From: Olivier Matz <olivier.matz@6wind.com>
To: Jan Viktorin <viktorin@rehivetech.com>,
"Hunt, David" <david.hunt@intel.com>
Cc: Shreyansh Jain <shreyansh.jain@nxp.com>,
"dev@dpdk.org" <dev@dpdk.org>,
"jerin.jacob@caviumnetworks.com" <jerin.jacob@caviumnetworks.com>
Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v8 1/3] mempool: support external mempool operations
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2016 09:29:44 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <575A6C68.3090007@6wind.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160609150918.502322c8@pcviktorin.fit.vutbr.cz>
Hi,
On 06/09/2016 03:09 PM, Jan Viktorin wrote:
>>> My suggestion is to have an additional flag,
>>> 'MEMPOOL_F_PKT_ALLOC', which, if specified, would:
>>>
>>> ... #define MEMPOOL_F_SC_GET 0x0008 #define
>>> MEMPOOL_F_PKT_ALLOC 0x0010 ...
>>>
>>> in rte_mempool_create_empty: ... after checking the other
>>> MEMPOOL_F_* flags...
>>>
>>> if (flags & MEMPOOL_F_PKT_ALLOC) rte_mempool_set_ops_byname(mp,
>>> RTE_MBUF_DEFAULT_MEMPOOL_OPS)
>>>
>>> And removing the redundant call to rte_mempool_set_ops_byname()
>>> in rte_pktmbuf_create_pool().
>>>
>>> Thereafter, rte_pktmbuf_pool_create can be changed to:
>>>
>>> ... mp = rte_mempool_create_empty(name, n, elt_size, cache_size,
>>> - sizeof(struct rte_pktmbuf_pool_private), socket_id, 0);
>>> + sizeof(struct rte_pktmbuf_pool_private), socket_id, +
>>> MEMPOOL_F_PKT_ALLOC); if (mp == NULL) return NULL;
>>
>> Yes, this would simplify somewhat the creation of a pktmbuf pool,
>> in that it replaces the rte_mempool_set_ops_byname with a flag bit.
>> However, I'm not sure we want to introduce a third method of
>> creating a mempool to the developers. If we introduced this, we
>> would then have: 1. rte_pktmbuf_pool_create() 2.
>> rte_mempool_create_empty() with MEMPOOL_F_PKT_ALLOC set (which
>> would use the configured custom handler) 3.
>> rte_mempool_create_empty() with MEMPOOL_F_PKT_ALLOC __not__ set
>> followed by a call to rte_mempool_set_ops_byname() (would allow
>> several different custom handlers to be used in one application
>>
>> Does anyone else have an opinion on this? Oliver, Jerin, Jan?
>
> I am quite careful about this topic as I don't feel to be very
> involved in all the use cases. My opinion is that the _new API_
> should be able to cover all cases and the _old API_ should be
> backwards compatible, however, built on top of the _new API_.
>
> I.e. I think, the flags MEMPOOL_F_SP_PUT, MEMPOOL_F_SC_GET (relicts
> of the old API) should be accepted by the old API ONLY. The
> rte_mempool_create_empty should not process them.
The rte_mempool_create_empty() function already processes these flags
(SC_GET, SP_PUT) as of today.
> Similarly for a potential MEMPOOL_F_PKT_ALLOC, I would not polute the
> rte_mempool_create_empty by this anymore.
+1
I think we should stop adding flags. Flags are prefered for independent
features. Here, what would be the behavior with MEMPOOL_F_PKT_ALLOC +
MEMPOOL_F_SP_PUT?
Another reason to not add this flag is the rte_mempool library
should not be aware of mbufs. The mbuf pools rely on mempools, but
not the contrary.
> In overall we would get exactly 2 approaches (and not more):
>
> * using rte_mempool_create with flags calling the
> rte_mempool_create_empty and rte_mempool_set_ops_byname internally
> (so this layer can be marked as deprecated and removed in the
> future)
Agree. This was one of the objective of my mempool rework patchset:
provide a more flexible API, and avoid functions with 10 to 15
arguments.
> * using rte_mempool_create_empty + rte_mempool_set_ops_byname -
> allowing any customizations but with the necessity to change the
> applications (new preferred API)
Yes.
And if required, maybe a third API is possible in case of mbuf pools.
