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From: Jerin Jacob <jerinjacobk@gmail.com>
To: Rongwei Liu <rongweil@nvidia.com>
Cc: Matan Azrad <matan@nvidia.com>,
	Slava Ovsiienko <viacheslavo@nvidia.com>,
	Ori Kam <orika@nvidia.com>,
	 "NBU-Contact-Thomas Monjalon (EXTERNAL)" <thomas@monjalon.net>,
	Ferruh Yigit <ferruh.yigit@amd.com>,
	 Andrew Rybchenko <andrew.rybchenko@oktetlabs.ru>,
	"dev@dpdk.org" <dev@dpdk.org>,
	Raslan Darawsheh <rasland@nvidia.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC v3 2/2] ethdev: add API to set process to active or standby
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2022 16:29:54 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CALBAE1Npn_zym0HWqEG9XbcNnqz0uR=xM57v2ePxyYfcPD3Zcg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <BN9PR12MB5273BC5F50F51A82B24DEC4FABEB9@BN9PR12MB5273.namprd12.prod.outlook.com>

On Wed, Dec 21, 2022 at 3:02 PM Rongwei Liu <rongweil@nvidia.com> wrote:
>
> HI Jerin:
>

Hi Rongwei

> BR
> Rongwei
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jerin Jacob <jerinjacobk@gmail.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2022 17:13
> > To: Rongwei Liu <rongweil@nvidia.com>
> > Cc: Matan Azrad <matan@nvidia.com>; Slava Ovsiienko
> > <viacheslavo@nvidia.com>; Ori Kam <orika@nvidia.com>; NBU-Contact-
> > Thomas Monjalon (EXTERNAL) <thomas@monjalon.net>; Ferruh Yigit
> > <ferruh.yigit@amd.com>; Andrew Rybchenko
> > <andrew.rybchenko@oktetlabs.ru>; dev@dpdk.org; Raslan Darawsheh
> > <rasland@nvidia.com>
> > Subject: Re: [RFC v3 2/2] ethdev: add API to set process to active or standby
> >
> > External email: Use caution opening links or attachments
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Dec 21, 2022 at 2:31 PM Rongwei Liu <rongweil@nvidia.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Users may want to change the DPDK process to different versions
> >
> > Different version of DPDK? If there is any ABI change how to support this?
> >
> There is a new member which was introduced into rte_eth_dev_info but it shouldn’t be ABI breaking since using reserved fields.

That is just for rte_eth_dev_info. What about the ABI change in
different ethdev structure and rte_flow structures across different
DPDK ABI versions.

> > > such as hot upgrade.
> > > There is a strong requirement to simplify the logic and shorten the
> > > traffic downtime as much as possible.
> > >
> > > This update introduces new rte_eth process role definitions: active or
> > > standby.
> > >
> > > The active role means rules are programmed to HW immediately, and no
> >
> > Why it has to be specific only to rte_flow rule? If it spedieic to rte_flow, why it
> > is in rte_eth_process_ name space?
> For now, this design focuses on the flow rule offloading and traffic redirection.
> When switching process version, it' important to make sure which application receives and handles the traffic.

Changing the DPDK version runtime is just beyond rte_flow driver.

> The changing should be effective across all probing eth devices, that' why it was put under rte_eth_process_ (for all rte_eth_dev) name space.
> >
> > Also, if we are moving the standby, What about the rule whose ABI is changed
> > between versions?
>
> Like the comments mentioned: " Before role transition, all the rules set by the active process should be flushed first. "

What happens to rte_flow flow handles for existing ones  which is
created with version X?
Also What if new version Y has ABI change in rte_flow_pattern and
rte_flow_action structure?

For me, If DPDK version change is needed, simply reload the
application. This API will soon bloat, and it will be a mess if to
start handling
Different DPDK version which is not ABI compatible at all.




