From: Ferruh Yigit <ferruh.yigit@intel.com>
To: Alex Rosenbaum <rosenbaumalex@gmail.com>,
"Wiles, Keith" <keith.wiles@intel.com>
Cc: "Dumitrescu, Cristian" <cristian.dumitrescu@intel.com>,
Jay Rolette <rolette@infinite.io>,
Thomas Monjalon <thomas@monjalon.net>, DPDK <dev@dpdk.org>
Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [RFC] Kernel Control Path (KCP)
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2017 16:27:47 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <7879b121-fca9-995a-0087-12c840fbc47e@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAFgAxU-sx_1_MSQqymV-q6SbHFUAZQru5tELo39-sJ6PzqeGew@mail.gmail.com>
Hi Alex,
On 6/15/2017 1:07 PM, Alex Rosenbaum wrote:
> please excuse me if I missed out of the previous conversation and
> asking these questions again...
>
> Why create a new driver instead of improving the existing KNI driver?
For control path, KNI uses Linux kernel driver within KNI kernel module.
This method works, but may not be best option, and technically not
extendable for some drivers. KNI control path currently supports only
two drivers, proposed KCP works for all PMDs by default.
Overall, KCP is outcome of the effort of improving KNI control path.
Initial proposal was (a year ago I guess) introducing two new modules,
one for control path and one for data path, and replace KNI completely.
But current target is have KCP to have better control path support.
Also, KNI handles both data and control path. But both are different
functionalities and not need to be in some module. For example an
application may not need exception data path to kernel, but may be
interested in controlling DPDK interfaces via common Linux tools.
> Can you share a table of the differences between the two driver /
> approaches [KNI vs KCP]?
KCP differences against KNI:
- KCP is only for control path
- Linux virtual interfaces created automatically, without DPDK
application modification.
- To create/destroy interfaces KCP uses rtnl, KNI uses ioctl. So
technically it is possible to use "ip" tool to create / destroy
interfaces supported by KCP.
- KCP kernel module and userspace counterpart communicates via netlink,
KNI uses ioctl.
- KCP works for all PMDs without update on PMDs.
>
> Why do you want to remove features like data path that is provided by KNI today?
There is not intention to remove exception data path, the focus is to
improve KNI.
>
> thanks,
> Alex
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-06-16 15:27 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 91+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-05-26 16:52 Ferruh Yigit
2017-05-28 16:55 ` Wiles, Keith
2017-05-29 9:26 ` Bruce Richardson
2017-05-29 17:29 ` Wiles, Keith
2017-06-16 15:54 ` Ferruh Yigit
2017-06-20 12:33 ` Ferruh Yigit
2017-05-30 10:55 ` Thomas Monjalon
2017-06-13 17:21 ` Ferruh Yigit
2017-06-13 18:00 ` Jay Rolette
2017-06-13 18:04 ` Dumitrescu, Cristian
2017-06-13 18:18 ` Wiles, Keith
2017-06-15 12:07 ` Alex Rosenbaum
2017-06-16 15:27 ` Ferruh Yigit [this message]
2017-06-16 16:48 ` Stephen Hemminger
2017-06-13 18:17 ` Wiles, Keith
2017-06-21 11:06 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v8 0/4] Userspace Network Control Interface (UNCI) Ferruh Yigit
2017-06-21 11:06 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v8 1/4] ethtool: move from sample folder to lib folder Ferruh Yigit
2017-06-26 11:02 ` Bruce Richardson
2017-06-21 11:06 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v8 2/4] unci: add kernel control path kernel module Ferruh Yigit
2017-06-21 15:23 ` Stephen Hemminger
2017-06-30 17:02 ` Ferruh Yigit
2017-06-21 11:06 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v8 3/4] rte_ctrl_if: add control interface library Ferruh Yigit
2017-06-26 11:09 ` Bruce Richardson
2017-06-26 11:30 ` Bruce Richardson
2017-06-21 11:06 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v8 4/4] ethdev: add control interface support Ferruh Yigit
2017-06-21 15:24 ` Stephen Hemminger
2017-06-30 17:06 ` Ferruh Yigit
2017-06-26 11:39 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v8 0/4] Userspace Network Control Interface (UNCI) Bruce Richardson
2017-06-29 16:13 ` Ferruh Yigit
2017-06-30 16:56 ` Ferruh Yigit
2017-06-30 16:51 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v9 00/20] " Ferruh Yigit
2017-06-30 16:51 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v9 01/20] ethtool: add library skeleton Ferruh Yigit
2017-06-30 16:51 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v9 02/20] ethtool: move from sample folder into lib folder Ferruh Yigit
2017-06-30 16:51 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v9 03/20] ethtool: remove PMD specific API call Ferruh Yigit
2017-06-30 16:51 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v9 04/20] ethtool: update header doxygen syntax Ferruh Yigit
2017-06-30 16:51 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v9 05/20] ethtool: enable library Ferruh Yigit
2017-06-30 16:51 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v9 06/20] doc: add ethtool library documentation Ferruh Yigit
2017-07-02 20:18 ` Mcnamara, John