Indeed, the applications are encouraged to use rte_pktmbuf_pool_create()
to create a pool of mbuf instead of mempool API. If an application
wants to select specific ops for it, we could add:
rte_pktmbuf_pool_create_<something>(..., name)
instead of using the mempool API.
I think this is what Shreyansh suggests when he says:
It sounds fine if calls to rte_mempool_* can select an external
handler *optionally* - but, if we pass it as command line, it would
be binding (at least, semantically) for rte_pktmbuf_* calls as well.
Isn't it?
> So, the old applications can stay as they are (OK, with a possible
> new flag MEMPOOL_F_PKT_ALLOC) and the new one can do the same but you
> have to set the ops explicitly.
>
> The more different ways of using those APIs we have, the greater hell
> we have to maintain.
I'm really not in favor of a MEMPOOL_F_PKT_ALLOC flag in mempool api.
I think David's patch is already a good step forward. Let's do it
step by step. Next step is maybe to update some applications (at least
testpmd) to select a new pool handler dynamically.
Regards,
Olivier
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-06-10 7:29 UTC|newest]
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2016-01-26 17:25 [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 0/5] add external mempool manager David Hunt
2016-01-26 17:25 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 1/5] mempool: add external mempool manager support David Hunt
2016-01-28 17:52 ` Jerin Jacob
2016-02-03 14:16 ` Hunt, David
2016-02-04 13:23 ` Jerin Jacob
2016-02-04 14:52 ` Olivier MATZ
2016-02-04 16:47 ` Hunt, David
2016-02-08 11:02 ` Olivier MATZ
2016-02-04 17:34 ` Hunt, David
2016-02-05 9:26 ` Olivier MATZ
2016-03-01 13:32 ` Hunt, David
2016-03-04 9:05 ` Olivier MATZ
2016-03-08 10:04 ` Hunt, David
2016-01-26 17:25 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 2/5] memool: add stack (lifo) based external mempool handler David Hunt
2016-01-26 17:25 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 3/5] mempool: add custom external mempool handler example David Hunt
2016-01-28 17:54 ` Jerin Jacob
2016-01-26 17:25 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 4/5] mempool: add autotest for external mempool custom example David Hunt
2016-01-26 17:25 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 5/5] mempool: allow rte_pktmbuf_pool_create switch between memool handlers David Hunt
2016-02-05 10:11 ` Olivier MATZ
2016-01-28 17:26 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 0/5] add external mempool manager Jerin Jacob
2016-01-29 13:40 ` Hunt, David
2016-01-29 17:16 ` Jerin Jacob
2016-02-16 14:48 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 0/6] " David Hunt
2016-02-16 14:48 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 1/6] mempool: add external mempool manager support David Hunt
2016-02-16 19:27 ` [dpdk-dev] [dpdk-dev, " Jan Viktorin
2016-02-19 13:30 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH " Olivier MATZ
2016-02-29 11:11 ` Hunt, David
2016-03-04 9:04 ` Olivier MATZ
2016-02-16 14:48 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 2/6] mempool: add stack (lifo) based external mempool handler David Hunt
2016-02-19 13:31 ` Olivier MATZ
2016-02-29 11:04 ` Hunt, David
2016-03-04 9:04 ` Olivier MATZ
2016-03-08 20:45 ` Venkatesan, Venky
2016-03-09 14:53 ` Olivier MATZ
2016-02-16 14:48 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 3/6] mempool: adds a simple ring-based mempool handler using mallocs for objects David Hunt
2016-02-16 14:48 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 4/6] mempool: add autotest for external mempool custom example David Hunt
2016-02-16 14:48 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 5/6] mempool: allow rte_pktmbuf_pool_create switch between memool handlers David Hunt
2016-02-16 14:48 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 6/6] mempool: add in the RTE_NEXT_ABI protection for ABI breakages David Hunt
2016-02-19 13:33 ` Olivier MATZ
2016-02-19 13:25 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 0/6] external mempool manager Olivier MATZ
2016-02-29 10:55 ` Hunt, David
2016-03-09 9:50 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 0/4] " David Hunt
