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From: "Morten Brørup" <mb@smartsharesystems.com>
To: "Ananyev, Konstantin" <konstantin.ananyev@intel.com>,
	"Hu, Jiayu" <jiayu.hu@intel.com>,
	"Yuanhan Liu" <yuanhan.liu@linux.intel.com>,
	"Wiles, Keith" <keith.wiles@intel.com>,
	"Richardson, Bruce" <bruce.richardson@intel.com>,
	"Stephen Hemminger" <stephen@networkplumber.org>,
	"Yigit, Ferruh" <ferruh.yigit@intel.com>,
	"Liang, Cunming" <cunming.liang@intel.com>,
	"Thomas Monjalon" <thomas.monjalon@6wind.com>
Cc: <dev@dpdk.org>
Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 0/2] lib: add TCP IPv4 GRO support
Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2017 12:47:42 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <98CBD80474FA8B44BF855DF32C47DC359EAE68@smartserver.smartshare.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2601191342CEEE43887BDE71AB9772583FAD80A6@IRSMSX109.ger.corp.intel.com>

I have two points to this discussion:

GRO/LRO must be disabled by default! Truly transparent network appliances, such as classic Layer 3 routers and Layer 2 switches (and our SmartShare StraightShaper appliance), may not want to merge multiple smaller packets into one larger packet, regardless of any processing performance benefit. Also refer to Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Large_receive_offload), especially reference 9 (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=772317). And if any of you developers don't intuitively agree, just ask any old network engineer about all the mess he had to deal with "back in the days" when packet sizes were important... flaky path MTU discovery, MSS clamping for PPPoE and VPN tunnels, packet reassembly causing performance degradation and packet loss on underpowered VPN routers, etc.

We should consider librte_net a library for miscellaneous utilities, i.e. mainly stateless functions. Functions for packet merging (of multiple IP packets or actual IP fragments), which clearly requires a lot of memory and statefulness, does not belong here. This is worth noting, not only for the GRO/GSO library, but for similar future discussions. (The size of the compiled library is irrelevant - only its purpose matters.)


