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From: "Wiles, Keith" <keith.wiles@intel.com>
To: Thomas Monjalon <thomas.monjalon@6wind.com>,
	"Richardson, Bruce" <bruce.richardson@intel.com>
Cc: Christian Ehrhardt <christian.ehrhardt@canonical.com>,
	Panu Matilainen <pmatilai@redhat.com>,
	"dev@dpdk.org" <dev@dpdk.org>,
	"Yigit, Ferruh" <ferruh.yigit@intel.com>,
	"olivier.matz@6wind.com" <olivier.matz@6wind.com>
Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH] mk: generate internal library dependencies from DEPDIRS-y automatically
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2016 14:40:13 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <BC751FE2-5450-4311-AF92-C8F42229A52B@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4901376.7OB1d4j3hA@xps13>

On 6/7/16, 9:19 AM, "dev on behalf of Thomas Monjalon" <dev-bounces@dpdk.org on behalf of thomas.monjalon@6wind.com> wrote:

>2016-06-07 15:07, Bruce Richardson:
>> On Tue, Jun 07, 2016 at 03:00:45PM +0200, Thomas Monjalon wrote:
>> > 2016-06-07 14:36, Christian Ehrhardt:
>> > > But I still struggle to see how to fix the circular dependency between
>> > > librte_eal and librte_mempool.
>> > 
>> > Why is there a circular dependency?
>> > Only because of logs using mempool?
>> > 
>> > > Maybe now is a time to look at this part of the original threads again to
>> > > eventually get apps less overlinked?
>> > > => http://www.dpdk.org/ml/archives/dev/2016-May/039441.html
>> > > My naive suggestions in generalized form can be found there (no answer yet):
>> > > =>
>> > > http://stackoverflow.com/questions/37351699/how-to-create-both-so-files-for-two-circular-depending-libraries
>> > 
>> > I would prefer removing the circular dependency.
>> > Maybe we can rewrite the code to not use mempool or move it outside of EAL.
>> 
>> Or else we can take the attitude that the mempools and the rings are just a core
>> part of DPDK and move them and the EAL into a dpdk_core library at link time.
>> Having the code separate in the git tree is good, but I'm not sure having
>> the resulting object files being in separate .a/.so files is particularly useful.
>> I can't see someone wanting to use one without the other.
>
>EAL could be used as an abstraction layer on top of systems and platforms.
>And I think keeping things separated and layered help to maintain a design
>easy to understand.

One of the other areas I see as an issue when building DPDK is the headers are only linked into place as the makefile is executed causing a dependency on build order. If you have a circular dependency on building libs or core code we have to link directly. Would this problem be helped if we had a two pass type build system, one to link the headers and then build the libraries?
>




  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-06-07 14:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-06-07 10:01 Panu Matilainen
2016-06-07 12:36 ` Christian Ehrhardt
2016-06-07 13:00   ` Thomas Monjalon
2016-06-07 14:07     ` Bruce Richardson
2016-06-07 14:19       ` Thomas Monjalon
2016-06-07 14:37         ` Bruce Richardson
2016-06-07 14:40         ` Wiles, Keith [this message]
2016-06-08 12:34           ` Olivier Matz
2016-06-08 13:38             ` Thomas Monjalon
2016-06-09  9:40   ` Thomas Monjalon

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