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From: Ferruh Yigit <ferruh.yigit@amd.com>
To: Bruce Richardson <bruce.richardson@intel.com>
Cc: dev@dpdk.org, techboard@dpdk.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] build: announce requirement for C11
Date: Wed, 3 May 2023 17:51:18 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <9d81667d-df78-0b6f-cb0a-62e9854195a3@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZFKEdMP188QoJWYh@bricha3-MOBL.ger.corp.intel.com>

On 5/3/2023 4:57 PM, Bruce Richardson wrote:
> On Wed, May 03, 2023 at 04:39:14PM +0100, Ferruh Yigit wrote:
>> On 5/3/2023 4:14 PM, Bruce Richardson wrote:
>>> Add a deprecation notice informing users that we will require a C11
>>> compiler from 23.11 release onwards. This requirement was agreed by
>>> technical board to enable use of newer C language features, e.g.
>>> standard atomics. [1]
>>>
>>> [1] http://inbox.dpdk.org/dev/DBAPR08MB58148CEC3E1454E8848A938998AB9@DBAPR08MB5814.eurprd08.prod.outlook.com/
>>>
>>> Signed-off-by: Bruce Richardson <bruce.richardson@intel.com>
>>> ---
>>>  doc/guides/rel_notes/deprecation.rst | 6 ++++++
>>>  1 file changed, 6 insertions(+)
>>>
>>> diff --git a/doc/guides/rel_notes/deprecation.rst b/doc/guides/rel_notes/deprecation.rst
>>> index dcc1ca1696..9a391d2c49 100644
>>> --- a/doc/guides/rel_notes/deprecation.rst
>>> +++ b/doc/guides/rel_notes/deprecation.rst
>>> @@ -11,6 +11,12 @@ here.
>>>  Deprecation Notices
>>>  -------------------
>>>  
>>> +* C Compiler: From DPDK 23.11 onwards,
>>> +  building DPDK will require a C compiler which supports the C11 standard, or later.
>>> +  Please note:
>>> +     - C11 is supported from GCC version 5 onwards, and is the default language version in that release
>>> +     - C11 is the default compilation mode in Clang from version 3.6
>>> +
>>>  * kvargs: The function ``rte_kvargs_process`` will get a new parameter
>>>    for returning key match count. It will ease handling of no-match case.
>>>  
>>
>> This only applies to DPDK internals, right?
>> Application linked with DPDK library won't have this requirement,
>> meaning DPDK public headers won't rely on C99 and C11 features.
>>
> No, AFAIK, that is not correct. Originally I had thought that that would be
> the case - hence the special-case tests for the headers in my previous C99
> patch - but the consensus at the DPDK techboard was that we won't require
> all headers to remain C89 compatible.
> 

Ah, thanks for clarification. The previous patch made me think we are
keeping headers C89 compatible, I missed the final decision.

> Originally, I was unsure about this, but now I agree with this position, on
> the basis that since GCC 5, unless you have been explicitly requesting an
> older standard, the compiler is using C11 rules. Therefore, everyone using
> these later GCC versions is already using C11+.
> 

Not just compiler version, application enforcing an old standard also
may cause trouble.

But I can see this is simpler from DPDK perspective.


  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-05-03 16:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-05-03 15:14 Bruce Richardson
2023-05-03 15:35 ` Tyler Retzlaff
2023-05-03 15:37   ` Bruce Richardson
2023-05-03 15:39 ` Ferruh Yigit
2023-05-03 15:45   ` Tyler Retzlaff
2023-05-03 15:57   ` Bruce Richardson
2023-05-03 16:07     ` Tyler Retzlaff
2023-05-03 16:51     ` Ferruh Yigit [this message]
2023-05-03 17:30 ` [PATCH v2] " Bruce Richardson
2023-05-04  7:50   ` Mattias Rönnblom
2023-05-04  8:48     ` Bruce Richardson
2023-05-04 15:24       ` Tyler Retzlaff
2023-05-03 21:34 ` [PATCH] " Morten Brørup
2023-05-17 17:34 ` [PATCH v3] " Bruce Richardson
2023-05-19 12:19   ` Aaron Conole
2023-05-19 20:01     ` Tyler Retzlaff
2023-07-20  8:22   ` Bruce Richardson
2023-07-20 10:56     ` Jerin Jacob
2023-07-28  9:34       ` Thomas Monjalon

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