From: "Morten Brørup" <mb@smartsharesystems.com>
To: "Spike Du" <spiked@nvidia.com>,
"NBU-Contact-Thomas Monjalon (EXTERNAL)" <thomas@monjalon.net>
Cc: "Matan Azrad" <matan@nvidia.com>,
"Slava Ovsiienko" <viacheslavo@nvidia.com>,
"Ori Kam" <orika@nvidia.com>, <dev@dpdk.org>,
"Raslan Darawsheh" <rasland@nvidia.com>,
<stephen@networkplumber.org>, <andrew.rybchenko@oktetlabs.ru>,
<ferruh.yigit@amd.com>, <david.marchand@redhat.com>
Subject: RE: [PATCH v3 0/7] introduce per-queue limit watermark and host shaper
Date: Wed, 25 May 2022 15:40:18 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <98CBD80474FA8B44BF855DF32C47DC35D870B1@smartserver.smartshare.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <MN2PR12MB3647C02B3F019AFC9B1B14ACA8D69@MN2PR12MB3647.namprd12.prod.outlook.com>
> From: Spike Du [mailto:spiked@nvidia.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, 25 May 2022 15.15
>
> > From: Morten Brørup <mb@smartsharesystems.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2022 3:00 AM
> >
> > > From: Thomas Monjalon [mailto:thomas@monjalon.net]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, 24 May 2022 17.59
> > >
> > > +Cc people involved in previous versions
> > >
> > > 24/05/2022 17:20, Spike Du:
> > > > LWM(limit watermark) is per RX queue attribute, when RX queue
> > > fullness reach the LWM limit, HW sends an event to dpdk
> application.
> > > > Host shaper can configure shaper rate and lwm-triggered for a
> host
> > > port.
> >
> > Please ignore this comment, it is not important, but I had to get it
> out of my
> > system: I assume that the "LWM" name is from the NIC datasheet;
> otherwise
> > I would probably prefer something with "threshold"... LWM is easily
> > confused with "low water mark", which is the opposite of what the LWM
> > does. Names are always open for discussion, so I won't object to it.
> >
> > > > The shaper limits the rate of traffic from host port to wire
> port.
> >
> > From host to wire? It is RX, so you must mean from wire to host.
>
> The host shaper is quite private to Nvidia's BlueField 2 NIC. The NIC
> is inserted
> In a server which we call it host-system, and the NIC has an embedded
> Arm-system
> Which does the forwarding.
> The traffic flows from host-system to wire like this:
> Host-system generates traffic, send it to Arm-system, Arm sends it to
> physical/wire port.
> So the RX happens between host-system and Arm-system, and the traffic
> is host to wire.
> The shaper also works in a special way: you configure it on Arm-system,
> but it takes effect
> On host-sysmem's TX side.
>
> >
> > > > If lwm-triggered is enabled, a 100Mbps shaper is enabled
> > > automatically when one of the host port's Rx queues receives LWM
> event.
> > > >
> > > > These two features can combine to control traffic from host port
> to
> > > wire port.
> >
> > Again, you mean from wire to host?
>
> Pls see above.
>
> >
> > > > The work flow is configure LWM to RX queue and enable lwm-
> triggered
> > > flag in host shaper, after receiving LWM event, delay a while until
> RX
> > > queue is empty , then disable the shaper. We recycle this work flow
> to
> > > reduce RX queue drops.
> >
> > You delay while RX queue gets drained by some other threads, I
> assume.
>
> The PMD thread drains the Rx queue, the PMD receiving as normal, as
> the PMD
> Implementation uses rte interrupt thread to handle LWM event.
>
Thank you for the explanation, Spike. It really clarifies a lot!
If this patch is intended for DPDK running on the host-system, then the LWM attribute is associated with a TX queue, not an RX queue. The packets are egressing from the host-system, so TX from the host-system's perspective.
Otherwise, if this patch is for DPDK running on the embedded ARM-system, it should be highlighted somewhere.
> >
> > Surely, the excess packets must be dropped somewhere, e.g. by the
> shaper?