2017-06-30 16:51 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v9 07/20] doc: update ethtool sample app doc Ferruh Yigit
2017-07-02 20:17 ` Mcnamara, John
2017-06-30 16:51 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v9 08/20] unci: add module skeleton Ferruh Yigit
2017-06-30 16:51 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v9 09/20] unci: add rtnl newlink Ferruh Yigit
2017-06-30 17:27 ` Stephen Hemminger
2017-06-30 16:51 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v9 10/20] unci: init netlink Ferruh Yigit
2017-06-30 17:28 ` Stephen Hemminger
2017-06-30 17:29 ` Stephen Hemminger
2017-06-30 16:51 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v9 11/20] unci: add netlink exec Ferruh Yigit
2017-06-30 16:51 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v9 12/20] unci: add netdevice ops Ferruh Yigit
2017-06-30 16:51 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v9 13/20] unci: add ethtool support Ferruh Yigit
2017-06-30 16:51 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v9 14/20] ctrl_if: add library skeleton Ferruh Yigit
2017-06-30 16:51 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v9 15/20] ctrl_if: add create destroy interface APIs Ferruh Yigit
2017-06-30 16:51 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v9 16/20] ctrl_if: initialize netlink interface Ferruh Yigit
2017-06-30 16:51 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v9 17/20] ctrl_if: process control messages Ferruh Yigit
2017-06-30 16:51 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v9 18/20] ctrl_if: process ethtool messages Ferruh Yigit
2017-06-30 16:51 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v9 19/20] doc: add control interface library documentation Ferruh Yigit
2017-07-02 20:16 ` Mcnamara, John
2017-06-30 16:51 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v9 20/20] ethdev: add control interface support Ferruh Yigit
2017-07-04 16:13 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v10 00/20] Userspace Network Control Interface (UNCI) Ferruh Yigit
2017-07-04 16:13 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v10 01/20] ethtool: add library skeleton Ferruh Yigit
2017-07-04 16:13 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v10 02/20] ethtool: move from sample folder into lib folder Ferruh Yigit
2017-07-04 16:13 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v10 03/20] ethtool: remove PMD specific API call Ferruh Yigit
2017-07-04 16:13 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v10 04/20] ethtool: update header doxygen syntax Ferruh Yigit
2017-07-06 9:18 ` Burakov, Anatoly
2017-07-04 16:13 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v10 05/20] ethtool: enable library Ferruh Yigit
2017-07-04 16:13 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v10 06/20] doc: add ethtool library documentation Ferruh Yigit
2017-07-04 16:13 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v10 07/20] doc: update ethtool sample app doc Ferruh Yigit
2017-07-04 16:13 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v10 08/20] unci: add module skeleton Ferruh Yigit
2017-07-06 9:25 ` Burakov, Anatoly
2017-07-04 16:13 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v10 09/20] unci: add rtnl newlink Ferruh Yigit
2017-07-04 16:13 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v10 10/20] unci: init netlink Ferruh Yigit
2017-07-06 9:32 ` Burakov, Anatoly
2017-07-04 16:13 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v10 11/20] unci: add netlink exec Ferruh Yigit
2017-07-05 19:07 ` Stephen Hemminger
2017-07-06 10:45 ` Ferruh Yigit
2017-07-07 0:25 ` Stephen Hemminger
2017-07-05 19:15 ` Stephen Hemminger
2017-07-04 16:13 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v10 12/20] unci: add netdevice ops Ferruh Yigit
2017-07-05 19:12 ` Stephen Hemminger
2017-07-05 19:12 ` Stephen Hemminger
2017-07-04 16:13 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v10 13/20] unci: add ethtool support Ferruh Yigit
2017-07-05 19:07 ` Stephen Hemminger
2017-07-05 19:08 ` Stephen Hemminger
2017-07-04 16:13 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v10 14/20] ctrl_if: add library skeleton Ferruh Yigit
2017-07-04 16:13 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v10 15/20] ctrl_if: add create destroy interface APIs Ferruh Yigit
2017-07-04 16:13 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v10 16/20] ctrl_if: initialize generic netlink interface Ferruh Yigit
2017-07-04 16:13 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v10 17/20] ctrl_if: process control messages Ferruh Yigit
2017-07-04 16:13 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v10 18/20] ctrl_if: process ethtool messages Ferruh Yigit
2017-07-04 16:13 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v10 19/20] doc: add control interface library documentation Ferruh Yigit
2017-07-04 16:13 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v10 20/20] ethdev: add control interface support Ferruh Yigit
2017-07-08 6:28 ` Yuanhan Liu
2017-07-20 14:55 ` Ferruh Yigit
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