukawa
2016-01-28  9:33   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 1/3] virtio: Change the parameter order of io_write8/16/32() Tetsuya Mukawa
2016-01-28  9:33   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 2/3] virtio: move rte_eal_pci_unmap_device() to virtio_pci.c Tetsuya Mukawa
2016-01-28  9:33   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 3/3] virtio: Add a new layer to abstract pci access method Tetsuya Mukawa
2016-01-29  9:17     ` Yuanhan Liu
2016-02-01  1:50       ` Tetsuya Mukawa
2016-02-01 13:15         ` Yuanhan Liu
2016-02-02  2:19           ` Tetsuya Mukawa
2016-02-02  2:45             ` Yuanhan Liu
2016-02-02  3:55               ` Tetsuya Mukawa
2016-01-18  9:13 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 2/3] virtio: move rte_eal_pci_unmap_device() to virtio_pci.c Tetsuya Mukawa
2016-01-18  9:13 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 3/3] virtio: Add a new layer to abstract pci access method Tetsuya Mukawa
2016-01-18 13:46   ` Yuanhan Liu
2016-01-19  1:22     ` Tetsuya Mukawa
2016-01-19  2:41     ` Xie, Huawei
2016-01-18 13:13 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 0/3] " Tan, Jianfeng
2016-01-19  1:22   ` Tetsuya Mukawa

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