I guess the shaper doesn't have to drop any packets, but the host-system will simply be unable to put more packets into the queue if it runs full.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-05-25 13:40 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 131+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-04-01 3:22 [RFC 0/6] net/mlx5: introduce " Spike Du
2022-04-01 3:22 ` [RFC 1/6] net/mlx5: add LWM support for Rxq Spike Du
2022-05-06 3:56 ` [RFC v1 0/7] net/mlx5: introduce limit watermark and host shaper Spike Du
2022-05-06 3:56 ` [RFC v1 1/7] net/mlx5: add LWM support for Rxq Spike Du
2022-05-06 3:56 ` [RFC v1 2/7] common/mlx5: share interrupt management Spike Du
2022-05-06 3:56 ` [RFC v1 3/7] ethdev: introduce Rx queue based limit watermark Spike Du
2022-05-19 9:37 ` Andrew Rybchenko
2022-05-06 3:56 ` [RFC v1 4/7] net/mlx5: add LWM event handling support Spike Du
2022-05-06 3:56 ` [RFC v1 5/7] net/mlx5: support Rx queue based limit watermark Spike Du
2022-05-06 3:56 ` [RFC v1 6/7] net/mlx5: add private API to config host port shaper Spike Du
2022-05-06 3:56 ` [RFC v1 7/7] app/testpmd: add LWM and Host Shaper command Spike Du
2022-05-22 5:58 ` [RFC v2 0/7] introduce per-queue limit watermark and host shaper Spike Du
2022-05-22 5:58 ` [RFC v2 1/7] net/mlx5: add LWM support for Rxq Spike Du
2022-05-22 5:58 ` [RFC v2 2/7] common/mlx5: share interrupt management Spike Du
2022-05-22 5:58 ` [RFC v2 3/7] ethdev: introduce Rx queue based limit watermark Spike Du
2022-05-22 15:23 ` Stephen Hemminger
2022-05-23 3:01 ` Spike Du
2022-05-23 21:45 ` Thomas Monjalon
2022-05-24 2:50 ` Spike Du
2022-05-24 8:18 ` Thomas Monjalon
2022-05-25 12:59 ` Andrew Rybchenko
2022-05-25 13:58 ` Thomas Monjalon
2022-05-25 14:23 ` Andrew Rybchenko
2022-05-23 22:54 ` Stephen Hemminger
2022-05-24 3:46 ` Spike Du
2022-05-22 15:24 ` Stephen Hemminger
2022-05-23 2:18 ` Spike Du
2022-05-23 6:07 ` Morten Brørup
2022-05-23 10:58 ` Thomas Monjalon
2022-05-23 14:10 ` Spike Du
2022-05-23 14:39 ` Thomas Monjalon
2022-05-24 6:35 ` Andrew Rybchenko
2022-05-24 9:40 ` Morten Brørup
2022-05-22 5:58 ` [RFC v2 4/7] net/mlx5: add LWM event handling support Spike Du
2022-05-22 5:58 ` [RFC v2 5/7] net/mlx5: support Rx queue based limit watermark Spike Du
2022-05-22 5:58 ` [RFC v2 6/7] net/mlx5: add private API to config host port shaper Spike Du
2022-05-22 5:59 ` [RFC v2 7/7] app/testpmd: add LWM and Host Shaper command Spike Du
2022-05-24 15:20 ` [PATCH v3 0/7] introduce per-queue limit watermark and host shaper Spike Du
2022-05-24 15:20 ` [PATCH v3 1/7] net/mlx5: add LWM support for Rxq Spike Du
2022-05-24 15:20 ` [PATCH v3 2/7] common/mlx5: share interrupt management Spike Du
2022-05-24 15:20 ` [PATCH v3 3/7] ethdev: introduce Rx queue based limit watermark Spike Du
2022-05-24 15:20 ` [PATCH v3 4/7] net/mlx5: add LWM event handling support Spike Du
