From: "Andrew Harvey (agh)" <agh@cisco.com>
To: Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org>
Cc: "dev@dpdk.org" <dev@dpdk.org>,
"Wang, Liang-min" <liang-min.wang@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 2/2] ethtool: add new library to provide ethtool-alike APIs
Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2015 22:10:09 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <D195DB8A.340EE%agh@cisco.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150604075810.0c087b21@urahara>
On 6/4/15, 7:58 AM, "Stephen Hemminger" <stephen@networkplumber.org> wrote:
>On Wed, 3 Jun 2015 02:09:39 +0000
>"Andrew Harvey (agh)" <agh@cisco.com> wrote:
>
>> I believe that their is value in this interface for software stacks not
>> based on Linux being moved toward DPDK that need simple operations like
>> getting the mac address. Some of these stacks have a dearth of
>>resources
>> available and dedicating a core/thread to KNI to get/set a mac address
>> is considered excessive. There are also issues with 32/64 bit kernel
>> integration
>> using KNI. If the ethtool interface is not the correct interface then
>> please help me
>> understand what should/could have been used. If ethtool is considered
>>'old
>> and clunky¹
>> Stephen's and your input would be valuable in designing another
>>interface
>> with
>> similar properties. The use-case is pretty simple and there is no plans
>> for moving
>> anything back into the kernel on the contrary its the complete opposite.
>>
>> ‹ Andy
>
>We have DPDK API's to do this, and any added wrappers make it bigger.
>I don't see why calling your ethtool API is better than calling
>rte_eth* API.
>
>If there is a missing functionality in the rte_ethXXX api's for an
>application then add that. For example: rte_eth_mac_addr_get()
I am getting somewhat confused by your latest comments. Your first email
(referenced below) looked really positive and I found your suggestions
useful. Your latest post appears to contradict this and now the interface
was there all the time. The wrapper façade provided by the ethtool
library provide a clean separation of concerns and will allow people to
migrate from not only KNI but in our case from a legacy system. If a
software stack has requirements to work with multiple IO abstractions
then the ethtool approach is attractive. I would speculate that many
other stacks moving towards dpdk will have similar issues.
Summarizing, for our use-cases the ethtool interface facilitated our
adoption to dpdk while allowing us to support our legacy IO abstractions.
— Andy
http://dpdk.org/ml/archives/dev/2015-May/018408.html (original email)
http://dpdk.org/ml/archives/dev/2014-June/003005.html (ethtool request)
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-06-04 22:10 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-05-29 19:26 [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 0/2] User-space Ethtool Liang-Min Larry Wang
2015-05-29 19:26 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 1/2] ethdev: add api to set default mac address Liang-Min Larry Wang
2015-06-02 10:52 ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2015-06-02 12:23 ` Thomas Monjalon
2015-06-02 14:51 ` Stephen Hemminger
2015-06-02 15:07 ` Wang, Liang-min
2015-06-02 12:23 ` Wang, Liang-min
2015-06-02 13:10 ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2015-05-29 19:26 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 2/2] ethtool: add new library to provide ethtool-alike APIs Liang-Min Larry Wang
2015-06-02 12:38 ` Thomas Monjalon
2015-06-02 13:15 ` Wang, Liang-min
2015-06-02 14:32 ` Thomas Monjalon
2015-06-02 15:47 ` Wang, Liang-min
2015-06-02 16:02 ` Thomas Monjalon
2015-06-02 17:06 ` Wang, Liang-min
2015-06-02 20:37 ` Thomas Monjalon
2015-06-02 20:56 ` Wang, Liang-min
2015-06-03 1:00 ` David Harton (dharton)
2015-06-03 2:09 ` Andrew Harvey (agh)
2015-06-04 14:25 ` O'Driscoll, Tim
2015-06-04 14:58 ` Stephen Hemminger
2015-06-04 22:10 ` Andrew Harvey (agh) [this message]
2015-06-05 10:46 ` Thomas Monjalon
2015-06-05 11:25 ` Wang, Liang-min
2015-06-05 12:47 ` Bruce Richardson
2015-06-05 17:24 ` Andrew Harvey (agh)
2015-06-05 21:03 ` Thomas Monjalon
2015-06-05 13:40 ` Thomas Monjalon
2015-06-05 14:20 ` Wang, Liang-min
2015-06-05 16:07 ` Andrew Harvey (agh)
2015-06-05 20:57 ` Thomas Monjalon
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2015-05-30 0:37 [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 0/2] User-space Ethtool Liang-Min Larry Wang
2015-05-30 0:37 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 2/2] ethtool: add new library to provide ethtool-alike APIs Liang-Min Larry Wang
2015-05-30 15:48 ` Stephen Hemminger
2015-05-30 16:16 ` Wang, Liang-min
2015-05-30 19:26 ` Stephen Hemminger
2015-05-30 19:40 ` Wang, Liang-min
2015-05-31 16:48 ` Stephen Hemminger
2015-05-31 17:30 ` Wang, Liang-min
2015-05-31 18:31 ` Wang, Liang-min
2015-06-01 12:42 ` David Harton (dharton)
2015-05-29 13:15 [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 0/2] User-space Ethtool Liang-Min Larry Wang
2015-05-29 13:15 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 2/2] ethtool: add new library to provide ethtool-alike APIs Liang-Min Larry Wang
2015-05-29 15:22 ` Stephen Hemminger
2015-05-29 18:17 ` Wang, Liang-min
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