2016-03-09 9:50 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 1/4] mempool: add external mempool manager support David Hunt
2016-04-11 22:52 ` Yuanhan Liu
2016-03-09 9:50 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 2/4] mempool: add custom mempool handler example David Hunt
2016-03-09 9:50 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 3/4] mempool: allow rte_pktmbuf_pool_create switch between memool handlers David Hunt
2016-03-09 10:54 ` Panu Matilainen
2016-03-09 11:38 ` Hunt, David
2016-03-09 11:44 ` Panu Matilainen
2016-03-09 9:50 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 4/4] mempool: add in the RTE_NEXT_ABI for ABI breakages David Hunt
2016-03-09 10:46 ` Panu Matilainen
2016-03-09 11:30 ` Hunt, David
2016-03-09 14:59 ` Olivier MATZ
2016-03-09 16:28 ` Hunt, David
2016-03-09 16:31 ` Olivier MATZ
2016-03-09 16:39 ` Hunt, David
2016-03-09 11:10 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 0/4] external mempool manager Hunt, David
2016-04-11 22:46 ` Yuanhan Liu
2016-04-14 13:57 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 0/3] " Olivier Matz
2016-04-14 13:57 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 1/3] mempool: support external handler Olivier Matz
2016-04-14 13:57 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 2/3] app/test: test external mempool handler Olivier Matz
2016-04-14 13:57 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 3/3] mbuf: get default mempool handler from configuration Olivier Matz
2016-05-19 13:44 ` [dpdk-dev] mempool: external mempool manager David Hunt
2016-05-19 13:44 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 1/3] mempool: support external handler David Hunt
2016-05-23 12:35 ` [dpdk-dev] [dpdk-dev,v5,1/3] " Jan Viktorin
2016-05-24 14:04 ` Hunt, David
2016-05-31 9:09 ` Hunt, David
2016-05-31 12:06 ` Jan Viktorin
2016-05-31 13:47 ` Hunt, David
2016-05-31 20:40 ` Olivier MATZ
2016-06-01 9:39 ` Hunt, David
2016-06-01 12:30 ` Jan Viktorin
2016-05-24 15:35 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 1/3] " Jerin Jacob
2016-05-27 9:52 ` Hunt, David
2016-05-27 10:33 ` Jerin Jacob
2016-05-27 14:44 ` Hunt, David
2016-05-30 9:41 ` Jerin Jacob
2016-05-30 11:27 ` Hunt, David
2016-05-31 8:53 ` Jerin Jacob
2016-05-31 15:37 ` Hunt, David
2016-05-31 16:03 ` Jerin Jacob
2016-05-31 20:41 ` Olivier MATZ
2016-05-31 21:11 ` Jerin Jacob
2016-06-01 10:46 ` Hunt, David
2016-06-01 11:18 ` Jerin Jacob
2016-05-19 13:45 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 2/3] app/test: test external mempool handler David Hunt
2016-05-23 12:45 ` [dpdk-dev] [dpdk-dev, v5, " Jan Viktorin
2016-05-31 9:17 ` Hunt, David
2016-05-31 12:14 ` Jan Viktorin
2016-05-31 20:40 ` Olivier MATZ
2016-05-19 13:45 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 3/3] mbuf: get default mempool handler from configuration David Hunt
2016-05-23 12:40 ` [dpdk-dev] [dpdk-dev, v5, " Jan Viktorin
2016-05-31 9:26 ` Hunt, David
2016-06-01 16:19 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 0/5] mempool: add external mempool manager David Hunt
2016-06-01 16:19 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 1/5] mempool: support external handler David Hunt
2016-06-01 16:29 ` Hunt, David
2016-06-01 17:54 ` Jan Viktorin
2016-06-02 9:11 ` Hunt, David
2016-06-02 11:23 ` Hunt, David
2016-06-02 13:43 ` Jan Viktorin
2016-06-01 16:19 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 2/5] mempool: remove rte_ring from rte_mempool struct David Hunt
2016-06-01 16:19 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 3/5] mempool: add default external mempool handler David Hunt
2016-06-01 16:19 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 4/5] app/test: test " David Hunt
2016-06-01 16:19 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 5/5] mbuf: get default mempool handler from configuration David Hunt
2016-06-02 13:27 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v7 0/5] mempool: add external mempool manager David Hunt
2016-06-02 13:27 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v7 1/5] mempool: support external mempool operations David Hunt
2016-06-02 13:38 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v7 0/5] mempool: add external mempool manager Hunt, David
