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From: Honnappa Nagarahalli <Honnappa.Nagarahalli@arm.com>
To: "Gavin Hu (Arm Technology China)" <Gavin.Hu@arm.com>,
	Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org>
Cc: "dev@dpdk.org" <dev@dpdk.org>,
	"thomas@monjalon.net" <thomas@monjalon.net>,
	"olivier.matz@6wind.com" <olivier.matz@6wind.com>,
	"chaozhu@linux.vnet.ibm.com" <chaozhu@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	"bruce.richardson@intel.com" <bruce.richardson@intel.com>,
	"konstantin.ananyev@intel.com" <konstantin.ananyev@intel.com>,
	"jerin.jacob@caviumnetworks.com" <jerin.jacob@caviumnetworks.com>,
	"stable@dpdk.org" <stable@dpdk.org>, nd <nd@arm.com>
Subject: Re: [dpdk-stable] [PATCH v4 2/2] ring: move the atomic load of head above the loop
Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2018 04:30:36 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <AM6PR08MB3672EB57F02379CD5649C6C998CF0@AM6PR08MB3672.eurprd08.prod.outlook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <VI1PR08MB3167308B62BB96B9F99A93B08FCF0@VI1PR08MB3167.eurprd08.prod.outlook.com>

<Fixing this to make the reply inline, making email plain text>

 
On Thu, 1 Nov 2018 17:53:51 +0800 
Gavin Hu <mailto:gavin.hu@arm.com> wrote: 

> +* **Updated the ring library with C11 memory model.** 
> + 
> + Updated the ring library with C11 memory model including the following changes: 
> + 
> + * Synchronize the load and store of the tail 
> + * Move the atomic load of head above the loop 
> + 

Does this really need to be in the release notes? Is it a user visible change 
or just an internal/optimization and fix. 

[Gavin] There is no api changes, but this is a significant change as ring is fundamental and widely used, it decreases latency by 25% in our tests, it may do even better for cases with more contending producers/consumers or deeper depth of rings.

[Honnappa] I agree with Stephen. Release notes should be written from DPDK user perspective. In the rte_ring case, the user has the option of choosing between c11 and non-c11 algorithms. Performance would be one of the criteria to choose between these 2 algorithms. IMO, it probably makes sense to indicate that the performance of c11 based algorithm has been improved. However, I do not know what DPDK has followed historically regarding performance optimizations. I would prefer to follow whatever has been followed so far.
I do not think that we need to document the details of the internal changes since it does not help the user make a decision.