Med venlig hilsen / kind regards

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-03-29 10:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 141+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-03-22  9:32 Jiayu Hu
2017-03-22  9:32 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 1/2] lib: add Generic Receive Offload support for TCP IPv4 packets Jiayu Hu
2017-03-22  9:32 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 2/2] app/testpmd: provide TCP IPv4 GRO function in iofwd mode Jiayu Hu
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     [not found]   ` <20170323021502.GA114662@localhost.localdomain>
     [not found]     ` <C830A6FC-F440-4E68-AB4E-2FD502722E3F@intel.com>
     [not found]       ` <20170323062433.GA120139@localhost.localdomain>
     [not found]         ` <59AF69C657FD0841A61C55336867B5B066729E3F@IRSMSX103.ger.corp.intel.com>
     [not found]           ` <20170323102135.GA124301@localhost.localdomain>
     [not found]             ` <2601191342CEEE43887BDE71AB9772583FAD410A@IRSMSX109.ger.corp.intel.com>
2017-03-24  2:23               ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 0/2] lib: add TCP IPv4 GRO support Jiayu Hu
2017-03-24  6:18                 ` Wiles, Keith
2017-03-24  7:22                   ` Yuanhan Liu
2017-03-24  8:06                     ` Jiayu Hu
2017-03-24 11:43                       ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2017-03-24 14:37                         ` Wiles, Keith
2017-03-24 14:59                           ` Olivier Matz
2017-03-24 15:07                             ` Wiles, Keith
2017-03-28 13:40                               ` Wiles, Keith
2017-03-28 13:57                                 ` Hu, Jiayu
2017-03-28 16:06                                   ` Wiles, Keith
2017-03-29 10:47                         ` Morten Brørup [this message]
2017-03-29 12:12                           ` Wiles, Keith
2017-04-04 12:31 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 0/3] support GRO in DPDK Jiayu Hu
2017-04-04 12:31   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 1/3] lib: add Generic Receive Offload API framework Jiayu Hu
2017-04-04 12:31   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 2/3] lib/gro: add TCP/IPv4 GRO support Jiayu Hu
2017-04-04 12:31   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 3/3] app/testpmd: enable GRO feature Jiayu Hu
2017-04-24  8:09   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 0/3] support GRO in DPDK Jiayu Hu
2017-04-24  8:09     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 1/3] lib: add Generic Receive Offload API framework Jiayu Hu
2017-05-22  9:19       ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2017-05-23 10:31         ` Jiayu Hu
2017-05-24 12:38           ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2017-05-26  7:26             ` Jiayu Hu
2017-05-26 23:10               ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2017-05-27  3:41                 ` Jiayu Hu
2017-05-27 11:12                   ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2017-05-27 14:09                     ` Jiayu Hu
2017-05-27 16:51                       ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2017-05-29 10:22                         ` Hu, Jiayu
2017-05-29 12:18                           ` Bruce Richardson
2017-05-30 14:10                             ` Hu, Jiayu
2017-05-29 12:51                           ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2017-05-30  5:29                             ` Hu, Jiayu
2017-05-30 11:56                               ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2017-04-24  8:09     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 2/3] lib/gro: add TCP/IPv4 GRO support Jiayu Hu
2017-04-24  8:09     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 3/3] app/testpmd: enable GRO feature Jiayu Hu
2017-06-07  9:24       ` Wu, Jingjing
2017-06-07 11:08     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 0/3] Support TCP/IPv4 GRO in DPDK Jiayu Hu
2017-06-07 11:08       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 1/3] lib: add Generic Receive Offload API framework Jiayu Hu
2017-06-07 11:08       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 2/3] lib/gro: add TCP/IPv4 GRO support Jiayu Hu
2017-06-07 11:08       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 3/3] app/testpmd: enable TCP/IPv4 GRO Jiayu Hu
2017-06-18  7:21       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 0/3] Support TCP/IPv4 GRO in DPDK Jiayu Hu
2017-06-18  7:21         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 1/3] lib: add Generic Receive Offload API framework Jiayu Hu
2017-06-19  4:03           ` Tiwei Bie
2017-06-19  5:16             ` Jiayu Hu
2017-06-19 15:43           ` Tan, Jianfeng
2017-06-19 15:55           ` Stephen Hemminger
2017-06-20  1:48             ` Jiayu Hu
2017-06-18  7:21         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 2/3] lib/gro: add TCP/IPv4 GRO support Jiayu Hu
2017-06-19 15:43           ` Tan, Jianfeng
2017-06-20  3:22             ` Jiayu Hu
2017-06-20 15:15               ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2017-06-20 16:16                 ` Jiayu Hu
2017-06-20 15:21               ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2017-06-20 23:30               ` Tan, Jianfeng
2017-06-20 23:55                 ` Stephen Hemminger
2017-06-22  7:39                 ` Jiayu Hu
2017-06-22  8:18             ` Jiayu Hu
2017-06-22  9:35               ` Tan, Jianfeng
2017-06-22 13:55                 ` Jiayu Hu
2017-06-18  7:21         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 3/3] app/testpmd: enable TCP/IPv4 GRO Jiayu Hu
2017-06-19  1:24           ` Yao, Lei A
2017-06-19  2:27           ` Wu, Jingjing
2017-06-19  3:22             ` Jiayu Hu
2017-06-19  1:39         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 0/3] Support TCP/IPv4 GRO in DPDK Tan, Jianfeng
2017-06-19  3:07           ` Jiayu Hu
2017-06-19  5:12             ` Jiayu Hu
2017-06-23 14:43         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 " Jiayu Hu
2017-06-23 14:43           ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 1/3] lib: add Generic Receive Offload API framework Jiayu Hu
2017-06-25 16:53             ` Tan, Jianfeng
2017-06-23 14:43           ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 2/3] lib/gro: add TCP/IPv4 GRO support Jiayu Hu
2017-06-25 16:53             ` Tan, Jianfeng
2017-06-26  1:58               ` Jiayu Hu
