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From: John Ousterhout <ouster@cs.stanford.edu>
To: Don Provan <dprovan@bivio.net>
Cc: Thomas Monjalon <thomas.monjalon@6wind.com>,
	"dev@dpdk.org" <dev@dpdk.org>
Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2] log: respect rte_openlog_stream calls before rte_eal_init
Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2016 17:22:14 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAGXJAmzJEBQVL4vpf8aHJY70bidNdZBDtYx0PmkS3qGhQasUDg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <MWHPR01MB267138D3B2A38A9D7894FED9A0DA0@MWHPR01MB2671.prod.exchangelabs.com>

Don's argument for stderr over stdout makes sense to me. Does anyone else
disagree?

-John-

On Tue, Oct 11, 2016 at 3:16 PM, Don Provan <dprovan@bivio.net> wrote:

> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: John Ousterhout [mailto:ouster@cs.stanford.edu]
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2016 9:30 AM
> > To: Thomas Monjalon <thomas.monjalon@6wind.com>
> > Cc: dev@dpdk.org
> > Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2] log: respect rte_openlog_stream calls
> > before rte_eal_init
> >
> > On Tue, Oct 11, 2016 at 1:08 AM, Thomas Monjalon
> > <thomas.monjalon@6wind.com>
> > wrote:
> > > I don't know either.
> > > What is best between stdout and stderr for logs?
> >
> > I would guess that stdout makes more sense, since most log entries
> describe
> > normal operation, not errors. I'm happy to make these consistent, but
> this
> > would introduce a behavior change for BSD (which currently uses stderr);
> > would that be considered antisocial?
>
> I've never seen a pronouncement or anything, but as a linux programmer,
> my attitude is that stdout should be the output the application is
> producing
> when carrying out its function. Debugging output isn't part of what the
> application is trying to accomplish, so it should be sent to stderr where
> it
> can be segregated from the functional output when needed.
> -don
> dprovan@bivio.net
>
>

  reply	other threads:[~2016-10-12  0:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-09-28 20:42 [dpdk-dev] [PATCH] " John Ousterhout
2016-09-30 15:01 ` Thomas Monjalon
2016-10-10 22:39 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2] " John Ousterhout
2016-10-11  8:08   ` Thomas Monjalon
2016-10-11 16:30     ` John Ousterhout
2016-10-11 20:30       ` Thomas Monjalon
2016-10-11 21:46         ` John Ousterhout
2016-10-12  7:09           ` Thomas Monjalon
2016-10-11 22:16       ` Don Provan
2016-10-12  0:22         ` John Ousterhout [this message]
2016-10-12 19:29 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3] " John Ousterhout
2016-10-12 19:38 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4] " John Ousterhout
2016-10-12 19:47   ` Thomas Monjalon
2016-10-12 21:17     ` John Ousterhout
2016-10-13 20:03   ` Thomas Monjalon

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