  reply	other threads:[~2018-11-02  4:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 125+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <1541157688-40012-1-git-send-email-gavin.hu@arm.com>
     [not found] ` <1541066031-29125-1-git-send-email-gavin.hu@arm.com>
     [not found]   ` <1540981587-88590-1-git-send-email-gavin.hu@arm.com>
     [not found]     ` <1540956945-211373-1-git-send-email-gavin.hu@arm.com>
2018-10-31 10:26       ` [dpdk-stable] [PATCH v3 1/2] ring: synchronize the load and store of the tail Gavin Hu
2018-10-31 22:07         ` [dpdk-stable] [dpdk-dev] " Stephen Hemminger
2018-11-01  9:56           ` Gavin Hu (Arm Technology China)
2018-10-31 10:26       ` [dpdk-stable] [PATCH v3 2/2] ring: move the atomic load of head above the loop Gavin Hu
2018-11-01  9:53     ` [dpdk-stable] [PATCH v4 1/2] ring: synchronize the load and store of the tail Gavin Hu
2018-11-01  9:53     ` [dpdk-stable] [PATCH v4 2/2] ring: move the atomic load of head above the loop Gavin Hu
2018-11-01 17:26       ` Stephen Hemminger
2018-11-02  0:53         ` Gavin Hu (Arm Technology China)
2018-11-02  4:30           ` Honnappa Nagarahalli [this message]
2018-11-02  7:15             ` Gavin Hu (Arm Technology China)
2018-11-02  9:36               ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-11-02 11:23                 ` Gavin Hu (Arm Technology China)
2018-11-02 11:21   ` [dpdk-stable] [PATCH v5 1/2] ring: synchronize the load and store of the tail Gavin Hu
2018-11-05  9:30     ` Olivier Matz
2018-11-02 11:21   ` [dpdk-stable] [PATCH v5 2/2] ring: move the atomic load of head above the loop Gavin Hu
2018-11-02 11:43     ` Bruce Richardson
2018-11-03  1:19       ` Gavin Hu (Arm Technology China)
2018-11-03  9:34         ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2018-11-05 13:17           ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-11-05 13:41             ` Jerin Jacob
2018-11-05  9:44         ` Olivier Matz
2018-11-05 13:36           ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-08-06  1:18 [dpdk-stable] [PATCH] ring: fix c11 memory ordering issue Gavin Hu
2018-08-06  9:19 ` [dpdk-stable] [dpdk-dev] " Thomas Monjalon
2018-08-08  1:39   ` Gavin Hu
2018-08-07  3:19 ` [dpdk-stable] [PATCH v2] " Gavin Hu
2018-08-07  5:56   ` He, Jia
2018-08-07  7:56     ` Gavin Hu
2018-08-08  3:07       ` Jerin Jacob
2018-08-08  7:23         ` Thomas Monjalon
     [not found]   ` <20180917074735.28161-1-gavin.hu@arm.com>
2018-09-17  7:47     ` [dpdk-stable] [PATCH v3 3/3] doc: add cross compile part for sample applications Gavin Hu
2018-09-17  9:48       ` Jerin Jacob
2018-09-17 10:28         ` Gavin Hu (Arm Technology China)
2018-09-17 10:34           ` Jerin Jacob
2018-09-17 10:55             ` Gavin Hu (Arm Technology China)
2018-09-17 10:49       ` [dpdk-stable] [PATCH v4] " Gavin Hu
2018-09-17 10:53         ` [dpdk-stable] [PATCH v5] " Gavin Hu
2018-09-18 11:00           ` Jerin Jacob
2018-09-19  0:33           ` [dpdk-stable] [PATCH v6] " Gavin Hu
2018-09-17  8:11     ` [dpdk-stable] [PATCH v4 1/4] bus/fslmc: fix undefined reference of memsegs Gavin Hu
2018-09-17  8:11       ` [dpdk-stable] [PATCH v4 2/4] ring: read tail using atomic load Gavin Hu
2018-09-20  6:41         ` Jerin Jacob
2018-09-25  9:26           ` Gavin Hu (Arm Technology China)
2018-09-17  8:11       ` [dpdk-stable] [PATCH v4 3/4] ring: synchronize the load and store of the tail Gavin Hu
2018-09-17  8:11       ` [dpdk-stable] [PATCH v4 4/4] ring: move the atomic load of head above the loop Gavin Hu
2018-10-27 14:21         ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-09-17  8:17   ` [dpdk-stable] [PATCH v3 1/3] ring: read tail using atomic load Gavin Hu
2018-09-17  8:17     ` [dpdk-stable] [PATCH v3 2/3] ring: synchronize the load and store of the tail Gavin Hu
2018-09-26  9:29       ` Gavin Hu (Arm Technology China)
2018-09-26  9:59         ` Justin He
2018-09-29 10:57       ` Jerin Jacob
2018-10-17  6:29       ` [dpdk-stable] [PATCH 1/2] " Gavin Hu
2018-10-17  6:29         ` [dpdk-stable] [PATCH 2/2] ring: move the atomic load of head above the loop Gavin Hu
2018-10-17  6:35         ` [dpdk-stable] [PATCH 1/2] ring: synchronize the load and store of the tail Gavin Hu (Arm Technology China)
2018-10-27 14:39           ` [dpdk-stable] [dpdk-dev] " Thomas Monjalon
2018-10-27 15:00             ` Jerin Jacob
2018-10-27 15:13               ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-10-27 15:34                 ` Jerin Jacob
2018-10-27 15:48                   ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-10-29  2:51                   ` Gavin Hu (Arm Technology China)
2018-10-29  2:57                   ` Gavin Hu (Arm Technology China)
2018-10-29 10:16                     ` Jerin Jacob