2016-06-03 6:38 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v7 1/5] mempool: support external mempool operations Jerin Jacob
2016-06-03 10:28 ` Hunt, David
2016-06-03 10:49 ` Jerin Jacob
2016-06-03 11:07 ` Olivier MATZ
2016-06-03 11:42 ` Jan Viktorin
2016-06-03 12:10 ` Hunt, David
2016-06-03 12:28 ` Olivier MATZ
2016-06-02 13:27 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v7 2/5] mempool: remove rte_ring from rte_mempool struct David Hunt
2016-06-03 12:28 ` Olivier MATZ
2016-06-03 14:17 ` Hunt, David
2016-06-02 13:27 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v7 3/5] mempool: add default external mempool ops David Hunt
2016-06-02 13:27 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v7 4/5] app/test: test external mempool manager David Hunt
2016-06-02 13:27 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v7 5/5] mbuf: allow apps to change default mempool ops David Hunt
2016-06-03 12:28 ` Olivier MATZ
2016-06-03 14:06 ` Hunt, David
2016-06-03 14:10 ` Olivier Matz
2016-06-03 14:14 ` Hunt, David
2016-06-03 14:58 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v8 0/5] mempool: add external mempool manager David Hunt
2016-06-03 14:58 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v8 1/3] mempool: support external mempool operations David Hunt
2016-06-06 14:32 ` Shreyansh Jain
2016-06-06 14:38 ` Shreyansh Jain
2016-06-07 9:25 ` Hunt, David
2016-06-08 13:48 ` Shreyansh Jain
2016-06-09 9:39 ` Hunt, David
2016-06-09 10:31 ` Jerin Jacob
2016-06-09 11:06 ` Hunt, David
2016-06-09 11:49 ` Shreyansh Jain
2016-06-09 12:30 ` Jerin Jacob
2016-06-09 13:03 ` Shreyansh Jain
2016-06-09 13:18 ` Hunt, David
2016-06-09 13:37 ` Jerin Jacob
2016-06-09 11:41 ` Shreyansh Jain
2016-06-09 12:55 ` Hunt, David
2016-06-09 13:09 ` Jan Viktorin
2016-06-10 7:29 ` Olivier Matz [this message]
2016-06-10 8:49 ` Jan Viktorin
2016-06-10 9:02 ` Hunt, David
2016-06-10 9:34 ` Hunt, David
2016-06-10 11:29 ` Shreyansh Jain
2016-06-10 11:13 ` Jerin Jacob
2016-06-10 11:37 ` Shreyansh Jain
2016-06-07 9:05 ` Shreyansh Jain
2016-06-08 12:13 ` Olivier Matz
2016-06-09 10:33 ` Hunt, David
2016-06-08 14:28 ` Shreyansh Jain
2016-06-03 14:58 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v8 2/3] app/test: test external mempool manager David Hunt
2016-06-03 14:58 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v8 3/3] mbuf: make default mempool ops configurable at build David Hunt
2016-06-10 15:16 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v9 0/3] mempool: add external mempool manager David Hunt
2016-06-10 15:16 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v9 1/3] mempool: support external mempool operations David Hunt
2016-06-13 12:16 ` Olivier Matz
2016-06-13 13:46 ` Hunt, David
2016-06-10 15:16 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v9 2/3] app/test: test external mempool manager David Hunt
2016-06-10 15:16 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v9 3/3] mbuf: make default mempool ops configurable at build David Hunt
2016-06-14 9:46 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v10 0/3] mempool: add external mempool manager David Hunt
2016-06-14 9:46 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v10 1/3] mempool: support external mempool operations David Hunt
2016-06-14 11:38 ` Shreyansh Jain
2016-06-14 12:55 ` Thomas Monjalon
2016-06-14 13:20 ` Hunt, David
2016-06-14 13:29 ` Thomas Monjalon
2016-06-14 9:46 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v10 2/3] app/test: test external mempool manager David Hunt
2016-06-14 11:39 ` Shreyansh Jain
2016-06-14 9:46 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v10 3/3] mbuf: make default mempool ops configurable at build David Hunt
2016-06-14 11:45 ` Shreyansh Jain
2016-06-14 12:32 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v10 0/3] mempool: add external mempool manager Olivier MATZ
2016-06-14 15:48 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v11 " David Hunt
2016-06-14 15:48 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v11 1/3] mempool: support external mempool operations David Hunt
2016-06-14 16:08 ` Thomas Monjalon
2016-06-14 15:49 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v11 2/3] app/test: test external mempool manager David Hunt