> > > behavior changed. This is the default state.
> > > The standby role means rules are queued in the HW. If no active roles
> > > alive or back to active, the rules are effective immediately.
> > >
> > > Signed-off-by: Rongwei Liu <rongweil@nvidia.com>

  reply	other threads:[~2022-12-21 11:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-12-01  8:20 [RFC 0/2] add API to set process to primary or secondary Rongwei Liu
2022-12-01  8:20 ` [RFC 1/2] ethdev: add group description Rongwei Liu
2022-12-01  8:20 ` [RFC 2/2] ethdev: add API to set process to primary or secondary Rongwei Liu
2022-12-01 15:10   ` Stephen Hemminger
2022-12-02  3:27     ` Rongwei Liu
2022-12-05 16:08       ` Stephen Hemminger
2022-12-06  3:47         ` Rongwei Liu
2022-12-06  5:54           ` Stephen Hemminger
2022-12-21  9:00             ` [RFC v3 0/2] add API to set process to active or standby Rongwei Liu
2022-12-21  9:00               ` [RFC v3 1/2] ethdev: add group description Rongwei Liu
2023-01-18 15:44                 ` [PATCH v4 0/3] add API for live migration Rongwei Liu
2023-01-18 15:44                   ` [PATCH v4 1/3] ethdev: add flow rule group description Rongwei Liu
2023-01-31 11:53                     ` Ori Kam
2023-02-06 12:15                       ` Rongwei Liu
2023-02-07  2:57                     ` [PATCH v5] " Rongwei Liu
2023-02-08 20:28                       ` Ferruh Yigit
2023-02-09  2:06                         ` Rongwei Liu
2023-02-09  7:32                         ` [PATCH v6] " Rongwei Liu
2023-02-09  8:01                           ` Ori Kam
2023-02-09 11:26                             ` Ferruh Yigit
2023-01-18 15:44                   ` [PATCH v4 2/3] ethdev: add standby state for live migration Rongwei Liu
2023-01-31 13:50                     ` Ori Kam
2023-01-31 18:14                     ` Jerin Jacob
2023-01-31 22:55                       ` Thomas Monjalon
2023-02-01  7:32                         ` Andrew Rybchenko
2023-02-01  8:31                           ` Thomas Monjalon
2023-02-01  8:40                           ` Jerin Jacob
2023-02-01  8:46                             ` Thomas Monjalon
2023-02-02 10:23                               ` Rongwei Liu
2023-02-01  7:52                     ` Andrew Rybchenko
2023-02-01  8:27                       ` Thomas Monjalon
2023-02-01  8:40                         ` Andrew Rybchenko
2023-01-18 15:44                   ` [PATCH v4 3/3] ethdev: add standby flags " Rongwei Liu
2023-01-23 13:20                     ` Jerin Jacob
2023-01-30  2:47                       ` Rongwei Liu
2023-01-30 17:10                         ` Jerin Jacob
2023-01-31  2:53                           ` Rongwei Liu
2023-01-31  8:45                             ` Jerin Jacob
2023-01-31  9:01                               ` Rongwei Liu
2023-01-31 14:37                                 ` Jerin Jacob
2023-01-31 14:45                                   ` Ori Kam
2023-01-31 17:50                                     ` Thomas Monjalon
2023-01-31 18:10                                       ` Jerin Jacob
2022-12-21  9:00               ` [RFC v3 2/2] ethdev: add API to set process to active or standby Rongwei Liu
2022-12-21  9:12                 ` Jerin Jacob
2022-12-21  9:32                   ` Rongwei Liu
2022-12-21 10:59                     ` Jerin Jacob [this message]
2022-12-21 12:05                       ` Rongwei Liu
2022-12-21 12:44                         ` Jerin Jacob
2022-12-21 12:50                           ` Rongwei Liu
2022-12-21 13:12                             ` Jerin Jacob
2022-12-21 14:33                               ` Rongwei Liu
2022-12-26 16:44                                 ` Ori Kam
2023-01-15 22:46                                   ` Thomas Monjalon

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