2017-06-23 14:43           ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 3/3] app/testpmd: enable TCP/IPv4 GRO Jiayu Hu
2017-06-24  8:01             ` Yao, Lei A
2017-06-25 16:03           ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 0/3] Support TCP/IPv4 GRO in DPDK Tan, Jianfeng
2017-06-26  1:35             ` Jiayu Hu
2017-06-26  6:43           ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v7 " Jiayu Hu
2017-06-26  6:43             ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v7 1/3] lib: add Generic Receive Offload API framework Jiayu Hu
2017-06-27 23:42               ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2017-06-28  2:17                 ` Jiayu Hu
2017-06-28 17:41                   ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2017-06-29  1:19                     ` Jiayu Hu
2017-06-26  6:43             ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v7 2/3] lib/gro: add TCP/IPv4 GRO support Jiayu Hu
2017-06-28 23:56               ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2017-06-29  2:26                 ` Jiayu Hu
2017-06-30 12:07                   ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2017-06-30 15:40                     ` Hu, Jiayu
2017-06-26  6:43             ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v7 3/3] app/testpmd: enable TCP/IPv4 GRO Jiayu Hu
2017-06-29 10:58             ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v8 0/3] Support TCP/IPv4 GRO in DPDK Jiayu Hu
2017-06-29 10:58               ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v8 1/3] lib: add Generic Receive Offload API framework Jiayu Hu
2017-06-29 10:58               ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v8 2/3] lib/gro: add TCP/IPv4 GRO support Jiayu Hu
2017-06-29 17:51                 ` Stephen Hemminger
2017-06-30  2:07                   ` Jiayu Hu
2017-06-29 10:59               ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v8 3/3] app/testpmd: enable TCP/IPv4 GRO Jiayu Hu
2017-06-30  2:26                 ` Wu, Jingjing
2017-06-30  6:53               ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v9 0/3] Support TCP/IPv4 GRO in DPDK Jiayu Hu
2017-06-30  6:53                 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v9 1/3] lib: add Generic Receive Offload API framework Jiayu Hu
2017-06-30  6:53                 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v9 2/3] lib/gro: add TCP/IPv4 GRO support Jiayu Hu
2017-06-30  6:53                 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v9 3/3] app/testpmd: enable TCP/IPv4 GRO Jiayu Hu
2017-07-01 11:08                 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v10 0/3] Support TCP/IPv4 GRO in DPDK Jiayu Hu
2017-07-01 11:08                   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v10 1/3] lib: add Generic Receive Offload API framework Jiayu Hu
2017-07-02 10:19                     ` Tan, Jianfeng
2017-07-03  5:56                       ` Hu, Jiayu
2017-07-04  8:11                         ` Yuanhan Liu
2017-07-04  8:37                     ` Yuanhan Liu
2017-07-04 16:01                       ` Hu, Jiayu
2017-07-01 11:08                   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v10 2/3] lib/gro: add TCP/IPv4 GRO support Jiayu Hu
2017-07-02 10:19                     ` Tan, Jianfeng
2017-07-03  5:13                       ` Hu, Jiayu
2017-07-04  9:03                     ` Yuanhan Liu
2017-07-04 16:03                       ` Hu, Jiayu
2017-07-01 11:08                   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v10 3/3] app/testpmd: enable TCP/IPv4 GRO Jiayu Hu
2017-07-05  4:08                   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v11 0/3] Support TCP/IPv4 GRO in DPDK Jiayu Hu
2017-07-05  4:08                     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v11 1/3] lib: add Generic Receive Offload API framework Jiayu Hu
2017-07-07  6:55                       ` Tan, Jianfeng
2017-07-07  9:19                         ` Tan, Jianfeng
2017-07-05  4:08                     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v11 2/3] lib/gro: add TCP/IPv4 GRO support Jiayu Hu
2017-07-07  6:55                       ` Tan, Jianfeng
2017-07-05  4:08                     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v11 3/3] app/testpmd: enable TCP/IPv4 GRO Jiayu Hu
2017-07-07 10:39                     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v12 0/3] Support TCP/IPv4 GRO in DPDK Jiayu Hu
2017-07-07 10:39                       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v12 1/3] lib: add Generic Receive Offload API framework Jiayu Hu
2017-07-08 16:37                         ` Tan, Jianfeng
2017-07-07 10:39                       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v12 2/3] lib/gro: add TCP/IPv4 GRO support Jiayu Hu
2017-07-08 16:37                         ` Tan, Jianfeng
2017-07-07 10:39                       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v12 3/3] app/testpmd: enable TCP/IPv4 GRO Jiayu Hu
2017-07-09  1:13                       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v13 0/3] Support TCP/IPv4 GRO in DPDK Jiayu Hu
2017-07-09  1:13                         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v13 1/3] lib: add Generic Receive Offload API framework Jiayu Hu
2017-07-09  1:13                         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v13 2/3] lib/gro: add TCP/IPv4 GRO support Jiayu Hu
2017-07-09  1:13                         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v13 3/3] app/testpmd: enable TCP/IPv4 GRO Jiayu Hu
2017-07-09  5:46                         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v14 0/3] Support TCP/IPv4 GRO in DPDK Jiayu Hu
2017-07-09  5:46                           ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v14 1/3] lib: add Generic Receive Offload API framework Jiayu Hu
2017-07-09  5:46                           ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v14 2/3] lib/gro: add TCP/IPv4 GRO support Jiayu Hu
2017-07-09  5:46                           ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v14 3/3] app/testpmd: enable TCP/IPv4 GRO Jiayu Hu
2017-07-09  7:59                             ` Yao, Lei A
2017-07-09 16:14                           ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v14 0/3] Support TCP/IPv4 GRO in DPDK Thomas Monjalon
2017-07-10  2:21                             ` Hu, Jiayu
2017-07-10  7:03                               ` Thomas Monjalon

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