2016-06-14 15:49 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v11 3/3] mbuf: make default mempool ops configurable at build David Hunt
2016-06-15 7:47 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v12 0/3] mempool: add external mempool manager David Hunt
2016-06-15 7:47 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v12 1/3] mempool: support external mempool operations David Hunt
2016-06-15 10:14 ` Jan Viktorin
2016-06-15 10:29 ` Hunt, David
2016-06-15 11:26 ` Jan Viktorin
2016-06-15 11:38 ` Thomas Monjalon
2016-06-15 7:47 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v12 2/3] app/test: test external mempool manager David Hunt
2016-06-15 7:47 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v12 3/3] mbuf: make default mempool ops configurable at build David Hunt
2016-06-15 10:13 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v12 0/3] mempool: add external mempool manager Jan Viktorin
2016-06-15 11:47 ` Hunt, David
2016-06-15 12:03 ` Olivier MATZ
2016-06-15 12:38 ` Hunt, David
2016-06-15 13:50 ` Olivier MATZ
2016-06-15 14:02 ` Hunt, David
2016-06-15 14:10 ` Olivier MATZ
2016-06-15 14:47 ` Jan Viktorin
2016-06-15 16:03 ` Hunt, David
2016-06-15 16:34 ` Hunt, David
2016-06-15 16:40 ` Olivier MATZ
2016-06-16 4:35 ` Shreyansh Jain
2016-06-16 7:04 ` Hunt, David
2016-06-16 7:47 ` Hunt, David
2016-06-16 8:47 ` Olivier MATZ
2016-06-16 8:55 ` Hunt, David
2016-06-16 8:58 ` Olivier MATZ
2016-06-16 11:34 ` Hunt, David
2016-06-16 12:30 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v13 " David Hunt
2016-06-16 12:30 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v13 1/3] mempool: support external mempool operations David Hunt
2016-06-17 6:58 ` Hunt, David
2016-06-17 8:08 ` Olivier Matz
2016-06-17 8:42 ` Hunt, David
2016-06-17 9:09 ` Thomas Monjalon
2016-06-17 9:24 ` Hunt, David
2016-06-17 10:19 ` Olivier Matz
2016-06-17 10:18 ` Olivier Matz
2016-06-17 10:47 ` Hunt, David
2016-06-16 12:30 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v13 2/3] app/test: test external mempool manager David Hunt
2016-06-16 12:30 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v13 3/3] mbuf: make default mempool ops configurable at build David Hunt
2016-06-17 13:53 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v14 0/3] mempool: add mempool handler feature David Hunt
2016-06-17 13:53 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v14 1/3] mempool: support mempool handler operations David Hunt
2016-06-17 14:35 ` Jan Viktorin
2016-06-19 11:44 ` Hunt, David
2016-06-17 13:53 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v14 2/3] app/test: test mempool handler David Hunt
2016-06-17 14:37 ` Jan Viktorin
2016-06-17 13:53 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v14 3/3] mbuf: make default mempool ops configurable at build David Hunt
2016-06-17 14:41 ` Jan Viktorin
2016-06-19 12:05 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v15 0/3] mempool: add mempool handler feature David Hunt
2016-06-19 12:05 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v15 1/3] mempool: support mempool handler operations David Hunt
2016-06-19 12:05 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v15 2/3] app/test: test mempool handler David Hunt
2016-06-19 12:05 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v15 3/3] mbuf: make default mempool ops configurable at build David Hunt
2016-06-22 7:56 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v15 0/3] mempool: add mempool handler feature Thomas Monjalon
2016-06-22 8:02 ` Thomas Monjalon
2016-06-22 9:27 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v16 " David Hunt
2016-06-22 9:27 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v16 1/3] mempool: support mempool handler operations David Hunt
2016-06-22 9:27 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v16 2/3] app/test: test mempool handler David Hunt
2016-06-22 9:27 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v16 3/3] mbuf: make default mempool ops configurable at build David Hunt
2016-06-23 21:22 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v16 0/3] mempool: add mempool handler feature Thomas Monjalon
2016-06-24 4:55 ` Wiles, Keith
2016-06-24 11:20 ` Jan Viktorin
2016-06-24 11:24 ` Thomas Monjalon
2016-06-24 13:10 ` Jan Viktorin
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