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From: Olivier Matz <olivier.matz@6wind.com>
To: "Lu, Wenzhuo" <wenzhuo.lu@intel.com>,
	Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org>
Cc: "dev@dpdk.org" <dev@dpdk.org>, "Tao, Zhe" <zhe.tao@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 2/8] lib/librte_ether: defind RX/TX lock mode
Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2016 09:50:57 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <57591FE1.9070908@6wind.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6A0DE07E22DDAD4C9103DF62FEBC090903483A7F@shsmsx102.ccr.corp.intel.com>

Hi,

On 06/08/2016 09:34 AM, Lu, Wenzhuo wrote:
> Hi Stephen,
> 
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Stephen Hemminger [mailto:stephen@networkplumber.org]
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 8, 2016 10:16 AM
>> To: Lu, Wenzhuo
>> Cc: dev@dpdk.org; Tao, Zhe
>> Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 2/8] lib/librte_ether: defind RX/TX lock mode
>>
>> On Mon,  6 Jun 2016 13:40:47 +0800
>> Wenzhuo Lu <wenzhuo.lu@intel.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Define lock mode for RX/TX queue. Because when resetting the device we
>>> want the resetting thread to get the lock of the RX/TX queue to make
>>> sure the RX/TX is stopped.
>>>
>>> Using next ABI macro for this ABI change as it has too much impact. 7
>>> APIs and 1 global variable are impacted.
>>>
>>> Signed-off-by: Wenzhuo Lu <wenzhuo.lu@intel.com>
>>> Signed-off-by: Zhe Tao <zhe.tao@intel.com>
>>
>> Why does this patch set make a different assumption the rest of the DPDK?
>>
>> The rest of the DPDK operates on the principle that the application is smart
>> enough to stop the device before making changes. There is no equivalent to the
>> Linux kernel RTNL mutex. The API assumes application threads are well behaved
>> and will not try and sabotage each other.
>>
>> If you restrict the reset operation to only being available when RX/TX is stopped,
>> then no lock is needed.
>>
>> The fact that it requires lots more locking inside each device driver implies to me
>> this is not correct way to architect this.

+1

I'm not sure adding locks is the proper way to do.
This is the application responsibility to ensure that:
- control functions are not called concurrently on the same port
- rx/tx functions are not called when the device is stopped/reset/...

However, I do think the usage paradigms of the ethdev api should be
better documented in rte_ethdev.h (ex: which functions can be called
concurrently). This would be a first step.

If we really want a helper API to do that in DPDK, the _next_ step
could be to add them in the ethdev api to achieve this. Maybe
something like (the function names could be better):

- to be called on one control thread:

  rte_eth_stop_rxtx(port)
  rte_eth_start_rxtx(port)

  rte_eth_get_rxtx_state(port)
     -> return "running" if at least one core is inside the rx/tx code
     -> return "stopped" if all cores are outside the rx/tx code

- to be called on dataplane cores:

  /* same than rte_eth_rx_burst(), but checks if rx/tx is allowed
   * first, else do nothing */
  rte_eth_rx_burst_interruptible()
  rte_eth_tx_burst_interruptible()


The code of control thread could be:

  rte_eth_stop_rxtx(port);
  /* wait that all dataplane cores finished their processing */
  while (rte_eth_get_rxtx_state(port) != stopped)
      ;
  rte_eth_some_control_operation(port);
  rte_eth_start_rxtx(port);


I think this could be done without any lock, just with the proper
memory barriers and a per-core status.

But this API may impose a paradigm to the application, and I'm not
sure the DPDK should do that.

