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From: Thomas Monjalon <thomas@monjalon.net>
To: Ferruh Yigit <ferruh.yigit@xilinx.com>,
	"dev@dpdk.org" <dev@dpdk.org>, Ian Stokes <ian.stokes@intel.com>,
	David Marchand <david.marchand@redhat.com>,
	Chaoyong He <chaoyong.he@corigine.com>
Cc: oss-drivers <oss-drivers@corigine.com>,
	Niklas Soderlund <niklas.soderlund@corigine.com>,
	Andrew Rybchenko <andrew.rybchenko@oktetlabs.ru>,
	Jerin Jacob Kollanukkaran <jerinj@marvell.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v9 05/12] net/nfp: add flower PF setup logic
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2022 09:35:43 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <831874198.0ifERbkFSE@thomas> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <SJ0PR13MB55452B2239840826758AC73A9E4F9@SJ0PR13MB5545.namprd13.prod.outlook.com>

I don't understand your logic fully,
but I understand you need special code to make your hardware work with OvS,
meaning:
	- OvS must have a special handling for your HW
	- other applications won't work
Tell me I misunderstand,
but I feel we should not accept this patch,
there is probably a better way to manage the specific of your HW.

You said "NFP PMD can work with up to 8 ports on the same PF device."
Let's imagine you have 8 ports for 1 PF device.
Do you allocate 8 ethdev ports?
If yes, then each ethdev should do the internal work,
and nothing is needed at application level.


21/09/2022 04:50, Chaoyong He:
> > On 9/15/2022 11:44 AM, Chaoyong He wrote:
> > Hi Chaoyong,
> > 
> > Again, similar comment to previous versions, what I understand is this new
> > flower FW supports HW flow filter and intended use case is for OvS HW
> > acceleration.
> > But is DPDK driver need to know OvS data structures, like "struct dp_packet",
> > can it be transparent to application, I am sure there are other devices
> > offloading some OvS task to HW.
> > 
> > @Ian, @David,
> > 
> > Can you please comment on above usage, do you guys see any way to
> > escape from OvS specific code in the driver?
> 
> Firstly, I'll explain why we must include some OvS specific code in the driver.
> If we don't set the `pkt->source = 3`, the OvS will coredump like this:
> ```
> (gdb) bt
> #0  0x00007fe1d48fd387 in raise () from /lib64/libc.so.6
> #1  0x00007fe1d48fea78 in abort () from /lib64/libc.so.6
> #2  0x00007fe1d493ff67 in __libc_message () from /lib64/libc.so.6
> #3  0x00007fe1d4948329 in _int_free () from /lib64/libc.so.6
> #4  0x000000000049c006 in dp_packet_uninit (b=0x1f262db80) at lib/dp-packet.c:135
> #5  0x000000000061440a in dp_packet_delete (b=0x1f262db80) at lib/dp-packet.h:261
> #6  0x0000000000619aa0 in dpdk_copy_batch_to_mbuf (netdev=0x1f0a04a80, batch=0x7fe1b40050c0) at lib/netdev-dpdk.c:274
> #7  0x0000000000619b46 in netdev_dpdk_common_send (netdev=0x1f0a04a80, batch=0x7fe1b40050c0, stats=0x7fe1be7321f0) at
> #8  0x000000000061a0ba in netdev_dpdk_eth_send (netdev=0x1f0a04a80, qid=0, batch=0x7fe1b40050c0, concurrent_txq=true)
> #9  0x00000000004fbd10 in netdev_send (netdev=0x1f0a04a80, qid=0, batch=0x7fe1b40050c0, concurrent_txq=true) at lib/n
> #10 0x00000000004aa663 in dp_netdev_pmd_flush_output_on_port (pmd=0x7fe1be735010, p=0x7fe1b4005090) at lib/dpif-netde
> #11 0x00000000004aa85d in dp_netdev_pmd_flush_output_packets (pmd=0x7fe1be735010, force=false) at lib/dpif-netdev.c:5
> #12 0x00000000004aaaef in dp_netdev_process_rxq_port (pmd=0x7fe1be735010, rxq=0x16f3f80, port_no=3) at lib/dpif-netde
> #13 0x00000000004af17a in pmd_thread_main (f_=0x7fe1be735010) at lib/dpif-netdev.c:6958
> #14 0x000000000057da80 in ovsthread_wrapper (aux_=0x1608b30) at lib/ovs-thread.c:422
> #15 0x00007fe1d51a6ea5 in start_thread () from /lib64/libpthread.so.0
> #16 0x00007fe1d49c5b0d in clone () from /lib64/libc.so.6
> ```
> The logic in function `dp_packet_delete()` run into the wrong branch.
> 
> Then, why just our PMD need do this, and other PMDs don't?
> Generally, it's greatly dependent on the hardware.
> 
> The Netronome's Network Flow Processor 4xxx (NFP-4xxx) card is the target card of these series patches.
> Which only has one PF but has 2 physical ports, and the NFP PMD can work with up to 8 ports on the same PF device. 
> Other PMDs hardware seems all 'one PF <--> one physical port'.
> 
> For the use case of OvS, we should add the representor port of 'physical port' to the bridge, not the representor port of PF like other PMDs.
> 
> We use a two-layer poll mode architecture. (Other PMDs are simple poll mode architecture)
> In the RX direction:
> 1. When the physical port or vf receives pkts, the firmware will prepend a meta-data(indicating the input port) into the pkt.
> 2. We use the PF vNIC as a multiplexer, which keeps polling pkts from the firmware.
> 3. The PF vNIC will parse the meta-data, and enqueue the pkt into the corresponding rte_ring of the representor port of physical port or vf.
> 4. The OVS will polling pkts from the RX function of representor port, which dequeue pkts from the rte_ring.
> In the TX direction:
> 1. The OVS send the pkts from the TX functions of representor port.
> 2. The representor port will prepend a meta-data(indicating the output port) into the pkt and send the pkt to firmware through the queue 0 of PF vNIC.
> 3. The firmware will parse the meta-data, and forward the pkt to the corresponding physical port or vf.
> 
> So the OvS won't create the mempool for us and we must create it ourselves for the PF vNIC to use.
> 
> Hopefully, I explained the things clearly. Thanks.