2022-05-24 15:20 ` [PATCH v3 5/7] net/mlx5: support Rx queue based limit watermark Spike Du
2022-05-24 15:20 ` [PATCH v3 6/7] net/mlx5: add private API to config host port shaper Spike Du
2022-05-24 15:20 ` [PATCH v3 7/7] app/testpmd: add LWM and Host Shaper command Spike Du
2022-05-24 15:59 ` [PATCH v3 0/7] introduce per-queue limit watermark and host shaper Thomas Monjalon
2022-05-24 19:00 ` Morten Brørup
2022-05-24 19:22 ` Thomas Monjalon
2022-05-25 14:11 ` Andrew Rybchenko
2022-05-25 13:14 ` Spike Du
2022-05-25 13:40 ` Morten Brørup [this message]
2022-05-25 13:59 ` Spike Du
2022-05-25 14:16 ` Morten Brørup
2022-05-25 14:30 ` Andrew Rybchenko
2022-06-03 12:48 ` [PATCH v4 0/7] introduce per-queue fill threshold " Spike Du
2022-06-03 12:48 ` [PATCH v4 1/7] net/mlx5: add LWM support for Rxq Spike Du
2022-06-03 12:48 ` [PATCH v4 2/7] common/mlx5: share interrupt management Spike Du
2022-06-03 14:30 ` Ray Kinsella
2022-06-03 12:48 ` [PATCH v4 3/7] ethdev: introduce Rx queue based fill threshold Spike Du
2022-06-03 14:30 ` Ray Kinsella
2022-06-04 12:46 ` Andrew Rybchenko
2022-06-06 13:16 ` Spike Du
2022-06-06 17:15 ` Andrew Rybchenko
2022-06-06 21:30 ` Thomas Monjalon
2022-06-07 8:02 ` Andrew Rybchenko
2022-06-07 6:00 ` Spike Du
2022-06-06 15:49 ` Stephen Hemminger
2022-06-03 12:48 ` [PATCH v4 4/7] net/mlx5: add LWM event handling support Spike Du
2022-06-03 12:48 ` [PATCH v4 5/7] net/mlx5: support Rx queue based fill threshold Spike Du
2022-06-03 12:48 ` [PATCH v4 6/7] net/mlx5: add private API to config host port shaper Spike Du
2022-06-03 14:55 ` Ray Kinsella
2022-06-03 12:48 ` [PATCH v4 7/7] app/testpmd: add Host Shaper command Spike Du
2022-06-07 12:59 ` [PATCH v5 0/7] introduce per-queue available descriptor threshold and host shaper Spike Du
2022-06-07 12:59 ` [PATCH v5 1/7] net/mlx5: add LWM support for Rxq Spike Du
2022-06-08 20:10 ` Matan Azrad
2022-06-07 12:59 ` [PATCH v5 2/7] common/mlx5: share interrupt management Spike Du
2022-06-07 12:59 ` [PATCH v5 3/7] ethdev: introduce Rx queue based available descriptor threshold Spike Du
2022-06-07 12:59 ` [PATCH v5 4/7] net/mlx5: add LWM event handling support Spike Du
2022-06-07 12:59 ` [PATCH v5 5/7] net/mlx5: support Rx queue based available descriptor threshold Spike Du
2022-06-07 12:59 ` [PATCH v5 6/7] net/mlx5: add private API to config host port shaper Spike Du
2022-06-07 12:59 ` [PATCH v5 7/7] app/testpmd: add Host Shaper command Spike Du
2022-06-09 7:55 ` Andrew Rybchenko
2022-06-10 2:22 ` Spike Du
2022-06-13 2:50 ` [PATCH v6] " Spike Du
2022-06-13 2:50 ` Spike Du
2022-06-14 9:43 ` Singh, Aman Deep
2022-06-14 9:54 ` Spike Du
2022-06-14 12:01 ` [PATCH v7] " Spike Du
2022-06-14 12:01 ` Spike Du
2022-06-15 7:51 ` Matan Azrad
2022-06-15 11:08 ` Thomas Monjalon
2022-06-15 12:58 ` [PATCH v8 0/6] introduce per-queue available descriptor threshold and host shaper Spike Du
2022-06-15 12:58 ` [PATCH v8 1/6] net/mlx5: add LWM support for Rxq Spike Du