2018-10-29 10:47                       ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-10-29 11:10                         ` Jerin Jacob
2018-11-03 20:12                 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2018-11-05 21:51                   ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2018-11-06 11:03                     ` Mattias Rönnblom
     [not found]         ` <1540955698-209159-1-git-send-email-gavin.hu@arm.com>
2018-10-31  3:14           ` [dpdk-stable] [PATCH v2 " Gavin Hu
2018-10-31  3:14           ` [dpdk-stable] [PATCH v2 2/2] ring: move the atomic load of head above the loop Gavin Hu
2018-10-31  3:35         ` [dpdk-stable] [PATCH v2 1/2] ring: synchronize the load and store of the tail Gavin Hu
2018-10-31  3:35         ` [dpdk-stable] [PATCH v2 2/2] ring: move the atomic load of head above the loop Gavin Hu
2018-10-31  9:36           ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-10-31 10:27             ` Gavin Hu (Arm Technology China)
2018-09-17  8:17     ` [dpdk-stable] [PATCH v3 3/3] " Gavin Hu
2018-09-26  9:29       ` Gavin Hu (Arm Technology China)
2018-09-26 10:06         ` Justin He
2018-09-29  7:19           ` [dpdk-stable] [dpdk-dev] " Stephen Hemminger
2018-09-29 10:59       ` [dpdk-stable] " Jerin Jacob
2018-09-26  9:29     ` [dpdk-stable] [PATCH v3 1/3] ring: read tail using atomic load Gavin Hu (Arm Technology China)
2018-09-26 10:09       ` Justin He
2018-09-29 10:48     ` Jerin Jacob
2018-10-05  0:47       ` Gavin Hu (Arm Technology China)
2018-10-05  8:21         ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2018-10-05 11:15           ` Ola Liljedahl
2018-10-05 11:36             ` Ola Liljedahl
2018-10-05 13:44               ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2018-10-05 14:21                 ` Ola Liljedahl
2018-10-05 15:11                 ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2018-10-05 17:07                   ` Jerin Jacob
2018-10-05 18:05                     ` Ola Liljedahl
2018-10-05 20:06                       ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2018-10-05 20:17                         ` Ola Liljedahl
2018-10-05 20:29                           ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2018-10-05 20:34                             ` Ola Liljedahl
2018-10-06  7:41                               ` Jerin Jacob
2018-10-06 19:44                                 ` Ola Liljedahl
2018-10-06 19:59                                   ` Ola Liljedahl
2018-10-07  4:02                                   ` Jerin Jacob
2018-10-07 20:11                                     ` Ola Liljedahl
2018-10-07 20:44                                     ` Ola Liljedahl
2018-10-08  6:06                                       ` Jerin Jacob
2018-10-08  9:22                                         ` Ola Liljedahl
2018-10-08 10:00                                           ` Jerin Jacob
2018-10-08 10:25                                             ` Ola Liljedahl
2018-10-08 10:33                                               ` Gavin Hu (Arm Technology China)
2018-10-08 10:39                                                 ` Ola Liljedahl
2018-10-08 10:41                                                   ` Gavin Hu (Arm Technology China)
2018-10-08 10:49                                                 ` Jerin Jacob
2018-10-10  6:28                                                   ` Gavin Hu (Arm Technology China)
2018-10-10 19:26                                                     ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2018-10-08 10:46                                               ` Jerin Jacob
2018-10-08 11:21                                                 ` Ola Liljedahl
2018-10-08 11:50                                                   ` Jerin Jacob
2018-10-08 11:59                                                     ` Ola Liljedahl
2018-10-08 12:05                                                       ` Jerin Jacob
2018-10-08 12:20                                                         ` [dpdk-stable] [dpdk-dev] " Jerin Jacob
2018-10-08 12:30                                                           ` Ola Liljedahl
2018-10-09  8:53                                                             ` Olivier Matz
2018-10-09  3:16                                             ` [dpdk-stable] " Honnappa Nagarahalli
2018-10-08 14:43                                           ` [dpdk-stable] [dpdk-dev] " Bruce Richardson
2018-10-08 14:46                                             ` Ola Liljedahl
2018-10-08 15:45                                               ` Ola Liljedahl
2018-10-08  5:27                               ` [dpdk-stable] " Honnappa Nagarahalli
2018-10-08 10:01                                 ` Ola Liljedahl
2018-10-27 14:17     ` Thomas Monjalon

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