  reply	other threads:[~2022-09-21  7:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-09-15 10:44 [PATCH v9 00/12] preparation for the rte_flow offload of nfp PMD Chaoyong He
2022-09-15 10:44 ` [PATCH v9 01/12] net/nfp: move app specific attributes to own struct Chaoyong He
2022-09-15 10:44 ` [PATCH v9 02/12] net/nfp: simplify initialization and remove dead code Chaoyong He
2022-09-15 10:44 ` [PATCH v9 03/12] net/nfp: move app specific init logic to own function Chaoyong He
2022-09-15 10:44 ` [PATCH v9 04/12] net/nfp: add initial flower firmware support Chaoyong He
2022-09-15 10:44 ` [PATCH v9 05/12] net/nfp: add flower PF setup logic Chaoyong He
2022-09-20 14:57   ` Ferruh Yigit
2022-09-21  2:50     ` Chaoyong He
2022-09-21  7:35       ` Thomas Monjalon [this message]
2022-09-21  7:47         ` Chaoyong He
2022-09-15 10:44 ` [PATCH v9 06/12] net/nfp: add flower PF related routines Chaoyong He
2022-09-15 10:44 ` [PATCH v9 07/12] net/nfp: add flower ctrl VNIC related logics Chaoyong He
2022-09-20 14:56   ` Ferruh Yigit
2022-09-21  2:02     ` Chaoyong He
2022-09-21  7:29       ` Thomas Monjalon
2022-09-21  7:42         ` Chaoyong He
2022-09-15 10:44 ` [PATCH v9 08/12] net/nfp: move common rxtx function for flower use Chaoyong He
2022-09-15 10:44 ` [PATCH v9 09/12] net/nfp: add flower ctrl VNIC rxtx logic Chaoyong He
2022-09-15 10:44 ` [PATCH v9 10/12] net/nfp: add flower representor framework Chaoyong He
2022-09-15 10:44 ` [PATCH v9 11/12] net/nfp: move rxtx function to header file Chaoyong He
2022-09-15 10:44 ` [PATCH v9 12/12] net/nfp: add flower PF rxtx logic Chaoyong He
2022-09-20 14:56 ` [PATCH v9 00/12] preparation for the rte_flow offload of nfp PMD Ferruh Yigit

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