2022-06-15 14:43 ` [PATCH v9 0/6] introduce per-queue available descriptor threshold and host shaper Spike Du
2022-06-15 14:43 ` [PATCH v9 1/6] net/mlx5: add LWM support for Rxq Spike Du
2022-06-16 8:41 ` [PATCH v10 0/6] introduce per-queue available descriptor threshold and host shaper Spike Du
2022-06-16 8:41 ` [PATCH v10 1/6] net/mlx5: add LWM support for Rxq Spike Du
2022-06-16 8:41 ` [PATCH v10 2/6] common/mlx5: share interrupt management Spike Du
2022-06-23 16:05 ` Ray Kinsella
2022-06-16 8:41 ` [PATCH v10 3/6] net/mlx5: add LWM event handling support Spike Du
2022-06-16 8:41 ` [PATCH v10 4/6] net/mlx5: support Rx queue based available descriptor threshold Spike Du
2022-06-16 8:41 ` [PATCH v10 5/6] net/mlx5: add private API to config host port shaper Spike Du
2022-06-16 8:41 ` [PATCH v10 6/6] app/testpmd: add Host Shaper command Spike Du
2022-06-19 8:14 ` [PATCH v10 0/6] introduce per-queue available descriptor threshold and host shaper Raslan Darawsheh
2022-06-15 14:43 ` [PATCH v9 2/6] common/mlx5: share interrupt management Spike Du
2022-06-15 14:43 ` [PATCH v9 3/6] net/mlx5: add LWM event handling support Spike Du
2022-06-15 14:43 ` [PATCH v9 4/6] net/mlx5: support Rx queue based available descriptor threshold Spike Du
2022-06-15 14:43 ` [PATCH v9 5/6] net/mlx5: add private API to config host port shaper Spike Du
2022-06-15 14:43 ` [PATCH v9 6/6] app/testpmd: add Host Shaper command Spike Du
2022-06-15 12:58 ` [PATCH v8 2/6] common/mlx5: share interrupt management Spike Du
2022-06-15 12:58 ` [PATCH v8 3/6] net/mlx5: add LWM event handling support Spike Du
2022-06-15 12:58 ` [PATCH v8 4/6] net/mlx5: support Rx queue based available descriptor threshold Spike Du
2022-06-15 12:58 ` [PATCH v8 5/6] net/mlx5: add private API to config host port shaper Spike Du
2022-06-15 12:58 ` [PATCH v8 6/6] app/testpmd: add Host Shaper command Spike Du
2022-06-08 9:43 ` [PATCH v5 0/7] introduce per-queue available descriptor threshold and host shaper Andrew Rybchenko
2022-06-08 16:35 ` [PATCH v6] ethdev: introduce available Rx descriptors threshold Andrew Rybchenko
2022-06-08 17:22 ` Thomas Monjalon
2022-06-08 17:46 ` Thomas Monjalon
2022-06-09 0:17 ` fengchengwen
2022-06-09 7:05 ` Thomas Monjalon
2022-06-10 0:01 ` fengchengwen
2022-04-01 3:22 ` [RFC 2/6] common/mlx5: share interrupt management Spike Du
2022-04-01 3:22 ` [RFC 3/6] net/mlx5: add LWM event handling support Spike Du
2022-04-01 3:22 ` [RFC 4/6] net/mlx5: add private API to configure Rxq LWM Spike Du
2022-04-01 3:22 ` [RFC 5/6] net/mlx5: add private API to config host port shaper Spike Du
2022-04-01 3:22 ` [RFC 6/6] app/testpmd: add LWM and Host Shaper command Spike Du
2022-04-05 8:58 ` [RFC 0/6] net/mlx5: introduce limit watermark and host shaper Jerin Jacob
2022-04-26 2:42 ` Spike Du
2022-05-01 12:50 ` Jerin Jacob
2022-05-02 3:58 ` Spike Du
2022-04-29 5:48 ` Spike Du
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