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From: Rongwei Liu <rongweil@nvidia.com>
To: Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org>
Cc: Matan Azrad <matan@nvidia.com>,
	Slava Ovsiienko <viacheslavo@nvidia.com>,
	 Ori Kam <orika@nvidia.com>,
	"NBU-Contact-Thomas Monjalon (EXTERNAL)" <thomas@monjalon.net>,
	Ferruh Yigit <ferruh.yigit@amd.com>,
	Andrew Rybchenko <andrew.rybchenko@oktetlabs.ru>,
	"dev@dpdk.org" <dev@dpdk.org>,
	Raslan Darawsheh <rasland@nvidia.com>
Subject: RE: [RFC 2/2] ethdev: add API to set process to primary or secondary
Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2022 03:47:42 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <BN9PR12MB5273616F42E6FA55BC32B282AB1B9@BN9PR12MB5273.namprd12.prod.outlook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20221205080801.52030df8@hermes.local>

Hi

BR
Rongwei

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 6, 2022 00:08
> To: Rongwei Liu <rongweil@nvidia.com>
> Cc: Matan Azrad <matan@nvidia.com>; Slava Ovsiienko
> <viacheslavo@nvidia.com>; Ori Kam <orika@nvidia.com>; NBU-Contact-
> Thomas Monjalon (EXTERNAL) <thomas@monjalon.net>; Ferruh Yigit
> <ferruh.yigit@amd.com>; Andrew Rybchenko
> <andrew.rybchenko@oktetlabs.ru>; dev@dpdk.org; Raslan Darawsheh
> <rasland@nvidia.com>
> Subject: Re: [RFC 2/2] ethdev: add API to set process to primary or secondary
> 
> External email: Use caution opening links or attachments
> 
> 
> On Fri, 2 Dec 2022 03:27:38 +0000
> Rongwei Liu <rongweil@nvidia.com> wrote:
> 
> > >
> > > The state of the devices and the system is really unstable if this
> > > fails. There is no rollback here.
> > >
> > Assume application is calling rte_eth_process_set_primary(false);
> > Once failed, call all preceding successful ports as
> > rte_eth_process_set_primary(true);
> > What do you think?
> > > I think this should have a PMD capability flag so that application
> > > can check that device supports doing this. And it would have to be
> > > opt-in so that existing devices would always fail.
> > If device doesn't support it, it can set the ethdev callback to NULL or return
> failure for all devices.
> > Then the devices' state will be consistent.
> 
> 
> Assume there are two DPDK ports.
> If the application tries to change roles and one of the devices does not support
> the change over, then that error is fatal. The first device has changed state
> already, and the second doesn't allow it.
> 
If my understanding is correct, you are saying one application to probe two PMD vendors. This is difficult to handle. 
> This needs to be a capability flag for the device, and would need an additional
> flag in the device documentation as well.
> 
For multiple vendors simultaneously probing. Capability flag is a must. But no need for single vendor, right?
> I bet many devices do regular malloc or mmap in the primary process and that
> is not going to work with this change.
Sorry, looks like I mis-lead you. The words "Primary/Secondary" in this update have no relationship with current PRIMARY/SECDONARY definition.
Doesn't focus on the resource ownership.
In this update: Primary application' offload rules are effective immediately. Secondary' rules are in queue which will be effective if primary application exits or primary application doesn't insert any rule.
Maybe we can call it as "active/standby" or "main/standby" or "active/backup"?  Do you have naming suggestion?  

  reply	other threads:[~2022-12-06  3:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-12-01  8:20 [RFC 0/2] " Rongwei Liu
2022-12-01  8:20 ` [RFC 1/2] ethdev: add group description Rongwei Liu
2022-12-01  8:20 ` [RFC 2/2] ethdev: add API to set process to primary or secondary Rongwei Liu
2022-12-01 15:10   ` Stephen Hemminger
2022-12-02  3:27     ` Rongwei Liu
2022-12-05 16:08       ` Stephen Hemminger
2022-12-06  3:47         ` Rongwei Liu [this message]
2022-12-06  5:54           ` Stephen Hemminger
2022-12-21  9:00             ` [RFC v3 0/2] add API to set process to active or standby Rongwei Liu
2022-12-21  9:00               ` [RFC v3 1/2] ethdev: add group description Rongwei Liu
2023-01-18 15:44                 ` [PATCH v4 0/3] add API for live migration Rongwei Liu
2023-01-18 15:44                   ` [PATCH v4 1/3] ethdev: add flow rule group description Rongwei Liu
2023-01-31 11:53                     ` Ori Kam
2023-02-06 12:15                       ` Rongwei Liu
2023-02-07  2:57                     ` [PATCH v5] " Rongwei Liu
2023-02-08 20:28                       ` Ferruh Yigit
2023-02-09  2:06                         ` Rongwei Liu
2023-02-09  7:32                         ` [PATCH v6] " Rongwei Liu
2023-02-09  8:01                           ` Ori Kam
2023-02-09 11:26                             ` Ferruh Yigit
2023-01-18 15:44                   ` [PATCH v4 2/3] ethdev: add standby state for live migration Rongwei Liu
2023-01-31 13:50                     ` Ori Kam
2023-01-31 18:14                     ` Jerin Jacob
2023-01-31 22:55                       ` Thomas Monjalon
2023-02-01  7:32                         ` Andrew Rybchenko
2023-02-01  8:31                           ` Thomas Monjalon
2023-02-01  8:40                           ` Jerin Jacob
2023-02-01  8:46                             ` Thomas Monjalon
2023-02-02 10:23                               ` Rongwei Liu
2023-02-01  7:52                     ` Andrew Rybchenko
2023-02-01  8:27                       ` Thomas Monjalon
2023-02-01  8:40                         ` Andrew Rybchenko
2023-01-18 15:44                   ` [PATCH v4 3/3] ethdev: add standby flags " Rongwei Liu
2023-01-23 13:20                     ` Jerin Jacob
2023-01-30  2:47                       ` Rongwei Liu
2023-01-30 17:10                         ` Jerin Jacob
2023-01-31  2:53                           ` Rongwei Liu
2023-01-31  8:45                             ` Jerin Jacob
2023-01-31  9:01                               ` Rongwei Liu
2023-01-31 14:37                                 ` Jerin Jacob
2023-01-31 14:45                                   ` Ori Kam
2023-01-31 17:50                                     ` Thomas Monjalon
2023-01-31 18:10                                       ` Jerin Jacob
2022-12-21  9:00               ` [RFC v3 2/2] ethdev: add API to set process to active or standby Rongwei Liu
2022-12-21  9:12                 ` Jerin Jacob
2022-12-21  9:32                   ` Rongwei Liu
2022-12-21 10:59                     ` Jerin Jacob
2022-12-21 12:05                       ` Rongwei Liu
2022-12-21 12:44                         ` Jerin Jacob
2022-12-21 12:50                           ` Rongwei Liu
2022-12-21 13:12                             ` Jerin Jacob
2022-12-21 14:33                               ` Rongwei Liu
2022-12-26 16:44                                 ` Ori Kam
2023-01-15 22:46                                   ` Thomas Monjalon

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