Regards,
Olivier

  reply	other threads:[~2016-06-09  7:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 72+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-06-06  5:40 [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 0/8] support reset of VF link Wenzhuo Lu
2016-06-06  5:40 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 1/8] lib/librte_ether: support device reset Wenzhuo Lu
2016-06-06  5:40 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 2/8] lib/librte_ether: defind RX/TX lock mode Wenzhuo Lu
2016-06-08  2:15   ` Stephen Hemminger
2016-06-08  7:34     ` Lu, Wenzhuo
2016-06-09  7:50       ` Olivier Matz [this message]
2016-06-12  5:25         ` Lu, Wenzhuo
2016-06-10 18:12       ` Stephen Hemminger
2016-06-12  5:27         ` Lu, Wenzhuo
2016-06-06  5:40 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 3/8] ixgbe: RX/TX with lock on VF Wenzhuo Lu
2016-06-06  5:40 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 4/8] ixgbe: implement device reset " Wenzhuo Lu
2016-06-06  5:40 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 5/8] igb: RX/TX with lock " Wenzhuo Lu
2016-06-06  5:40 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 6/8] igb: implement device reset " Wenzhuo Lu
2016-06-06  5:40 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 7/8] i40e:RX/TX with lock " Wenzhuo Lu
2016-06-06  5:40 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 8/8] i40e: implement device reset " Wenzhuo Lu
2016-06-15  3:03 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 0/4] support reset of VF link Wenzhuo Lu
2016-06-15  3:03   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 1/4] lib/librte_ether: support device reset Wenzhuo Lu
2016-06-16 15:31     ` Bruce Richardson
2016-06-16 15:36     ` Thomas Monjalon
2016-06-15  3:03   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 2/4] ixgbe: implement device reset on VF Wenzhuo Lu
2016-06-15  3:03   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 3/4] igb: " Wenzhuo Lu
2016-06-15  3:03   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 4/4] i40e: " Wenzhuo Lu
2016-06-20  6:24 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 0/4] support reset of VF link Wenzhuo Lu
2016-06-20  6:24   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 1/4] lib/librte_ether: support device reset Wenzhuo Lu
2016-06-20  9:14     ` Jerin Jacob
2016-06-20 16:17       ` Stephen Hemminger
2016-06-21  3:51         ` Jerin Jacob
2016-06-21  6:14           ` Lu, Wenzhuo
2016-06-21  7:37             ` Jerin Jacob
2016-06-21  8:24               ` Lu, Wenzhuo
2016-06-21  8:55                 ` Jerin Jacob
2016-06-21  9:26                   ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2016-06-21 10:57                     ` Jerin Jacob
2016-06-21 13:10                       ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2016-06-21 13:30                         ` Jerin Jacob
2016-06-21 14:03                           ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2016-06-21 14:29                             ` Jerin Jacob
2016-06-22  1:35                               ` Lu, Wenzhuo
2016-06-22  2:37                                 ` Jerin Jacob
2016-06-22  3:32                                   ` Lu, Wenzhuo
2016-06-22  4:14                                     ` Jerin Jacob
2016-06-22  5:05                                       ` Lu, Wenzhuo
2016-06-22  6:10                                         ` Jerin Jacob
2016-06-22  6:42                                           ` Lu, Wenzhuo
2016-06-22  7:59                                             ` Jerin Jacob
2016-06-22  8:17                                               ` Thomas Monjalon
2016-06-22  8:25                                                 ` Lu, Wenzhuo
2016-06-22  9:18                                                   ` Thomas Monjalon
2016-06-22 11:06                                                     ` Jerin Jacob
2016-06-23  0:45                                                       ` Lu, Wenzhuo
2016-06-23  0:39                                                     ` Lu, Wenzhuo
2016-06-21  0:51       ` Lu, Wenzhuo
2016-06-20  6:24   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 2/4] ixgbe: implement device reset on VF Wenzhuo Lu
2016-06-20  6:24   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 3/4] igb: " Wenzhuo Lu
2016-06-20  6:24   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 4/4] i40e: " Wenzhuo Lu
2016-07-04 15:48   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 0/4] support reset of VF link Luca Boccassi
2016-07-05  0:52     ` Lu, Wenzhuo
2016-07-05  9:52       ` Luca Boccassi
2016-07-06  0:45         ` Lu, Wenzhuo
2016-07-06 16:26           ` Luca Boccassi
     [not found]           ` <1467822182.32466.34.camel@brocade.com>
2016-07-07  1:09             ` Lu, Wenzhuo
2016-07-07 10:20               ` Luca Boccassi
2016-07-07 13:12                 ` Lu, Wenzhuo
2016-07-07 16:19                   ` Luca Boccassi
2016-07-08  0:14                     ` Lu, Wenzhuo
2016-07-08 17:15                       ` Luca Boccassi
2016-07-11  1:32                         ` Lu, Wenzhuo
2016-07-11 12:02                           ` Luca Boccassi
2016-07-11 15:43                             ` Luca Boccassi
2016-07-12  1:19                               ` Lu, Wenzhuo
2016-08-26 12:58                               ` Luca Boccassi
2016-08-29  1:04                                 ` Lu, Wenzhuo

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